Will You Get Vaccinated for Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Can It Make Tinnitus or Hyperacusis Worse?

[Kriszti]

In general, what should you do in the days after getting vaccinated (if you don't have side effects and feel well)? Change nothing and go on with your life? Rest, avoid public places? Besides taking the general precautions: mask, hand washing, distancing.

(My elderly relative will get the Sinopharm, it contains inactivated virus. But I guess, not many people here have experience with that specific vaccine.)

 

[Mister Muso]

Absolutely I'll get the vaccine. I've never suffered an adverse effect on my tinnitus from any medication. I've worried about many situations making my tinnitus worse which have turned out to be unfounded.

COVID-19 however is a clear and present danger which has already killed 2 million people. The vaccine is our only chance to beat it and has already been tested in hundreds of thousands.

We don't have time to waste, and I don't have much patience for conspiracy theorists who say otherwise based on dodgy "science" and fear mongering.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Absolutely I'll get the vaccine. I've never suffered an adverse effect on my tinnitus from any medication. I've worried about many situations making my tinnitus worse which have turned out to be unfounded.

COVID-19 however is a clear and present danger which has already killed 2 million people. The vaccine is our only chance to beat it and has already been tested in hundreds of thousands.

We don't have time to waste, and I don't have much patience for conspiracy theorists who say otherwise based on dodgy "science" and fear mongering.

You have the right attitude Mister Muso. I don't know whether the vaccine will have an adverse effect on my tinnitus but I'm going to have it when called. Worrying about it can make matters worse because tinnitus can be influenced a lot by stress.

 

[Mister Muso]

You have the right attitude Mister Muso. I don't know whether the vaccine will have an adverse effect on my tinnitus but I'm going to have it when called. Worrying about it can make matters worse because tinnitus can be influenced a lot by stress.

I watched a Panorama documentary about how the Oxford vaccine was designed in a weekend on a computer back in February. The following months were spent on manufacturing and testing. As an IT professional I'm excited by the prospect of artificial intelligence being used to develop ever more effective vaccines more proactively as the number of pandemics potentially increases.

Yes, there are valid questions about how China adapted and bounced back so quickly. Then again, so did South Korea. Maybe having experienced other epidemics in modern times this made them more prepared.

As you indicate however, if I understand you correctly, it's better just to focus on the known knowns that directly affect us, rather than any of the unknowns that are outwith our control.

 

[Michael Leigh]

As you indicate however, if I understand you correctly, it's better just to focus on the known knowns that directly affect us, rather than any of the unknowns that are outwith our control.

My thoughts exactly. Whether the virus was accidentally released from a laboratory in China, or it emerged from their Wuhan market, we may never know but it's here now and we have to deal with. This time last year, who would have thought of the nightmare that was about to be unleashed on the world.

 

[Jack V]

My thoughts exactly. Whether the virus was accidentally released from a laboratory in China, or it emerged from their Wuhan market, we may never know but it's here now and we have to deal with. This time last year, who would have thought of the nightmare that was about to be unleashed on the world.

Scientists who study pandemics and warned about it for years.

 

[Lane]

Scientists who study pandemics and warned about it for years.

Perhaps many people wrote it off as "fake news".

 

[Michael Leigh]

Scientists who study pandemics and warned about it for years.

You raise an interesting point and so has Lane. There will always be people that want concrete evidence before believing something is true, even when they are being advised by experts that happen to be scientists. This is just a part of human nature, for each person has their own mind opinion and dare I say it considers themselves an expert. Even when facts are staring them in the face they become dismissive. This can be borne out of fear other times arrogance, for it's not enough that a person has a string of qualifications after their name.

One just has to look at the vaccine debate and the controversy it has raised during this pandemic. There are people who are adamant, they are not going to have it because they believe it's not safe, going to alter their DNA or they are going to be tracked and their government will know everything about them.

