2020 US Presidential Election

[Lucifer]

If he's still around, I 100% expect him to run again in 2024. He's not going to just go away.

If he decides to run again in 2024 I feel like most Republicans would not want him to run again depending on if they can find someone else that is better than Trump.

Me personally I think Ivanka or Candace Owens should run in 2024.

 

[just1morething]

If he's still around, I 100% expect him to run again in 2024. He's not going to just go away.

Doubt it.

 

[Born To Slay]

If he's still around, I 100% expect him to run again in 2024. He's not going to just go away.

Eh, I feel like when you lose to Joe Biden, you don't come back from that.

 

[Ryuna]

I believe the reason that lower and lower-moderate income families own significantly less or any at all in the stock market (based on my observations within my family) is due to lack of knowledge about the stock market and misconception that the stock market is for rich people. One can be lower income and start investing. There are a lot of examples/formulas online, such as investing $50 or $100 per month (preferably higher such as at least 10% of one's income) and how that investment becomes significantly higher 30 or 35 years ahead. While a few poorer families do not have money to invest, most can by limiting their expenses such as eating out or buying a cheaper vehicle, etc. It is better to invest as early as possible, such as right after college, to reap the true benefits.

I don't know where you get the notion that poor people frequently eat out or purchase expensive vehicles. I think you need to research the definition of the wood "poor" first.

 

[Juan]

What exactly do you mean by "evading taxes and transferring the tax burden...."? Do yo mean to imply that the rich are engaged in criminal non-payment of taxes, which is punishable by law?

Yes, that's what I mean.

The taxes that Donald Trump does not pay have to be paid by the middle class to balance the budget.

The taxes that FAANG do not pay have to be paid by the middle class to balance the budget.

All this has been allowed by the Trump administration, which is just destroying the middle class.

 

[Luman]

Yes, that's what I mean.

The taxes that Donald Trump does not pay have to be paid by the middle class to balance the budget.

The taxes that FAANG do not pay have to be paid by the middle class to balance the budget.

All this has been allowed by the Trump administration, which is just destroying the middle class.

It is only your opinion that Donald Trump is doing something illegal with taxes, but this is not based on actual laws on the books. If the latter was true, he would be liable for criminal prosecution, something that the Democrats would love. The fact is until and unless he is arrested, tried and convicted, there is no basis on which to state that he responsible for doing something illegal with his taxes.

 

[Lilah]

I don't know where you get the notion that poor people frequently eat out or purchase expensive vehicles. I think you need to research the definition of the wood "poor" first.

If you actually read what I wrote, I did not say that. My comment was on the approximate half of Americans who do not have stocks. ALL of that half is not "poor," and many in that group are able to invest if they choose.

 

[just1morething]

If you are pro-life you have to vote for Trump. Kamala Harris is so connected to planned parenthood it's sickening.

https://www.heritage.org/life/commentary/planned-parenthood-sets-new-record-abortions-single-year

 

[PeteJ]

Lying Biden here.

 

[Luman]

I simply cannot get past the concept that Kamala Harris would not be the Democratic VP choice, had she not been the mistress of Democratic power broker, Willie Brown, a man twice her age who got her the elusive government jobs that started her political career. I guess she has just as much right to be sleazy, as men, but this is just too much.

 

[Juan]

I believe the reason that lower and lower-moderate income families own significantly less or any at all in the stock market (based on my observations within my family) is due to lack of knowledge about the stock market and misconception that the stock market is for rich people. One can be lower income and start investing. There are a lot of examples/formulas online, such as investing $50 or $100 per month (preferably higher such as at least 10% of one's income) and how that investment becomes significantly higher 30 or 35 years ahead. While a few poorer families do not have money to invest, most can by limiting their expenses such as eating out or buying a cheaper vehicle, etc. It is better to invest as early as possible, such as right after college, to reap the true benefits.

I have invested a lot in the stock market, in futures and derivatives, and in stocks, so I know for sure that what you are saying is not true.

