- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
Why Do Some People Hate Bill Bauer?
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Member- May 17, 2017
- 909
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Ototoxic earwax drops, worsened by MDs (Muppet Doctors)
Well said.
However in my opinion, the duration of a persons tinnitus does not necessarily always correlate with the quality of their advice or knowledge (although usually this seems to be the case). They can still give irrational or negative advice. So I am not going to simply listen to someone because they have had this condition longer, well, in future I won't.
Shiwa
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Studies as early as 1967 have shown that hearing-loss is not caused by aging but by the racket of industrial civilization, yet this myth of aging is still perpetuated as noise is good for profit, and war, which is also good for profit along with illness.
The world is very and increasingly toxic.
However, tinnitus is not in my case caused by loud sound —my hearing is as acute as ever, my keeping away from damaging noise my being very sensitive— although infrasound from light be.
Namaste
The world is very and increasingly toxic.
However, tinnitus is not in my case caused by loud sound —my hearing is as acute as ever, my keeping away from damaging noise my being very sensitive— although infrasound from light be.
Namaste
Glynis was the first person I reached out to, she took me under her wing and pretty much saved my life. I am forever grateful and will never forget her for as long as I live.
@Bill Bauer, I finally had the guts to test the chipper. It peaked at 125db when limbs were going through, around 110 or so with it just running.
fishbone
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- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
- May 17, 2017
- 909
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Ototoxic earwax drops, worsened by MDs (Muppet Doctors)
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
Do you think being around that chipper is likely promoting your healing or is it increasing the chance that your T will eventually get louder?
It's not constant, but it's frequent for 10 hours a day. This is not normal everyday exposure for most people. It has most definitely affected my volume. If someone keeps exposing themselves to decibels like that on a regular basis then yeah, expect a increase.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
Hi @Michael Leigh
I just wanted to mention that I also love much classical music - mostly of the romantic period.
Tchkowsky - (Sy no 6)
Rachmaninov - (Sy no 2)
Elgar - (Enigma variations)
Elgar Cello Concerto (Jacqueline Du Pres) is divine!
Beethoven - (Sy no 7)
Brahms - Sibelius - Mahler - Bruckner - Brahms.
to name just a few.
My particular preference is for the Adagios, that "carry me off' "to a special place.
Jazzer x
@Jazzer
You have good taste in music. All the composers and musician, Jacqueline Du Pre, who was taken from us too soon were sublime. Whilst I'm not gifted to be able to play an instrument such as you, I do enjoy listening to music through my high quality Audio system. Therefore, I feel I'm close as I can get to actually being there and being at one with the musicians when listening to those pieces of work.
I am a deeply moved by Baroque music. Whether I'm listening to JS Bach, Handel or corelli I'm simply transported to another realm. The same happens when listening opera, particularly the arias and love the female soprano and mezzo soprano voice. Anne Sofie Von Otter is one of my favourite singers.
Michael
You have good taste in music. All the composers and musician, Jacqueline Du Pre, who was taken from us too soon were sublime. Whilst I'm not gifted to be able to play an instrument such as you, I do enjoy listening to music through my high quality Audio system. Therefore, I feel I'm close as I can get to actually being there and being at one with the musicians when listening to those pieces of work.
I am a deeply moved by Baroque music. Whether I'm listening to JS Bach, Handel or corelli I'm simply transported to another realm. The same happens when listening opera, particularly the arias and love the female soprano and mezzo soprano voice. Anne Sofie Von Otter is one of my favourite singers.
Michael
- Aug 29, 2015
- 7,069
- Tinnitus Since
- 2004
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Meniere's Disease
Hi Jake,
Thank you for your lovely kind words.
You did have a tough time and happy you reached out to me.....
Hope your doing better after your operation...
Love glynis x
Indeed we are @Jazzer and for this reason I admire and have a much respect for you. There are others like us here but alas not enough....
Take care
Michael
Anima
Member
- Mar 22, 2016
- 202
- Tinnitus Since
- Feb 2004
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise trauma/metronidazole+kanamycin
Hi! I'm very interested in Bill Bauer's opinion and I couldn't agree more about what he says concerning noise. I truly think that we all are constantly exposed to unnecessary noise, which could be easily avoided with a minimal effort on our part. Noise feeds tinnitus, even a long conversation on the phone (apparently harmless) can trigger a spike, not necessarily right after the talk, so we might not link both. Ear plugs in noisy environments and a low volume for TV and music might reduce spikes and even avoid a gradual aggravation of our condition. I'm convinced that, in our daily life, we don't do all we could about this matter because, unfortunately, we just underestimate it and we should not at all.
Best regards
Best regards
What system do you use to listen to music Michael?...Obviously not headphones! :-/ Also what kind of music?
On the liveaboard boat, I have a Pioneer Bluetooth car stereo driving 4 Panasonic car speakers. I suppose a narrow boat is just like a long car with no wheels really. I can play any tracks I like from my iPhone using Spotify via the Bluetooth.
My hearing isn't so great these days so there isn't much point in me investing too much on stereo systems. What about everyone else too?
- May 17, 2017
- 909
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Ototoxic earwax drops, worsened by MDs (Muppet Doctors)
Totally agree. In fact, today I woke up with a mild spike after yesterday being possibly the lowest T and H/reactivity I have had for a long long time. Almost zero (was bliss).
