What Happened to Bam Who Ended in a Psych Ward?

[Bill Bauer]

The other groups like Glynis, Bill Bauer, Michael Leigh, Fishbone ...
they provide answers and supports.

Thank you for your kind words. I also get to learn about tinnitus (what causes spikes, what happens to a spike as time goes on, etc.)

 

[Bill Bauer]

the newer tinnitus sufferers realize that habituation is more likely than a descent into madness.

Often it depends on how easy their tinnitus is to ignore, and whether or not it tends to fade over time.

 

[Deamon22]

There has to be a balance though, and I hope the newer tinnitus sufferers realize that habituation is more likely than a descent into madness. Just have to stay strong.

And yes I feel awful for severe tinnitus sufferers...their struggles are difficult as it is.

Sure, but I would say most people with mild tinnitus habituate automatically without doing much. But they need to know what to do to not make things worse. And unfortunately I think that works only if they see how bad this can get.

It breaks my heart that people on this forum need to have severe tinnitus to show the rest what their mild tinnitus could turn into if they are not careful.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

they provide answers and supports.

There are also many others here who spend a lot of time doing medical research and sharing thoughts. Some also help by use of PM. Many need compassion and others are in desperate need of physical biology guidance and thoughts.

 

[glynis]

Thank you @robHing.

Let's hope Bam is getting the support he needs and knows we are all here for him should he return to support him endlessly.

love glynis x

 

[Vicki14]

I think he had killed himself.

I truly hope this is not the case!!!! I've thought about @Bam a lot and truly hope he's had the help he so needs x

 

[jimH]

@Bam is one of several people that I've been concerned about. Another is @dayl. Has anyone heard privately from him? He began this thread in March of 2016. His last activity was April 2016.


https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/end-of-my-rope.14273/

 

[john paul]

The kind of tinnitus he was describing just made me feel so bad for him. I kinda feel like there is tinnitus and then there is Tinnitus. I honestly don't know how anyone can function when they have Tinnitus that they simply can not escape from, it is something which terrifies me.

@momo was another person who showed up who I felt really sad for, a young girl whole life ahead of her, one mistake with some headphones and thrown into this unthinkable hell.

 

[grate_biff]

@Bam is one of several people that I've been concerned about. Another is @dayl.

Or @monacco and @bill 112, the Irish guy.

In my opinion, Bam was not negative. He was rather hit hard and has the gift to put it down with words. I, for one, really appreciated and related to his posts.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Maybe his tinnitus abated.

Tinnitus (especially the loud kind) usually doesn't switch off overnight.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I think he had killed himself.

I take it back. Given the title of one of his last threads, he hasn't committed suicide, he got murdered by merciless T...

 

[dpdx]

The kind of tinnitus he was describing just made me feel so bad for him. I kinda feel like there is tinnitus and then there is Tinnitus. I honestly don't know how anyone can function when they have Tinnitus that they simply can not escape from, it is something which terrifies me.

@momo was another person who showed up who I felt really sad for, a young girl whole life ahead of her, one mistake with some headphones and thrown into this unthinkable hell.

Spot on. 2 hours at a concert can cost you your entire life

 

[robHing]

There are also many others here who spend a lot of time doing medical research and sharing thoughts. Some also help by use of PM. Many need compassion and others are in desperate need of physical biology guidance and thoughts.

You are absolutely correct.
I may have missed some others (including you)
who also have helped and supported T sufferers in TT forums.

 

[Marc22]

Hello everyone:

Glad to read that so many people are concerned about Bam. Wherever he is, we all wish him well.

Regarding the question of ''negativity'' that arises, especially when someone indicates suicidal thoughts. Well I think it is better to put up with this alleged ''negativity'' because someone' s support can be the difference between life and death sometimes. How many times have I heard someone say that this or that person or organisation saved my life. Someone even told me I saved her life one night (if I remember correctly)!

Then again, too much negativity can be overwhelming for some and sink them more if they are too weak at some point. That can happen to me sometimes so I have to be careful. I remember reading a psychotherapeutic monograph, based on the work of one Karen Horney, that explained that one has to be strong enough first to help the troubled, or something to that effect.

Luckily I have little tinnitus. You might be asking then: why am I here? Well I have hyperacusis, and while I post at the hyperacusis section most often, I sometimes go to this tinnitus section to see what is going on, and that situation with Bam really hit me.