I know for a fact, and this is a fact, that it is not possible to make real money investing 100 bucks per month. There needs to be a pretty decent amount of money first to make it grow investing.

So you have to be kidding if you think that for a lower income family the path to wealth is eating pasta every day (cutting their grocery expenses... food, for God's sake) to invest in the stock market.

 

[Juan]

It is only your opinion that Donald Trump is doing something illegal with taxes, but this is not based on actual laws on the books. If the latter was true, he would be liable for criminal prosecution, something that the Democrats would love. The fact is until and unless he is arrested, tried and convicted, there is no basis on which to state that he responsible for doing something illegal with his taxes.

So that's why Trump has been hiding his tax statements from public scrutiny for so many years.

 

[Lilah]

I have invested a lot in the stock market, in futures and derivatives, and in stocks, so I know for sure that what you are saying is not true.

I know for a fact, and this is a fact, that it is not possible to make real money investing 100 bucks per month. There needs to be a pretty decent amount of money first to make it grow investing.

So you have to be kidding if you think that for a lower income family the path to wealth is eating pasta every day (cutting their grocery expenses... food, for God's sake) to invest in the stock market.

Think what you will. No one can help people who are adverse to saving even a bit for their future. If you want to make quick cash which is VERY risky (like you probably do), based on your investments in futures and derivatives, you need money up front.

Investment vehicles like 401ks/IRA/Roth IRAs are based on the investment of small amounts that grow over time (like starting in your 20s and retiring in your 60s, allowing three or four decades for growth).

Here is a reliable calculator one can use to see how investments grow over time.
https://www.daveramsey.com/smartvestor/investment-calculator

 

[Luman]

So that's why Trump has been hiding his tax statements from public scrutiny for so many years.

Keeping your tax statements private is not a crime, or an indication of one, in the United States. The federal government can audit his taxes anytime they please, and I am sure that they have. The public is not in charge of scrutinizing Donald Trump's tax statements, and 99.9% of people would not have the slightest idea or understanding of how to do it, if they spent the rest of their lives trying. Most of them have trouble enough doing their own taxes, and many can't even do that, themselves.

But, if you think that old Biden and his political gold digger prostitute token-minority VP are going to be better leaders, then we'll see how it turns out if they win.

 

[Born To Slay]

Keeping your tax statements private is not a crime, or an indication of one, in the United States. The federal government can audit his taxes anytime they please, and I am sure that they have. The public is not in charge of scrutinizing Donald Trump's tax statements, and 99.9% of people would not have the slightest idea or understanding of how to do it, if they spent the rest of their lives trying. Most of them have trouble enough doing their own taxes, and many can't even do that, themselves.

But, if you think that old Biden and his political gold digger prostitute token-minority VP are going to be better leaders, then we'll see how it turns out if they win.

It's not a crime in the sense that you don't get criminal penalties but if the public wants to judge you for not releasing your tax returns, then that's their right.

I simply cannot get past the concept that Kamala Harris would not be the Democratic VP choice, had she not been the mistress of Democratic power broker, Willie Brown, a man twice her age who got her the elusive government jobs that started her political career. I guess she has just as much right to be sleazy, as men, but this is just too much.

I don't understand why you can't past this. Most politicians have sleazy shit going on and take money from sleazy people. Is it really that surprising someone took a dick for power?

 

[Zugzug]

I simply cannot get past the concept that Kamala Harris would not be the Democratic VP choice, had she not been the mistress of Democratic power broker, Willie Brown, a man twice her age who got her the elusive government jobs that started her political career. I guess she has just as much right to be sleazy, as men, but this is just too much.

Respectfully, it blows my mind (or perhaps it doesn't) that a Trump voter is criticizing the methods that someone gets ahead. A Donald Trump voter.

Trump is the caricature of inheriting riches, opportunities, getting ahead by becoming a compulsive liar. I mean, if you hate Harris as a politician and her policies, I can at least see some logic there.

