Will You Get Vaccinated for Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Can It Make Tinnitus or Hyperacusis Worse?

[makeyourownluck]

Wow, lots of 'Anti Vaxxer' bashing going on here. What exactly defines an 'Anti Vaxxer'?

Both myself and my daughter are fully vaccinated against measles, mumps, etc, but my daughter and I will not be injected with any drug that has only been around for 1 year. Especially since the incentive to pass the vaccines through safety tests was so strong. I do not classify myself an 'Anti Vaxxer', I just don't like the lack of knowledge about the potential long term side effects, never mind the short term ones.

However, since I am unvaccinated, I always wear an N95 mask, am pretty strict with my daughter regarding hand sanitising, and have her enrolled in an outdoor nursery to reduce her risks. So I don't think it's fair to paint a picture of unvaccinated people just running around maskless not caring who gets infected @Clerkp.

In my personal experience I've found that people who are vaccinated now feel invincible, and are far more relaxed with the rules.

 

[Clerkp]

I'll take my chances with the virus from now on if I'm still around. My job mandated the vaccine. Like everyone knows already, my first Pfizer vaccine made it a bit higher, and the second shot made it severe. It is so severe I cannot work right now. I have 8 tones. This vaccine may lead to me ending my life and there are a lot more in the same boat. I am telling everyone I can find not to get the vaccine. The media is scaring everyone from a virus that only really hurts people who are from 70-death.

Yes, masks are good! I just wish everyone wore KN95. Hand sanitizer is good too. Plus masks won't hurt you or make your tinnitus worse!

Do you blame them for refusing it? It's basically an untested Frankenstein vaccine. Before you judge anyone, think for a second what you are saying.

I've said it before. I respect your decision. You fall into a category where not getting the vaccine is a reasonable and I don't blame you one bit. I do disagree with you on the whole frankenstein vaccine bit. You yourself claim that vaccines have been known to cause tinnitus. So by your own logic, this was an expected symptom. The bottom line is you are in a very very small minority of people reporting serious side effects from the vaccine.

With all due respect, take a step back and reflect on your feelings. You are in a constant state of fear and/or panic. This is not good for you or your family. You need to drift a little closer back to normality.

I understand and don't disagree. It would be a whole lot easier if people showed some basic respect by wearing masks indoors and getting vaccinated.

Wow, lots of 'Anti Vaxxer' bashing going on here. What exactly defines an 'Anti Vaxxer'?

Both myself and my daughter are fully vaccinated against measles, mumps, etc, but my daughter and I will not be injected with any drug that has only been around for 1 year. Especially since the incentive to pass the vaccines through safety tests was so strong. I do not classify myself an 'Anti Vaxxer', I just don't like the lack of knowledge about the potential long term side effects, never mind the short term ones.

However, since I am unvaccinated, I always wear an N95 mask, am pretty strict with my daughter regarding hand sanitising, and have her enrolled in an outdoor nursery to reduce her risks. So I don't think it's fair to paint a picture of unvaccinated people just running around maskless not caring who gets infected @Clerkp.

In my personal experience I've found that people who are vaccinated now feel invincible, and are far more relaxed with the rules.

You are definitely the exception. Yes vaxxed and unvaxxed run around maskless and neither should be.

 

[Juan]

I do not classify myself an 'Anti Vaxxer', I just don't like the lack of knowledge about the potential long term side effects, never mind the short term ones.

If governments do not report how many vaccinated people are dying, how could we expect pharma companies, who are profiteering from the pandemic, to report the long term side effects produced by their best selling product, the COVID-19 vaccines?

 

[GregCA]

If governments do not report how many vaccinated people are dying, how could we expect pharma companies, who are profiteering from the pandemic, to report the long term side effects produced by their best selling product, the COVID-19 vaccines?

I don't know about Spain, but here in California, the data about vaccinated people dying is available easily.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status

In the "Unvaccinated and vaccinated data", you can hit the Deaths button to see the graph.

The sentence says "From November 14, 2021 to November 20, 2021, unvaccinated people were 15.8 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people." It shows the actual number, in deaths per million for each group.

