Will You Get Vaccinated for Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Can It Make Tinnitus or Hyperacusis Worse?

[Walker123]

I was never vaccinated and I just recovered from COVID-19. I had mild flu-like symptoms and a blocked nose and a loss of smell. After about 12 days I was fully recovered. A week later my smell returned.

My tinnitus stayed the same.

Thank god I don't live in a country with mandatory vaccination. This pandemic is on its return and normal healthy people don't need a vaccine. And you should only take a vaccine if it benefits your health, not to keep your freedom.

 

[Syd Barrett]

For those who care what the vaccine injury reporting systems are telling us, it's becoming increasingly clear that the roll-out of these injections (they cannot be called vaccines since they do not confer either immunity or protection) will one day be seen as an even greater medical scandal than that of thalidomide.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been coerced into taking an insufficiently-tested medical intervention that they did not need. And many of them have died from it.

In a couple of more years it'll be almost impossible to find someone who will admit to have been in favour of these damn injections.

 

[Juan]

Hundreds of thousands of people have been coerced into taking an insufficiently-tested medical intervention that they did not need. And many of them have died from it.

That's why governments have granted immunity from legal action to pharma companies distributing the "vaccines".

 

[aura]

In Eastern Europe only 50% of the population got vaccinated. People were wiser in those countries.

Romanians are anything but wise. Many people are poor and uneducated.

Romania was hit HARD by the Delta wave. We had around 500 deaths per day. 9 out of 10 unvaccinated. That's huge.

If having the highest COVID-19 death rate in the world is something to aim for then yes, you could say that we're the wisest on the planet.

Being old, with health problems, living in Romania and choosing not to vaccinate is worthy of a Darwin Award.

 

[Manex]

Waiting for Novavax experiences here. It will be available in European countries very soon (shipment has already begun).

I saw a report where there was no heart inflammation issue with it which it has been thought that this would be the same thing that would be making tinnitus worse. But there were only reports of heart inflammation I believe with the mRNA and still J&J is actually the only one that even confirmed tinnitus as a potential side effect.

However, it has been pondered by the medical professionals to me that Pfizer and Moderna were being very favorable to themselves in interpreting tinnitus related feedback. And under-reporting.

 

[Matchbox]

I love companies that regulate and grade themselves or pay others to do it for them the right way.

 

[Ed209]

For those who care what the vaccine injury reporting systems are telling us, it's becoming increasingly clear that the roll-out of these injections (they cannot be called vaccines since they do not confer either immunity or protection) will one day be seen as an even greater medical scandal than that of thalidomide.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been coerced into taking an insufficiently-tested medical intervention that they did not need. And many of them have died from it.

In a couple of more years, it'll be almost impossible to find someone who will admit to have been in favour of these damn injections.

Comparing the COVID-19 vaccine to thalidomide is becoming a bit tired and predictable, in my opinion. I'm pro-choice, so I do not agree with governments forcing people to have something against their will, but one cannot argue against the effectiveness of the jabs as the data are unequivocal. This forum is slowly turning into a bit of an anti-vax brigade in spite of the data we have from over 4 billion people. If the side effects were severe or prominent, there would be hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, reporting tinnitus as an issue. We don't see this happening.

It is clear that the vaccines have the potential to cause hearing related issues, but so do many other drugs and viruses. I think it's being blown out of proportion on here, and I believe a case could be made to suggest that some may even be causing the spike they experience via their own neuroticism.

With all that said, I don't agree with censoring those who hold contrarian views, and I despise the current cancel culture that is sweeping across the world. Everyone has the right to an opinion because we have free speech, and silencing people goes against the moral fabric that honest societies are built upon. It's a fascist move.

 

[UKBloke]

I'm getting déjà flu.

 

[HeavyMantra]

So I'm yet unvaccinated (tinnitus fears + hereditary heart dysfunction which may or may not matter). Novavax should be just around the corner in Sweden, I'll get it as soon as it's released.

However, I'm pretty sure I'll catch Omicron before then since Sweden lifted all restrictions and I have to commute daily now (trams and buses are JAM PACKED since people don't work from home anymore). The boat on the Pfizer vaccines has sailed from what I understand, won't give any protection fast enough for this situation and I would rather get Novavax (just gut feeling). Knowing what I know now I would have gotten Pfizer months ago but I was paralyzed by fear and could live very isolated. I did not expect Sweden to remove all restrictions at the very height of spread of the virus.