It's so odd to me how many people in this thread project Donald Trump onto Harris. Harris may or may not be a good politician, but she's not like "omg, notably dirty." It has to because she's a woman -- and trust me, I really, really hate identity politics. It's just so obvious.

I guarantee you if Trump slept with some woman to get ahead, he would be heralded as a charming king. It would be called smart and savvy.

Sorry, if you want identity politics to go away, maybe it shouldn't be so big of a joke. I want identity politics to go away as well. Sometimes the key to achieving this is developing a standard.

 

[Luman]

It's not a crime in the sense that you don't get criminal penalties but if the public wants to judge you for not releasing your tax returns, then that's their right.

I don't understand why you can't past this. Most politicians have sleazy shit going on and take money from sleazy people. Is it really that surprising someone took a dick for power?

Her whole career was started by being the mistress to a married man twice her age. She didn't even try to do it by work or perhaps even take some risks with dirty politics - she simply traded sex for political appointments.

Respectfully, it blows my mind (or perhaps it doesn't) that a Trump voter is criticizing the methods that someone gets ahead. A Donald Trump voter.

Trump is the caricature of inheriting riches, opportunities, getting ahead by becoming a compulsive liar. I mean, if you hate Harris as a politician and her policies, I can at least see some logic there.

It's so odd to me how many people in this thread project Donald Trump onto Harris. Harris may or may not be a good politician, but she's not like "omg, notably dirty." It has to because she's a woman -- and trust me, I really, really hate identity politics. It's just so obvious.

I guarantee you if Trump slept with some woman to get ahead, he would be heralded as a charming king. It would be called smart and savvy.

Sorry, if you want identity politics to go away, maybe it shouldn't be so big of a joke. I want identity politics to go away as well. Sometimes the key to achieving this is developing a standard.

I was not a "Trump Voter" in 2016. I intend to vote for him because I feel that he has done a very good job running the country.

You can say what you want about him, but Kamala Harris' becoming the mistress of a married, though separated, Democratic power broker, twice her age, in order to enter the political arena, is not acceptable. Trump was very popular before he went into politics. I was never a fan, but he has proven over the past three and a half years that he is worthy of the job. Joe Biden cannot even come close, and Harris is a piece of garbage, regardless of her method of entering politics through sexual favors.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

Harris said "What Joe was talking about was banning subsidies, but he will not ban fracking." Harris herself supported a fracking ban during the Democratic primaries."

Stay healthy, Joe.

 

[Lilah]

I don't think it is acceptable for anyone to trade sex for a promotion, men included. It goes against meritocracy and no one should be expected to take this shortcut to get ahead. Although society should treat/look down on both men and women in this regard, they don't. Calling a woman a slut has worse impact than calling a man a slut, which has no impact and sounds like a joke. Unfortunately this is what Kamala is facing on how she got into politics. If a Republican woman got ahead the same way as Kamala, she would get the same treatment.

 

[Luman]

I question why, with the fact that Biden chose this woman to be his running mate, women who consider themselves to be "feminists", admire Kamala Harris. How has her advancement promoted equality of women in politics, when Harris has gone against everything the women's movement claims to stand for, to get to this point? The fact that virtually all women who consider themselves feminists accept this candidate, and many actually admire her, has lowered my opinion of the women's liberation movement substantially. Harris is possibly the phoniest candidate for VP, that Biden could have chosen.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@Zugzug I hope that you get your disability entitlement.

When I was a patient in the ER earlier this year, the same ER were I had work time, it was very noisy and a fire drill happened. That made me realize that I had to retire when receiving tinnitus.

I never seen the Federal government show care for the disabled or elderly under any administration. All I've seen is no understanding, no compassion and plenty of abuse. Nursing homes for the non upper class in California are like rat holes, but yet the federal government gives them 5 star ratings. The horrors that take place in many nursing homes is inhumane. Stories in the ER from family members about the many difficulties in trying to home manage a family member with a condition, young or old with no financial or care assistance. Elder abuse is not monitored or cared about in California. Child protection services is also a joke.