 

[makeyourownluck]

If governments do not report how many vaccinated people are dying, how could we expect pharma companies, who are profiteering from the pandemic, to report the long term side effects produced by their best selling product, the COVID-19 vaccines?

Totally agree.

Pfizer just keep laying it on thick in their own unbiased (ha!) studies. Panic, 2 jags isn't enough, buy more of our product, then we can bring out a tailored booster which you an also buy later. $$$$$$$$.

The actual unbiased studies show that 2 jabs actually still protects the majority against hospitalisation. It's just business, the selling platform is the media.

 

[Juan]

I don't know about Spain, but here in California, the data about vaccinated people dying is available easily.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-status

In the "Unvaccinated and vaccinated data", you can hit the Deaths button to see the graph.

The sentence says "From November 14, 2021 to November 20, 2021, unvaccinated people were 15.8 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people." It shows the actual number, in deaths per million for each group.

It's good to have data about the circumstances that surround deaths by COVID-19. I think all governments should publish detailed data, and make it widely available to their citizens and the media.

 

[SD7]

The bottom line is you are in a very very small minority of people reporting serious side effects from the vaccine.

This is the sentiment I have the most issue with. When COVID-19 was running rampant last year COVID-19 deniers wrongly and consistently brought up the so called "99%" survival rate as a way to diminish the severity of the disease. As you pointed out correctly, this is a false view considering long-COVID-19 and the sheer intensity at which the disease spreads and mutates.

But now that people have issues with the vaccine in small numbers this is continuously brought up in a similar vein.

Here are the truths: Vaccines work in reducing severity of the disease if you catch it, with little to no issue for the vast majority of people, people should have masked up last year and now it was is a low effort thing to do to protect our fellow citizens and the side effects of the vaccine and by relationship the suffering of those afflicted are downplayed consistently which hurts the most coming from this community since we all are familiar with having an affliction that is not taken as seriously as it should be by the medical community.

It'd be nice if others didn't immediately group us with the anti-vaxers considering everyone in this thread complaining about tinnitus from the vaccine... got the vaccine.

 

[Brian P]

This is the sentiment I have the most issue with. When COVID-19 was running rampant last year COVID-19 deniers wrongly and consistently brought up the so called "99%" survival rate as a way to diminish the severity of the disease. As you pointed out correctly, this is a false view considering long-COVID-19 and the sheer intensity at which the disease spreads and mutates.

But now that people have issues with the vaccine in small numbers this is continuously brought up in a similar vein.

Here are the truths: Vaccines work in reducing severity of the disease if you catch it, with little to no issue for the vast majority of people, people should have masked up last year and now it was is a low effort thing to do to protect our fellow citizens and the side effects of the vaccine and by relationship the suffering of those afflicted are downplayed consistently which hurts the most coming from this community since we all are familiar with having an affliction that is not taken as seriously as it should be by the medical community.

It'd be nice if others didn't immediately group us with the anti-vaxers considering everyone in this thread complaining about tinnitus from the vaccine... got the vaccine.

Amen. I ran to get the vaccine so I could go back to working in person. I thought it was safe, after all I have gotten so many vaccines and never had an issue. I never thought tinnitus would be an issue. People keep questioning me as to whether the vaccine caused my tinnitus. I mean I didn't get the vaccine at an Aerosmith concert and I didn't go home and use a Jack hammer after the vaccine so it's the vaccine itself. My tinnitus went from a 1 to a 12 36 hours after the 2nd shot.

I spoke with a pharmacist today at Rite Aid and she said that because there have been many reports of the vaccine worsening or causing tinnitus, they did a training with her on how to counsel patients. She said it should abate in 6-12 months. I don't buy it.

 

[Clerkp]

I'd be nice if others didn't immediately group us with the anti-vaxers considering everyone in this thread complaining about tinnitus from the vaccine... got the vaccine.

I don't group you at all. If you follow my posts, I said that those with medical reasons not to get vaxxed is completely understandable.