Michael

 

[linearb]

My thoughts exactly. Whether the virus was accidentally released from a laboratory in China, or it emerged from their Wuhan market, we may never know but it's here now and we have to deal with. This time last year, who would have thought of the nightmare that was about to be unleashed on the world.

I think by this time last year, a lot of people. I remember still being in the planning phases of a summer trip, and one of the people involved made the comment that they were unlikely to attend if COVID-19 shut down travel and the eastern seaboard of the US.

A year ago I was sick as hell with some kind of influenza-like virus that was followed by the most severe respiratory problems I've ever had , and it looks to me like 3/8 of last year was the last time I went out did things socially. I think that means we spent the 3/9-3/15 week loading up on supplies for the long haul, and we've been in more or less the same holding pattern ever since, with some variations as the situation on the ground has changed.

Vaccinations will be great but until our kid can be vaccinated it doesn't necessarily change a whole lot; we know we see weird, scary effects in kids sometimes following minor infection, and we don't yet have sufficient data to say whether this is much more likely than with other random childhood viruses. 2021 is probably going to be a road back to some kind of more social living but I don't expect it to happen very fast. I also probably only want the Pfizer vaxx, at least for my kid; I'll roll the dice on purportedly worse peripheral effects from Moderna myself, but I wouldn't with my kid, and I am unconvinced on J&J / AZ, and definitely don't want any of the other non-RNA vaccines (which likely won't show up stateside anyway).

 

[FGG]

I think by this time last year, a lot of people. I remember still being in the planning phases of a summer trip, and one of the people involved made the comment that they were unlikely to attend if COVID-19 shut down travel and the eastern seaboard of the US.

A year ago I was sick as hell with some kind of influenza-like virus that was followed by the most severe respiratory problems I've ever had , and it looks to me like 3/8 of last year was the last time I went out did things socially. I think that means we spent the 3/9-3/15 week loading up on supplies for the long haul, and we've been in more or less the same holding pattern ever since, with some variations as the situation on the ground has changed.

Vaccinations will be great but until our kid can be vaccinated it doesn't necessarily change a whole lot; we know we see weird, scary effects in kids sometimes following minor infection, and we don't yet have sufficient data to say whether this is much more likely than with other random childhood viruses. 2021 is probably going to be a road back to some kind of more social living but I don't expect it to happen very fast. I also probably only want the Pfizer vaxx, at least for my kid; I'll roll the dice on purportedly worse peripheral effects from Moderna myself, but I wouldn't with my kid, and I am unconvinced on J&J / AZ, and definitely don't want any of the other non-RNA vaccines (which likely won't show up stateside anyway).

Just curious, but what's your reservation with Novavax? Assuming it gets approved in the US.

 

[Tweaker]

I'm due to get my vaccine soon. From reading all the posts, it seems the Moderna vaccine has caused more trouble and Pfizer's seems preferable.

Has anyone got experience of the AstraZenica vaccine?

 

[Jack V]

I'm due to get my vaccine soon. From reading all the posts, it seems the Moderna vaccine has caused more trouble and Pfizer's seems preferable

I don't know that that's true.

I know an increasing number of people who've received Moderna without any problems. At worst they feel crappy and their temperature goes up for a day or so. I've also talked to people who received Pfizer and also felt out of sorts following the 1st or 2nd shot.

Generally, both seem excellent.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I'm due to get my vaccine soon. From reading all the posts, it seems the Moderna vaccine has caused more trouble and Pfizer's seems preferable.

Has anyone got experience of the AstraZenica vaccine?

A friend of mine has had the vaccine but can't remember which one. She was advised to take Paracetamol before the jab and every 4 hours afterwards for just one day, to minimise any adverse effects which she didn't have. Whether this helped or not, I've no idea but will be doing the same when I'm called to have the vaccine.

 

[Lane]

Paracetamol

Could spike tinnitus...

 

[Michael Leigh]

Could spike tinnitus...