 

[Juan]

Think what you will. No one can help people who are adverse to saving even a bit for their future. If you want to make quick cash which is VERY risky (like you probably do), based on your investments in futures and derivatives, you need money up front.

Investment vehicles like 401ks/IRA/Roth IRAs are based on the investment of small amounts that grow over time (like starting in your 20s and retiring in your 60s, allowing three or four decades for growth).

Here is a reliable calculator one can use to see how investments grow over time.
https://www.daveramsey.com/smartvestor/investment-calculator

No one gets wealthy investing 100 dollars per month, which is what you said.

 

[Juan]

Respectfully, it blows my mind (or perhaps it doesn't) that a Trump voter is criticizing the methods that someone gets ahead. A Donald Trump voter.

Trump is the caricature of inheriting riches, opportunities, getting ahead by becoming a compulsive liar. I mean, if you hate Harris as a politician and her policies, I can at least see some logic there.

It's so odd to me how many people in this thread project Donald Trump onto Harris. Harris may or may not be a good politician, but she's not like "omg, notably dirty." It has to because she's a woman -- and trust me, I really, really hate identity politics. It's just so obvious.

I guarantee you if Trump slept with some woman to get ahead, he would be heralded as a charming king. It would be called smart and savvy.

Sorry, if you want identity politics to go away, maybe it shouldn't be so big of a joke. I want identity politics to go away as well. Sometimes the key to achieving this is developing a standard.

That's why Trump has had to shield behind bankruptcy proceedings so many times. It's the way of taking money from others without having to return it.

Now Trump is also hiding his tax statements.

 

[FGG]

I question why, with the fact that Biden chose this woman to be his running mate, women who consider themselves to be "feminists", admire Kamala Harris. How has her advancement promoted equality of women in politics, when Harris has gone against everything the women's movement claims to stand for, to get to this point? The fact that virtually all women who consider themselves feminists accept this candidate, and many actually admire her, has lowered my opinion of the women's liberation movement substantially. Harris is possibly the phoniest candidate for VP, that Biden could have chosen.

Harris is not a political feminist icon like RBG and she doesn't "represent" in its entirety either equality for women or black voters.

Similarly, if Buttigieg had been chosen, it wouldn't make him a gay icon, but the LBTQ+ community would be happy to finally have major ticket representation (and should be) but it doesn't mean his actions would credit or discredit gay rights. That would be a strange take.

No one cares that she slept with a married man just like no one cares that Trump slept with a porn star while his wife was pregnant with his son. If infidelity is a voting issue for you, then Trump should not be your candidate.

 

[PeteJ]

Harris said "What Joe was talking about was banning subsidies, but he will not ban fracking." Harris herself supported a fracking ban during the Democratic primaries."

Stay healthy, Joe.

Yeah, right. Biden lied about his corruption and his son's corrupt dealings. He also cut off access. Doesn't sound healthy to me.

But, liberals and Democrats can't help but evade and make excuses.

 

[Luman]

Harris is not a political feminist icon like RBG and she doesn't "represent" in its entirety either equality for women or black voters.

Similarly, if Buttigieg had been chosen, it wouldn't make him a gay icon, but the LBTQ+ community would be happy to finally have major ticket representation (and should be) but it doesn't mean his actions would credit or discredit gay rights. That would be a strange take.

No one cares that she slept with a married man just like no one cares that Trump slept with a porn star while his wife was pregnant with his son. If infidelity is a voting issue for you, then Trump should not be your candidate.

I don't think you get it.

Infidelity and prostitution is not "an issue" for me, as far as politics, but it normally is for many. My problem is: If the person you hired to fix your car obtained that position due to sleeping with somebody, would you feel comfortable about it? How about your doctor, the local police chief, etc.? This is the top job in the country, if not the world. Given Biden's age, if he wins in Nov., Harris could very well be in the presidential office before his term is up.