Anyway seeing it's a mild spike day (maybe due to the 2 secs of exposure to my neighbours car alarm lastnight), I know I need to be quite careful. I took my kids out for lunch and to the supermarket. No loud noises at all, yet I started to feel tension and fullness in my ears, with pain in my neck and jaw. This means my TTTS/ASD "thing" is beginning to get aggravated (meaning it can worsen into temporary conductive hearing loss, weird head whooshing and other things). So I popped in my earplugs and only removed them upon returning home. It had subsided - disaster averted.
Yet if I had followed the advice of some self proclaimed experts on this forum and not used ear protection, even for normal sounds, then I would now be in a world of pain.
Sorry for the long winded post.
HI @Bassplayer
Please don't get me talking about my HI-FI and music, for I am enthusiastic about them as I am about tinnitus perhaps more so, since I have been an Audiophile for many years.
I have two high quality audio systems and am a hifi purist to a fault. My first system comprises of Push-Pull 300b tube/valve amplifier driving ProAc D28 Speakers. These are connected by Chord Signature speaker cables. I use a Marantz SA11S3 CD player and Linn Sondek LP12 turntable. CD Interconnect cables are: Chord Indigo. I use Mains conditioners throughout. Unless mains electricity is cleaned it will impair the sound quality of the audio equipment and ultimately the music. Therefore, I use two Nordost Mains Quantum conditions. QX4 and QX2. I also use 3 Little Mean mains purifiers. All mains cables are screened and made by the Chord company. The room I listen in has been acoustically treated to get the best sound quality I can afford.
My second system is a Valve/tube Parallel Single-End Amplifier driving ProAc Tablette 8 Signature speakers. Connected with Chord Epic speaker cables. CD player is Marantz SA11S1. Turntable is: ClearAudio Emotion. Interconnect cables between CD player and Amplifier, are Chord Signature. Mains cables are made by the Chord company. I use two Little Mead mains purifiers and one Nordost Quantum QX4 mains conditioner.
My tastes in music are classical and varies quite a lot. Mozart and Haydn are my favourites from the classical period. However, I am particularly drawn to the Baroque period. JS Bach, Handel corelli are among my favourites . I love opera too especially arias sung by female voice soprano and mezzo soprano.
I am into American Jazz Fusion and like: Bob James, Lee Ritnour, Michael Franks, Joe Sample, Marcus Miller, Joyce Cooling, Diane Shuur, Jane Monheit.
As I said, please don't get me talking about HI-FI and music.
All the best
Michael
PS: I would be interested to know what type of music you play?
Wow, well you certainly have an obsession with HI FI. That's some very nice gear you have there Michael.
I like any music which I think is good really. It's very subjective. The only genres I struggle with is opera and country. I love most of the Russian composers like Prokofiev and Rachmaninov. Being brought up on classical music I got into all the prog bands like Genesis, Gentle Giant and Yes. I also got into metal bands like Judas Priest and Black Sabbath. So I suppose that's why I ended up liking progressive metal!
Our band plays stuff from 60s to current day. Beatles, Monkeys, Led Zep, Queen, Stevie Wonder, Elvis, Kinks, Muse, in fact around 140 songs in our set. This band (called Banned) has been going for about 12 years now. Keeps me out of trouble anyway! Available for weddings lol.
- May 11, 2016
- 1,184
- Tinnitus Since
- 2012
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Loud music/gigs probably
@Michael Leigh - Oops I just noticed I mentioned Brahms twice. (I'm old-ish.)
Substitute Nielsen (sym no 3 the Espansiva.)
2nd mov. Andante Pastoral with wordless voices.
Yes I do listen to some Baroque, but usually end up wondering if it's written 'by the yard.'
It sounds almost mathematical.
I guess I like what the pundits love to refer to, in derogatory terms, as 'the Big Tune,' or 'the Lollipops.'
Being a lover of the cello, I'm sure you know that wonderful put down, from conductor Sir Robert Beecham, to a lady cellist.
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to millions, and all you can do is sit there and scratch it!"
Basically that's enough whittering from me
.........I'm leaving,
Jazzer x
Please click on the link below
Michael
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html
It was a live performance Sam on youtube and don't remember the song. I am sure they are well accomplished artists and have quite a following but unfortunately this type of genre does nothing for me. I prefer more relaxing music which is soothing to my ears and auditory system. Classical, Opera and Jazz does this.
All the best
Michael
I hadn't heard of Sir Robert Beecham's remark @Jazzer and did wonder for a fleeting moment, whether his comments were a euphemism for something else and glad they weren't.
Michael
I feel the same as before, I quit posting for a while because I know what's causing my spikes/worsenings.
@Jiri this article has been discussed before and the data is being misunderstood on TT.
The doctor who conducted the study indicated loud music played well above safe levels during the aerobic classes caused tinnitus for aerobic instructors and enthusiasts, who have greater exposure than average aerobic participants. This is mentioned near the end of the article.
The study of women in NY by a doctor in NY— not Canada — found that the movement of high impact aerobics (jumping, bouncing, etc.) could cause balance issues. In the study, 30 people had balance symptoms while 144 did not.
The study indicated that most people who participate in high impact aerobics do not develop symptoms of tinnitus or balance issues. Of the 30 aerobic instructors and enthusiasts with balance issues, around 67 percent had tinnitus. It was most often found for aerobic instructors who led sessions multiple times a day several days a week. Again, the doctor suggested the cause was loud music not movement.
I am glad this study was brought up on this thread. It shows the value of reading comprehension, looking at the actual data for yourself and not skimming research articles.
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