 

[Juan]

But now that people have issues with the vaccine in small numbers this is continuously brought up in a similar vein.

I think as sufferers of a rare hearing condition we may have a different point of view from the majority.

My hyperacusis, severe, happens in about 1 in 500.000 people. So logically I am reluctant to play dice and get vaccinated.

Over years I have visited many doctors and ENTs to find zero solutions for hearing issues.

Most doctors are just dispatchers of stuff provided by pharma companies, and they incur in unethical behaviours like accepting luxury trips paid by pharma companies in exchange for prescribing their drug and no other, even if the other drug may be better for the patient.

 

[SectorClear]

I got tinnitus 13 days after my initial Pfizer shot in April. I had been having sinus and jaw issues at the same time so my ENT chalked it up to TMJ. I've since had a septoplasty and turbinate reduction, as well as been fitted with a night mouthguard and taken muscle relaxers every night before bed and no change to tinnitus.

I bought hearing aids to help me cope about 3 weeks ago, and they were so effective that I got my 2nd Pfizer shot to complete my sequence. Well sure as shit, here I am and about 13 days after my 2nd shot, my tinnitus is louder. I'm hopeful that if the vaccine caused it it'll eventually get quieter and go away, or that I can try things like Fluvoxamine. Maybe an anti inflammatory diet. All I know is this shot, if it's what caused my tinnitus, has caused me immense grief and suffering all for a disease that I, as a 36 year old 6 feet 160 lb male, have essentially a zero % chance of dying from.

 

[Chris S.]

If you do have another shot, will you get a different vaccine?

Probably not. In retrospect, the second jab did not worsen the damage that the first jab did for me. I will probably choose the same vaccine.

 

[LilSass]

I will absolutely not get the booster shot, I don't give a shit. I've had COVID-19 and two vaccinations - I sincerely don't believe another dose is going to help me in anyway. I've been lucky that my tinnitus did not worsen and I am so sorry for those people that like me, did the right thing and got f***ed.

My main issue is the two months of chronic pain/migraine this has caused me.

I was doing so well during the few months before the second vax that I was actually okay with the tinnitus. My tinnitus can be mild to moderate, so I do understand that many have it worse than me. I felt forced into taking it and now I wish I hadn't. It has been hell! Everybody except me was so sure that it would be fine. Now I'm the one who has to deal with it. Of course when I google the side effects of the vax there is absolutely no information out there except that it will pass within a few days - it's been two months ffs! I know it has affected many with underlying conditions as myself, in fact, my neighbor friend has been having worsening of her chronic pain/migraines as well. I'm sure there are more out there. When I spoke to my doctor's office they stated that I would not be granted an exemption if a third shot is mandated, they only care about people with allergies or heart inflammation. I really hope all this shit blows over before that time comes, I don't need the aggro of being pressured by my employer, etc.

BTW I love it when people say that there could be another cause for this. Really? How coincidental do you think that is that it happened right after the vax? Maybe I can't prove that it is related, but on one can sure as hell prove that it wasn't!

 

[Chris S.]

@Chris S. -- I would encourage you to keep in mind that there are many things a person can do to minimize total viral load in case of a COVID-19 infection. If you do enough of them (before and after an infection), the probability of getting severe COVID-19--or a case that results in an exacerbation of tinnitus-- seems pretty close to zero to me.

Many Naturopathic Doctors are already very successfull using various kinds of low-cost, low-risk protocols. You don't hear much about them because of the degree of censorship currently going on by the "gate-keepers" of information dissemination. All they want you to hear about is vaccines, booster shots, vaccines, booster shots... ad nauseam.

Also, another good thing keep in mind (NYT article below); it would seem there's really no good reason to get a vaccination if you don't have other chronic health conditions.

Nearly All Patients Hospitalized With Covid-19 Had Chronic Health Issues, Study Finds -- Only 6 percent of patients at one New York area health system had no chronic conditions. Hypertension, obesity and diabetes were common.