I'm pretty stressed out about this now. Suddenly I find myself in somewhat uncharted territory: how bad is Omicron for the unvaccinated? Well, if all goes well I'll get Novavax soon and report back here.

 

[aura]

how bad is Omicron for the unvaccinated?

Well, not as bad as Delta.

But, from what I've seen till now: headaches, nasal congestion, ear problems in some cases (because of the congestion I guess), sore throat, laryngitis. Not much for healthy people but might be problematic for us tinnitus sufferers (at least for a while).

But there's not much you can do now.

From what I've been reading here, most of them recovered.

Fewer deaths comparing to Delta (in our country mostly old people, with comorbidities, 8/10 unvaccinated.)

 

[lymebite]

how bad is Omicron for the unvaccinated?

From the South Africa data, Omicron looks 85 percent less severe than Delta. So if you look at the death rate charts for your age and your co-morbidities for "original Covid" and Delta (before vaccines arrived), and the South Africa data holds, Omicron should be 85 percent less bad for the unvaccinated.

"The death rate in those infected with the omicron coronavirus variant in South Africa peaked at 14% to 15% of the rate seen when the country was experiencing a wave dominated by the delta variant, according to the National Institute for Communicable Diseases."​

Omicron Death Rate in South Africa Peaked at 15% of Delta Wave

 

[Ed209]

Omicron is like nature's vaccine, in my opinion. It's a much weaker strain, it infects everyone faster, and it boosts one's immunity.

 

[InNeedOfHelp]

VIDEO: 'We really do need more research' on link between COVID-19 vaccination and tinnitus

Interesting video on the research field of COVID-19 vaccination induced tinnitus, the risk of COVID-19 induced tinnitus which also gives advice on taking a booster or not.

 

[Sentinel]

Absolutely not.

I'm fit and possess none of the comorbidities that most commonly kill people that contract it, despite having it before. The risks based on the statistics I've seen of me having a worsening of tinnitus are minimal, and yet I'm still not going to take a vaccine that I deem fundamentally unnecessary due to my status that could even have a chance to increase my tinnitus. I've taken too many precautions and made progress with OTO-313 to throw all that away on what I regard to be a useless vaccine for my situation.

I am a lone wolf and when I'm around vulnerable populations of people I take precautions to ensure I don't transmit. These vaccines have driven dozens of people to this site with spikes and new manifestations of the condition and no matter how small the risk I don't deem it worth it.

This killed Kent Taylor and we should remember that, at least those of us who are least likely to be affected by COVID-19.

 

[HeavyMantra]

Absolutely not.

I'm fit and possess none of the comorbidities that most commonly kill people that contract it, despite having it before. The risks based on the statistics I've seen of me having a worsening of tinnitus are minimal, and yet I'm still not going to take a vaccine that I deem fundamentally unnecessary due to my status that could even have a chance to increase my tinnitus. I've taken too many precautions and made progress with OTO-313 to throw all that away on what I regard to be a useless vaccine for my situation.

I am a lone wolf and when I'm around vulnerable populations of people I take precautions to ensure I don't transmit. These vaccines have driven dozens of people to this site with spikes and new manifestations of the condition and no matter how small the risk I don't deem it worth it.

This killed Kent Taylor and we should remember that, at least those of us who are least likely to be affected by COVID-19.

Not disagreeing with you in the slightest. One thing to keep in mind though: the sheer amount of people who have taken the vaccines worldwide makes the relatively small influx of people who report they got tinnitus from it on this forum negligible (but not for them, on a personal level). And some of them will think they got tinnitus from the virus, while the actual cause was something else. And in other cases, the true cause was the virus but doctors will have them believe it was caused by "stress".

I would like to know the actual percentage though: most people probably don't report thing like this on forums online. Time will tell. Same thing goes for the infection: if almost everyone alive caught another virus it would also cause tinnitus in some of them.

What's scary about COVID-19 is that the virus seems able to spread to and infect inner ear hair cells and nerve endings. This is bad, bad news when it happens but probably rare. Still, I know several people IRL who got tinnitus from COVID-19. I trust this more than any studies on the subject: how may percentage of old people who reported tinnitus as a symptom when they were in the hospital isn't very relevant to the population at large.

For me, two new permanent tones were the only symptoms. When I catch Omicron unvaccinated we'll see how it goes.

 

[HeavyMantra]

Omicron is like nature's vaccine, in my opinion. It's a much weaker strain, it infects everyone faster, and it boosts one's immunity.