HI Lane,

So far I have never had any problems with Paracetamol spiking my tinnitus nor taking ibuprofen. My blood pressure medicine Amlodipine, is listed as can cause ringing in the ears and haven't noticed any problems. You are right to point this out but there are a lot of people (not you) that worry any medication they take will spike their tinnitius, which often isn't the case. However, worrying over this can make the tinnitus increase due to stress.

 

[Juan]

Has anyone got experience of the AstraZenica vaccine?

I haven't had any vaccine, but media reports that the AstraZeneca vaccine is the less effective.

 

[Jack Straw]

Has anyone here actually taken the vaccine?

 

[ajc]

Has anyone here actually taken the vaccine?

Many...

Share Your Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccine Experience: Any Impact on Your Tinnitus or Hyperacusis?

 

[Jack Straw]

Many...

Share Your Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccine Experience: Any Impact on Your Tinnitus or Hyperacusis?

Thanks! I didn't see that thread.

 

[Jack Straw]

This is something interesting I found regarding the vaccine from J&J. I apologize if this has already been posted.

Is J&J's COVID-19 vaccine linked to tinnitus?

A 21-year-old volunteer involved in a Phase 1 trial for the J&J vaccine developed tinnitus and sudden hearing loss 34 days after receiving the vaccine. The patient recovered 69 days after receiving the injection. Johnson & Johnson also determined that the event was unrelated to the vaccine.

In all, some 43,783 volunteers participated in the Phase 3 trial. A total of 19,630 participants received the Ad26.COV2.S vaccine. Only 0.03% of vaccine recipients reported tinnitus after inoculation, and those who did tended to have underlying medical conditions that are risk factors for the condition.

In a briefing document, FDA concluded that the data did not necessarily support a causal link between the tinnitus reports and the vaccine.

All six participants had at least one possible risk factor for tinnitus, including hypertension, hypothyroidism, depression, prior history of tinnitus, allergic rhinitis and medicine use.

This seems a little concerning that if you have a prior history of tinnitus, it puts you at a higher risk of developing worsened tinnitus from the vaccine. I wonder if this is from the vaccine or from the immune system ramping up.

COVID-19 itself could also induce or worsen tinnitus, according to a study published in Frontiers in Public Health.

An International Journal of Audiology study found that close to 15% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients reported hearing loss eight weeks after being discharged.

Essentially we have to pick our poison. Get the vaccine, or get COVID-19. Either way we are rolling the dice.

In the article it says that the majority of people who got the J&J vaccine resolved their tinnitus:

In Johnson & Johnson's Phase 3 trial for the Ad26.COV2.S COVID-19 vaccine, six vaccine recipients developed tinnitus or ringing in the ears.

In five of those individuals, tinnitus had either resolved or was resolving. The condition was unresolved in the other trial volunteer.

No placebo recipients developed the condition.

The good news is the article mentions this:

Tinnitus events were not mentioned in FDA briefing documents on the vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer and BioNTech.

Maybe we should just stay away from the J&J vaccine.

 

[Jack Straw]

Based on this thread:

Share Your Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccine Experience: Any Impact on Your Tinnitus or Hyperacusis?

I took some numbers based on this thread and how people reacted to the vaccines. I didn't include those who didn't specify which one was taken.

To define some criteria; Temporary changes are less than 2 weeks and long term changes are more than 2 weeks.

Pfizer:
No Change: 11
Temporary Change: 1
Long Term Change: 1

Moderna:
No Change: 5
Temporary Change: 5
Long Term Change: 4

It seems like Pfizer is the vaccine of choice based on this small sample. I would be interested to see how this changes the more people take it.

I encourage everyone who has "long term changes" to keep following up so we can track it.

 

[nocticolor]

Personally I'm wondering about the AstraZeneca as well. I know it's said to be less effective but it's the only one I'd be able to get for the foreseeable future, and I'd rather be 80% protected than 0%. Although I did already have COVID-19, but oh well.

The only thing I'm genuinely worried about is a tinnitus spike...