You are correct - we don't hear much about naturopathy and, to be honest, my experience with naturopathy has not been very uplifting. Having tried several times naturopathic solutions in the past for a number of maladies - from chronic stomach issues to severe TMJ problems and to severe tinnitus - I did not experience any (notable) improvement. I believe a number of other posters here have tried naturopathic remedies - mostly herbal formulations and/or phytochemical extracts. Their experiences seem to be mixed. Most recently (a few months ago), I tried several types of mushroom extracts to, hopefully, tame a bit the hissing in my ears, and my tinnitus skyrocketed for a few weeks. While I am sure that there are beneficial naturopathic options, those are not for everyone, and what works for you may not work for me. When I was a kid, for example, everyone was obsessed with bee propolis - I, on the other hand, had a severe reaction to it and could not take it.

 

[Chris S.]

I got tinnitus 13 days after my initial Pfizer shot in April. I had been having sinus and jaw issues at the same time so my ENT chalked it up to TMJ. I've since had a septoplasty and turbinate reduction, as well as been fitted with a night mouthguard and taken muscle relaxers every night before bed and no change to tinnitus.

I bought hearing aids to help me cope about 3 weeks ago, and they were so effective that I got my 2nd Pfizer shot to complete my sequence. Well sure as shit, here I am and about 13 days after my 2nd shot, my tinnitus is louder. I'm hopeful that if the vaccine caused it it'll eventually get quieter and go away, or that I can try things like Fluvoxamine. Maybe an anti inflammatory diet. All I know is this shot, if it's what caused my tinnitus, has caused me immense grief and suffering all for a disease that I, as a 36 year old 6 feet 160 lb male, have essentially a zero % chance of dying from.

I had severe TMJ problems for 6 years. So severe that, as severe as my tinnitus currently is, the TMJ suffering was worse. I could not eat anything that wasn't pureed or mushed. Muscle relaxants made me woozy but never did anything else to help ease the condition. Like you, I also have sinus issues (and those, I am starting to become convinced, also impact tinnitus). I spent lots of money and efforts in going to various TMJ specialists/orthodontists since my TMJ issues were clearly muscular and due to an awful bite that went crazy after an incompetent dentist had pulled out a wisdom tooth which had caused the bite to shift. It took three years of orthodontic work to improve significantly my bite and for the past 2 years, my TMJ issues have been mild. I still sleep with a nightguard but I rarely notice my TMJ problems these days, and can also eat and chew almost anything.

My tinnitus was worsened (probably permanently) by the Pfizer jab, so we are in the same boat. But, I am not at all sure I want to encounter COVID-19, as it may be worse than the vaccine (I am mostly healthy, but have certain factors that could make COVID-19 an issue). More to the point - where I live, the anti-vaxxers or anti-maskers (or both) are not just the majority - they are the VAST majority (70-75% or even more). Since these people don't do anything to at least help curb the spread of the disease, I don't have much choice when it comes to the vaccine. And, additionally, the institution I am teaching at has an active vaccine mandate (which was recently temporarily blocked by state legislation).

 

[Brian P]

I got tinnitus 13 days after my initial Pfizer shot in April. I had been having sinus and jaw issues at the same time so my ENT chalked it up to TMJ. I've since had a septoplasty and turbinate reduction, as well as been fitted with a night mouthguard and taken muscle relaxers every night before bed and no change to tinnitus.

I bought hearing aids to help me cope about 3 weeks ago, and they were so effective that I got my 2nd Pfizer shot to complete my sequence. Well sure as shit, here I am and about 13 days after my 2nd shot, my tinnitus is louder. I'm hopeful that if the vaccine caused it it'll eventually get quieter and go away, or that I can try things like Fluvoxamine. Maybe an anti inflammatory diet. All I know is this shot, if it's what caused my tinnitus, has caused me immense grief and suffering all for a disease that I, as a 36 year old 6 feet 160 lb male, have essentially a zero % chance of dying from.

Why did you get the second vaccine?

 

[tpj]

Probably not. In retrospect, the second jab did not worsen the damage that the first jab did for me. I will probably choose the same vaccine.