If she'd actually been a prostitute for a while, to make ends meet, this would not bother me that much. The fact that she whored herself out to a powerful, older, Democrat, as the first move in her political career, reveals more about her character than her words on TV or her political career in California. It completely dismantles any supposition of ethics that I'd normally give a candidate.

 

[Lilah]

No one gets wealthy investing 100 dollars per month, which is what you said.

Feel free to quote where I said that. Also, regardless of whether it qualifies as "wealthy" (like multi millionaire), the amount is still worth a lot for most people. Use the calculator.

 

[Born To Slay]

I don't think you get it.

Infidelity and prostitution is not "an issue" for me, as far as politics, but it normally is for many. My problem is: If the person you hired to fix your car obtained that position due to sleeping with somebody, would you feel comfortable about it? How about your doctor, the local police chief, etc.? This is the top job in the country, if not the world. Given Biden's age, if he wins in Nov., Harris could very well be in the presidential office before his term is up.

If she'd actually been a prostitute for a while, to make ends meet, this would not bother me that much. The fact that she whored herself out to a powerful, older, Democrat, as the first move in her political career, reveals more about her character than her words on TV or her political career in California. It completely dismantles any supposition of ethics that I'd normally give a candidate.

If my mechanic had no experience then I'd be a little concerned about it. Luckily, Kamala Harris was the Attorney General and Senator from California. So even if her career started with sucking a dick, her resume is now just as or more extensive then many actual Presidents. Trump had no experience, Obama was Senator for four years, Bush was Governor for six years. I could go on.

 

[Born To Slay]

Feel free to quote where I said that. Also, regardless of whether it qualifies as "wealthy" (like multi millionaire), the amount is still worth a lot for most people. Use the calculator.

I just find it interesting that you are saying that most Americans can afford to invest $100 a month in the stock market. About 30% of Americans live below 2 times the poverty line. That's $52k for a family of four. After spending on rent, food, utilities, car insurance, taxes and health care, they're not going to have $1200 to invest in the stock market.

 

[Zugzug]

I don't think you get it.

Infidelity and prostitution is not "an issue" for me, as far as politics, but it normally is for many. My problem is: If the person you hired to fix your car obtained that position due to sleeping with somebody, would you feel comfortable about it? How about your doctor, the local police chief, etc.? This is the top job in the country, if not the world. Given Biden's age, if he wins in Nov., Harris could very well be in the presidential office before his term is up.

If she'd actually been a prostitute for a while, to make ends meet, this would not bother me that much. The fact that she whored herself out to a powerful, older, Democrat, as the first move in her political career, reveals more about her character than her words on TV or her political career in California. It completely dismantles any supposition of ethics that I'd normally give a candidate.

I don't think you get it. You are casting a vote for the biggest con man in the history of the world and dissecting the living hell out of someone with real qualifications such as experience as a lawyer, DA of San Francisco, California state AG, Senator. Also, I know this triggers conservatives -- who "hate" identity politics, despite basing all of their ideology off of them -- but she is the first African American and Asian American Vice Presidential nominee. You are chalking all of this to spreading her legs. Not like, some of it. All of it. Do you know how ridiculous that is?

Now if you had very high standards, okay, fair is fair. But you are voting for Donald Trump. Trump's dad, Fred Trump Sr., put Donald on 3rd base from the start. Actually, Donald started 2 inches from home plate and managed to squander everything. The reason he is hiding his tax returns is because he doesn't want everyone to know that he's a fraud -- not to mention all of the other immoral misgivings of the sexual nature, including assault and likely rape. Or the fact that he whores himself out to white supremacist groups to get their votes.

The Biden/Harris ticket is the most moderate ticket in the history of the United States. It's premise is literally that they won't rock the boat too hard. It's so unimaginative that it's almost funny that people are getting triggered by this. Biden actually said "nothing will fundamentally change." You can't make this up.

Biden has talked about adding GOP members to his transition team. Biden had two kids serve in the military. Yet they are still going to the playbook trying the same "lock her up" and "they hate the troops" and "they hate police" tricks. It's extremely pathetic.