When I first read about Bam I was in transition between apartments, using computers at the University of Montreal, while using a dorm room there off season. Now I have found a new apartment, and let me tell you that doing that was NOT easy with hyperacusis. I had been living with my mother, she had to be placed in a nursing where she now languishes with myriad other very messed up older people. I had to sell or give away or recycle a lifetime's accumulation of clothes, antiques, cutlery etc... which necessitated zillions of calls. All that work got done but I could not find an apartment until Aug 1 , and that is just by luck. I live on a quite street in a big city which is very fortunate, considering my low income. Unfortunately, there is always the problem of lawnmowers, planes overhead every 2 minutes sometimes etc.. a new roommate to adapt to who luckily is sensitive to my ear problem, but who also has a form of schizophrenia. Unfortunately, after a few months of pretty moderate hyperacusis, I have gotten worse since moving into that apartment, I think due to not protecting enough against the planes. So I have a whole new adaptation to make to go back to moderate hyperacusis. Of course, I am worried that I will stay bad, and have to move again. I asked so many questions about the noise level around this apartment, but not all pertinent questions I now see.But I think I would have taken it anyways, knowing what I do now, because I could not continue moving around from one hotel to another, which are expensive, even if low quality. So, yes, the life of a person with hyperacusis for 22 years. No joke sometimes!

Marco

 

[85dB T]

I gut it up and move on. There are worse things in life. We all know someone with cancer, heart disease, maybe MS or Parkinson's, etc. etc. This condition doesn't even compare.

Tex, I shared this exact sentiment right up to the point of losing a successful business of 25 years due to severe tinnitus causing full blown psychosis. I never go to doctors except for stitching my flesh in which I decline local anesthesia.

Part of what drove me crazy was being told to habituate, ignore it and that it is no big deal. I bought into this and drove myself all the way to doing things I don't want to publicize other than telling you I was taken away by force and detained twelve days in a mental facility, three days is typical. Cost me over 10k for that vacation which I didn't ask for.

 

[Wolfears]

Bottom line is, I don't ever want anyone to think I could be as down and out about this condition as some that post here. Is this condition horrible?-Yes! Am I like some of the ones on here that "can't take it anymore?" -- NO
I gut it up and move on. There are worse things in life.

That's great... I'm glad your tinnitus is mild and not the debilitating kind... because if it was, you would never write that.

Imagine if you had high pitched tinnitus at 5x your current volume.. this is what some members here have to deal with and it is not something you can just "move on" from

 

[Agrajag364]

Chronic pain and locked-in syndrome. Nothing else comes to my mind.

Those people have an end to their suffering in sight. Tinnitus can last decades, with no hope for relief. Those people can momentarily forget about their suffering when they lie in bed at night - not so for T sufferers.

You are right - since one is being tortured every single waking moment (unlike most of the other conditions, possibly even including locked-in syndrome), it can't compare to anything else out there. If one could be burned alive for decades to come, that would be comparable to tinnitus (and not comparable to most other conditions out there). I am channeling my inner @Bam now...

@Bill Bauer I had two years of chronic pain and it WAS way easier than tinnitus. Definitely. But all may depend on the level of pain or the loudness of tinnitus or the personal dislikes of the person who has it eg I was always quite sensitive to sound. I doubt there are many worse conditions than locked in syndrome

Has yours got louder lately?

 

[Agrajag364]

That's great... I'm glad your tinnitus is mild and not the debilitating kind... because if it was, you would never write that.

Imagine if you had high pitched tinnitus at 5x your current volume.. this is what some members here have to deal with and it is not something you can just "move on" from

Is high pitched tinnitus considered to be harder to deal with? Mine is super high-pitched

 

[john paul]

Is high pitched tinnitus considered to be harder to deal with? Mine is super high-pitched

It tends to always be high pitched especially at first. Id say its harder to deal with though the higher the pitch.

 

[Wolfears]

Is high pitched tinnitus considered to be harder to deal with? Mine is super high-pitched

There is a reason why most alarms are high pitched...it is hard for your brain to ignore it and puts it into alert mode.

 

[Agrajag364]

There is a reason why most alarms are high pitched...it is hard for your brain to ignore it and puts it into alert mode.

That makes sense. I don't feel like quite such a wimp now! But who knows, we can never know what others experience. When people I know IRL say to me oh yes I have tinnitus and I can hear it over everything and it doesn't bother me I still think WTAF? And what's wrong with me?

 

[Agrajag364]

Anyway this thread was supposed to be about @Bam . Still thinking of him. Such a vivid writer and only 8 months with tinnitus. Said his quality of life had been great before it hit. I hope he's still around and will wait to see if the volume reduces as least

 

[Tex]

That's great... I'm glad your tinnitus is mild and not the debilitating kind... because if it was, you would never write that.