I reacted to AstraZeneca. My doctor thinks I should try a different vaccine. Have no idea what I'm going to do.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I reacted to AstraZeneca. My doctor thinks I should try a different vaccine. Have no idea what I'm going to do.

Sorry to hear about your reaction to AstraZeneca and hope you have recovered. I had two AstraZeneca vaccines with no ill effects. Recently had a Pfizer booster thankfully with no problems.

 

[LeQuack]

Got my 2nd dose of Pfizer two days ago. On the day of vaccination there was nothing. But yesterday was like the worst day ever, never been so sick in my life. Had massive migraine, nausea, chills, everything in my body hurt and I could barely move. I don't ever want to experience something like that again, it was like torture for 24 hours.

Also my tinnitus was again elevated and seemed a lot louder, but with all that pain it was of second concern. I'll see how it will be in the coming days. Screw this vaccine and people forcing it.

After two months the elevated tinnitus still persists. Much louder in my left ear, and new sound in my right ear for two months now.
Apart from that my right eyelid now twitches from time to time, also started after 2nd dose. And with my luck I will also have the mentioned heart problems down the line as well.

So thanks to the vaccine and vaccine pushers I am now worse off than I was.

 

[Spencer123]

It's been about 28 hours since my booster shot now. I am happy to report no significant change in tinnitus. It's actually been pretty quiet for the past 2 days.

I have been doing some "alternative" things to treat tinnitus after the 2 ENT visits didn't help.

One is I tried acupuncture. Not sure it does anything, but more on that later.

I started taking Ginkgo biloba supplements because I heard that is good for nerve cells.

I started getting deep massages, which may be really making a difference. I had accumulated a lot of tension in my upper back and neck probably for two main reasons: (1) Doing lots of chin-ups on my little door-hanger bar during lockdown, without much stretching or other exercises, (2) Sitting in front of a computer a lot.

So my acupuncture doctor is a definitely a hippy and "let your feelings guide you" kind of person, but he's also definitely smart and well-educated. He said he's had 3 patients with post-vaccine tinnitus, and he believes that sometimes, the mRNA enters the bloodstream (when it's supposed to mostly stay in the arm muscle), and gets absorbed random places and can cause inflammation there. This sounds pretty plausible to me. But it means that getting tinnitus after a vaccine depends on some random factors involving blood flow and possibly improper injection (into blood vessel rather than muscle tissue). Whatever causes tinnitus gets affected. (I'm leaning towards one cause, which I think applies to me, being inflamed nerves in the neck / spinal cord.)

I also have been taking a heavy regimen of some Chinese herbal tea that's supposed to reduce inflammation, starting 2 days before vaccination. I don't know what's in it, but it was recommended by a family member.

So, I'll keep you updated. The tinnitus is still there, and may get worse, but so far it's been a mild few days, with some hours of actual silence sprinkled in here and there.

Glad to hear things are looking optimistic. Did you get Moderna for your booster or something else?

 

[tpj]

Sorry to hear about your reaction to AstraZeneca and hope you have recovered. I had two AstraZeneca vaccines with no ill effects. Recently had a Pfizer booster thankfully with no problems.

Thanks Michael. I haven't recovered and am afraid I'm going to be stuck with this.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Thanks Michael. I haven't recovered and am afraid I'm going to be stuck with this.

There is always hope tpj, so never stop believing that things can change.

Take care,
Michael

 

[InfiniteLoop]

I did not have any side effects from COVID-19 vaccine and booster. I did not have any doubt about vaccination as a positive path to fight COVID-19.

 

[Damocles]

(WARNING: This is a clip from a radio broadcast covering a very exciting race, do not press play if you have reactive tinnitus, as it is likely to over-react.)

 

[SectorClear]

Why did you get the second vaccine?

Got hearing aids with maskers and thought tinnitus was completely a non issue. They really are / were effective. Had a COVID-19 scare with some kids at daycare and decided I'd rather finish my sequence than get sick and have to miss work and lose out on money, plus with the stupid mandate my company is requiring it anyways. And 2 family friends died of COVID-19 so I let the fear get to me. Either choice is shitty, this whole thing is a choice between bad options, but I need to fully own and forgive and accept that I took the path I did for me to have any chance at habitation. My doctor is also really cool about giving me any drug I want so I'll see if he can get me on Fluvoxamine or maybe Gabapentin to see if they work.