Yes. There's something comforting about this: the best thing for the virus is to kill less and infect more people.

 

[Stacken77]

I did not expect Sweden to remove all restrictions at the very height of spread of the virus.

I'm pretty stressed out about this now.

I'm also unvaccinated, and pretty stressed about this too.

 

[HeavyMantra]

I'm also unvaccinated, and pretty stressed about this too.

I'm also Swedish, the restrictions were lifted shockingly fast huh? So starting Monday, I will have to commute and see people every day. In 1 month, I will have to be in close contact with mostly elderly patients every weekday for 3 weeks which is far from ideal for them.

I'll get Novavax as soon as it's released here. Did you know it's in part developed here in Sweden? I have no choice but to get vaccinated sooner or later to get a job, and I'd rather take my chances with Novavax at this point. I'll get it before any tinnitus-related side effects have a chance of being reported, I have everything to win by deluding myself that Novavax is safer regardless of the truth.

 

[summitplum]

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't Novavax similar to Johnson and Johnson, which is known to cause tinnitus? I'm not sure how Novavax would be much safer than the alternatives.

 

[tpj]

I'm also unvaccinated, and pretty stressed about this too.

Is this because you're worried the vaccine will affect your tinnitus?

 

[Stacken77]

Is this because you're worried the vaccine will affect your tinnitus?

I'm worried to catch COVID-19, and worried to take the vaccine, because of the tinnitus and hyperacusis - yes.

Though, I'm considering giving the protein based Nuvaxovid a shot once it arrives here, which is very soon.

 

[tpj]

Stuck between a rock and a hard place. Fuck I hate this.

 

[makeyourownluck]

I'm worried to catch COVID-19, and worried to take the vaccine, because of the tinnitus and hyperacusis - yes.

The feeling of being doomed either way is extremely stressful.

I was going to take Nuvaxovid once it was available, but that was before Omicron, which now infects the vaccinated. I've been reading a lot of personal accounts trying to gauge if tinnitus spikes are occurring at a higher rate in the unvaccinated population, but it doesn't appear to be.

At this point, I'm thinking, why risk both? It's a nightmare.

 

[Robster]

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't Novavax similar to Johnson and Johnson, which is known to cause tinnitus? I'm not sure how Novavax would be much safer than the alternatives.

The feeling of being doomed either way is extremely stressful.

I was going to take Nuvaxovid once it was available, but that was before Omicron, which now infects the vaccinated. I've been reading a lot of personal accounts trying to gauge if tinnitus spikes are occurring at a higher rate in the unvaccinated population, but it doesn't appear to be.

At this point, I'm thinking, why risk both? It's a nightmare.

I was considering Novavax for my second shot after the disaster of my first shot (Pfizer made my tinnitus much higher pitch), but with Omicron being much milder I won't be getting a second shot.

 

[summitplum]

I was considering Novavax for my second shot after the disaster of my first shot (Pfizer made my tinnitus much higher pitch), but with Omicron being much milder I won't be getting a second shot.

Omicron isn't milder for unvaccinated. Those reports are only in those who are vaccinated or had COVID-19 prior.

 

[HeavyMantra]

I'm considering giving the protein based Nuvaxovid a shot once it arrives here, which is very soon.

Available starting today (in Stockholm).

 

[HeavyMantra]

Omicron isn't milder for unvaccinated. Those reports are only in those who are vaccinated or had COVID-19 prior.

Source?

 

[Robster]

Omicron isn't milder for unvaccinated. Those reports are only in those who are vaccinated or had COVID-19 prior.

I'm not unvaccinated, I'm partially vaccinated as I have had one vaccine dose. Also, yes, Omicron is milder compared to Delta (not saying that Omicron can't be dangerous), but saying it is as severe as Delta is 100% factually incorrect.

 

[HeavyMantra]

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't Novavax similar to Johnson and Johnson, which is known to cause tinnitus? I'm not sure how Novavax would be much safer than the alternatives.

They seem to be different, though I don't understand exactly how. J&J is a vector based vaccine that, similar to Pfizer, instructs cells to start making the antibodies or spike proteins, but Novavax is just straight up spike proteins ready to go. The effects of Novavax on tinnitus remains to be seen. But they claim that it has fewer side effects in general.

 

[Aryhian]

My severe tinnitus started the day after my first Pfizer vaccine. My ENT consultant acknowledged that this is happening both after COVID-19 infection and vaccination.

This is the first research I have seen:

SARS-CoV-2 vaccine-associated-tinnitus: A review