 

[linearb]

Just curious, but what's your reservation with Novavax? Assuming it gets approved in the US.

If it got approved, probably nothing. It's not an mRNA vaxx but it does the same basic thing of delivering just the spike protein and it looks like they're using a well established platform to do that.

It's just barely even on my radar because it looks like the US will hit 660,000,000 doses in May just based on Pfizer / modeRNA / J&J, so, it's more likely to be relevant in subsequent years if this is already endemic and mutated to the point that we're just going to need annual shots forever like we do with flu viruses.

Personally I'm wondering about the AstraZeneca as well. I know it's said to be less effective but it's the only one I'd be able to get for the foreseeable future, and I'd rather be 80% protected than 0%. Although I did already have COVID-19, but oh well.

The only thing I'm genuinely worried about is a tinnitus spike...

IIRC some of the data making AZ look bad came from South African studies and then other studies have shown a lot more efficiency.

There are a lot of problems with being in a gold-rush mode while also being in the middle of a global health crisis. Getting good, repeatable data without those stressors is hard enough.

As for tinnitus, there's very good evidence that COVID-19 is at least as risky to the ears as any other upper respiratory infection, and probably moreso, so I would definitely be more concerned with COVID-19, personally. I haven't heard any ear effects from anyone I know who is vaxxed, that includes my sibling who has pretty substantial tinnitus from Lyme and playing fiddle all the time.

 

[PeteJ]

There's no good reason to get vaccinated.

 

[Jack Straw]

There's no good reason to get vaccinated.

Please stop posting in these threads. We all know you think COVID-19 is a hoax so move on. We don't need to hear about it.

Some of us, who have permanent damage from COVID-19, find posts like these extremely offensive and enraging. This is just like people who talk down about tinnitus because they have never experienced it.

 

[twa]

Yes, politicians have warned that we will have to continue wearing masks even when most of the population is vaccinated.

They actually do not know for how long the vaccine can prevent being infected by COVID-19.

Not in Texas, unfortunately.

 

[AliasM]

I won't be getting the vaccine. I am in such a state of panic, I am too scared to even eat or take drugs that may help me so I won't be taking a new vaccine that may not help me. I say that from a position of privilege though. We have little to no COVID-19 in all of Australia, and in my state, we haven't had a case of community transmission since like June 2020. For the most part, life was back to normal a long time ago. If I lived where COVID-19 was rife, I would certainly reconsider my position but for now, it's a very firm no.

 

[hans799]

I'll most likely be offered the first dose of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine in the next 4-5 weeks. I'll take it gladly, COVID-19 is literally neurotoxic and has caused or increased tinnitus in many people, plus it regularly kills even healthy 30-somethings like me; the choice is between getting COVID-19, getting the vaxx or staying home until herd immunity (1+ years) and out of these by far the least shitty option is the vaccine.

 

[Juan]

I won't be getting the vaccine. I am in such a state of panic, I am too scared to even eat or take drugs that may help me so I won't be taking a new vaccine that may not help me. I say that from a position of privilege though. We have little to no COVID-19 in all of Australia, and in my state, we haven't had a case of community transmission since like June 2020. For the most part, life was back to normal a long time ago. If I lived where COVID-19 was rife, I would certainly reconsider my position but for now, it's a very firm no.

I am with you too. I am not getting vaccinated.

In Spain there have been many cases of secondary effects and high fevers after getting the vaccines and I am not going through that, just to avoid a situation where I would have those same symptoms only if I catch the COVID-19.

On these forums several people have complained about tinnitus spikes and other issues, and I am not risking that either.

 

[Static Sophie 73]

I won't be taking the vaccine - many friends of ours are also not keen. It's not mandatory - main stream news services are reluctant or told not to stray from the narrative but there are many experiencing problems since getting these shots - just dig deeper and you'll find the evidence. As the saying goes - sheep need to be fed information, wolves hunt for it.