Way long reply to your question lol, I feel slightly better having written my thoughts down like that. Maybe people will find it helpful.

I have to admit my sleep has been awful and anxiety as high as ever so maybe if those get under control it'll get better. Sleep, actual good uninterrupted sleep without my kids waking me up, makes a noticeable decrease in volume for tinnitus. And stress management helps a lot too, like if I play video games for a couple hours while the wife takes the kids, I won't think about and therefore won't hear my tinnitus.

Edit : I figured we'll all catch covid at some point at this rate, and seeing as that is also causing and worsening tinnitus in people, I thought maybe the shot would help that. I guess I'll find out at some point since covid is now endemic.

 

[Chris S.]

I did not have any side effects from COVID-19 vaccine and booster. I did not have any doubt about vaccination as a positive path to fight COVID-19.

Good to hear. Many of us here, however, had their tinnitus worsened greatly after the first series of vaccinations. 8 months later - no improvement.

 

[Lane]

Apart from that my right eyelid now twitches from time to time, also started after 2nd dose.

Hi LeQuack -- I described how I got rid of my eye twitching in the following post. --- Take care!

DMSO & Magnesium Oil for Tonic Tensor Tympani Syndrome (TTTS)

 

[SD7]

I don't group you at all. If you follow my posts, I said that those with medical reasons not to get vaxxed is completely understandable.

Right, that other was actually meant for other people.

Moreover, I am sincerely sorry your son has missed out on so much. I can't imagine how painful that is as a parent. One thing everyone in this thread can agree on is hate for the disease that has displaced so much of life and has left many houses in the country less joyous with the absent of family members.

 

[Baker]

Is there a consensus here on what COVID-19 vaccine seems to give less of a chance of making your tinnitus worse?

Also, I wonder if it would be better to wait a longer time before getting the 2nd shot instead of what two weeks later? Maybe wait a month or two?

 

[Baker]

Still, vaccinated/unvaccinated hospitalization ratio is much higher at unvaccinated side (80%-20%), which cannot be dismissed. Also, vaccinated hospitalization mainly occurs for immunosuppressed people or who have many co-morbidities.

Also, when I was in the hospital, all 3 of my ward "mates" were between 30-40 years. Only one had other health problems, and other two were relatively healthy (all three were hospitalized because of oxygen shortage because of pneumonia and needed additional oxygen support). According to my country statistics, there were 57 deaths of 20-39 people age group, and only 2 vaccinated in the same age group because of COVID-19, which shows that hospitalization/death is much more likely without being vaccinated even at younger age group.

I've taken the vaccine 9 months after COVID-19 infection without any side effects, except sore arm. I admit that I was hesitating taking vaccine, because my COVID-19 antibody was very high 9 months after the infection and I was scared of making my tinnitus worse, but thankfully everything went well.

What vaccine did you get? I've waited to get one as I hoped a new one would come along that no one complained of tinnitus side effects. But looks like that is happening at least soon anyways. And I thought I could squeak by, but now we learn vaccinated people can/do spread the virus. And so I thought I might be okay in say a hospital setting with the doctors probably having the vaccine, but now know they can still spread it.

So since I'll be having to get dental work done, I've thought of at least just getting one shot for the time being, but not sure which one has the least reported instances of tinnitus side effect? Anyone here know or at least know which vaccine people here seem to complain the less about regarding tinnitus side effect?

Also, I'm chronically very ill and generally have a lot of inflammation or whatever as I was diagnosed years ago of likely having Sjogrens syndrome, which is an autoimmune illness. My arthritis is horrible. I did have a positive blood test 20 years ago for Lyme Disease, a C-6 Peptide test, though even though I have similar symptoms of Lyme, doctors I've mentioned that to say there isn't a lot of Lyme in my state, so who knows?