Imagine if you had high pitched tinnitus at 5x your current volume.. this is what some members here have to deal with and it is not something you can just "move on" from

My Tinnitus is far from mild and is most certainly debilitating. I couldn't get anything done today in the way of work it was so loud. It is piercing extremely loud for some reason today. I guess it is days like this that in desperation I check back on here just hoping to stumble onto some new therapy.

 

[Contrast]

I'm far from a newbie, but I log on less and less frequently because of the negativity. I don't even tell anyone that I know that has this condition about this forum. If anyone with this condition were to ask me if I'm aware of it, I'll simply say, "Yes but I hardly ever read it since there is no cure." I guess that will have be my excuse unless I think of something else.

Bottom line is, I don't ever want anyone to think I could be as down and out about this condition as some that post here. Is this condition horrible?-Yes! Am I like some of the ones on here that "can't take it anymore?" -- NO

I gut it up and move on. There are worse things in life. We all know someone with cancer, heart disease, maybe MS or Parkinson's, etc. etc. This condition doesn't even compare.

Still---I wish the best of luck to all of you in finding a way to cope!

cancer and heart disease put you out of your misery, and normies are rightfully so concerned about finding effective treatments for them. But hearing loss, tinnitus and noxacusis are ignored completely as they are not life threatening.

 

[kelpiemsp]

cancer and heart disease put you out of your misery, and normies are rightfully so concerned about finding effective treatments for them. But hearing loss, tinnitus and noxacusis are ignored completely as they are not life threatening.

I think it is the 'doubting Thomas' phenomenon. If T had had visible effects from treatment (assuming there was treatment lol) it could be marketed. Trust me, I work in cancer. It's sexy because it's easy to market. It's economically easy. Give me a few thousand and I can save a life. It sells to politicians, it sells to the CDC, and to the public. T is real. It just hasn't been marketed. Just look at breast cancer, it's nothing compared to lung cancer. Yet it gets 100x the funding. You want to know why? People like pink. It's easy to tell a story. And everyone blames lung cancer on smoking even if the majority are caused by radon.... sorry end rant.

 

[Tinker Bell]

I think it is the 'doubting Thomas' phenomenon. If T had had visible effects from treatment (assuming there was treatment lol) it could be marketed. Trust me, I work in cancer. It's sexy because it's easy to market. It's economically easy. Give me a few thousand and I can save a life. It sells to politicians, it sells to the CDC, and to the public. T is real. It just hasn't been marketed. Just look at breast cancer, it's nothing compared to lung cancer. Yet it gets 100x the funding. You want to know why? People like pink. It's easy to tell a story. And everyone blames lung cancer on smoking even if the majority are caused by radon.... sorry end rant.

Genuine question: is the number of breast cancer versus lung cancer cases part of the funding discrepancy?

I realize lung cancer is the second highest diagnosed cancer, with breast cancer being the leading cancer diagnosis. But I'm curious if lung cancer is the primary diagnosis or a secondary finding. For example, I know multiple people who had lung cancer but it was metastasized. Their original findings were predominantly breast cancer.

 

[kelpiemsp]

Genuine question: is the number of breast cancer versus lung cancer cases part of the funding discrepancy?

I realize lung cancer is the second highest diagnosed cancer, with breast cancer being the leading cancer diagnosis. But I'm curious if lung cancer is the primary diagnosis or a secondary finding. For example, I know multiple people who had lung cancer but it was metastasized. Their original findings were predominantly breast cancer.

I don't work with lung, so I can't say for sure. But with breast, it is almost always primary. You are right that often cancers metastasized to lung. We (in my field) generally refer to the primary cancer as the type, but obviously when published online or in a report they may well be using the more inflated number. Colorectal often finds its way to lungs as well.

 

[dpdx]

cancer and heart disease put you out of your misery, and normies are rightfully so concerned about finding effective treatments for them. But hearing loss, tinnitus and noxacusis are ignored completely as they are not life threatening.

I wish I had heart disease instead of severe t and severe h

 

[another sean]

I wish I had heart disease instead of severe t and severe h

I have anxiety which tricks me in thinking I have a heart condition and its scary af. You dont want that.

 

[Elfin]

I have anxiety which tricks me in thinking I have a heart condition and its scary af. You dont want that.

Anxiety is awful.

I have it and some of things it can make you worry about or feel like it truly awful. @another sean you got any treatment for it? I had CBT which helped understand it, but symptoms still persist.