Those early morning vote spikes seem very strange. The ratio of Biden to Trump votes seems ridiculous in that short time span. No wonder so many Republican Senators want to contest the electoral votes. They need to at least do an audit in the swing states. Listen to what Senators Johnson and Paul have to say, so that the people of both parties can know if there was any significant fraud or not, and get it settled for future elections if nothing else.They've done 69 court cases, how much more can you look into something?
When the courts dismissed the lawsuits of voter fraud, how long did it take for the courts to dismiss the lawsuits after they were submitted? To prove that there was voter fraud, don't they have to investigate it for weeks and months?Here is a question to the Biden supporters.
If you knew that the election was won by fraud, would you even care? Would you press for Trump to take his rightful place? I'm going to bet no.
Stein was scared about Trump when he was elected. Especially on the economy, which he was then proven wrong about by the looks of his comments above.Good article here by Ben Stein.
"I feel scared about Mr. Biden. Really scared. We elected a man we don't even know. He has no platform. No program. We elected him just to be rid of Mr. Trump.
But Mr. Trump was a great president. He was great for the economy, great for not starting any wars. Great for winding down the wars we are in.
He was great for Israel and actually set the Mideast on the path to peace. And now he apparently is being kicked out for no good reason I can understand, just because the all-powerful media went to war with him.
I feel as if we are being led into a dark forest and then into a cave and we don't know what's in that cave."
Dark Days That Leave Me With Foreboding | Newsmax.com
The dark winter is coming.
You don't "know" it was won by fraud. You just *think* you do because Trump is telling you that. And other politicians (and news sources) now make their entire careers appealing to their sycophantic base.Here is a question to the Biden supporters.
If you knew that the election was won by fraud, would you even care? Would you press for Trump to take his rightful place? I'm going to bet no.
Apparently Trump also didn't know the UK was a nuclear power either: Donald Trump 'unaware UK was nuclear power', says former aide
Here is a question to Trump supporters.Here is a question to the Biden supporters.
If you knew that the election was won by fraud, would you even care? Would you press for Trump to take his rightful place? I'm going to bet no.
When you bring a case to court and you don't have evidence, a case is dismissed.When the courts dismissed the lawsuits of voter fraud, how long did it take for the courts to dismiss the lawsuits after they were submitted? To prove that there was voter fraud, don't they have to investigate it for weeks and months?
Why did they dismiss the lawsuits so quick? It should be taking weeks and months to investigate to find out if there was voter fraud.
I would. It's just that the courts and the fact checkers have overwhelmingly rejected the fraud notions. But if things were different and they had real evidence that could stand in court, then yes I'd say Trump should stay President. In that circumstance, it'd be the right thing to do.Here is a question to the Biden supporters.
If you knew that the election was won by fraud, would you even care? Would you press for Trump to take his rightful place? I'm going to bet no.
This article is ridiculous. Biden does have a program. You can literally go read anytime you want. I have read it in fact. Trump is the one that on several major policy areas had vague proposals that we didn't know the details for.Good article here by Ben Stein.
"I feel scared about Mr. Biden. Really scared. We elected a man we don't even know. He has no platform. No program. We elected him just to be rid of Mr. Trump.
But Mr. Trump was a great president. He was great for the economy, great for not starting any wars. Great for winding down the wars we are in.
He was great for Israel and actually set the Mideast on the path to peace. And now he apparently is being kicked out for no good reason I can understand, just because the all-powerful media went to war with him.
I feel as if we are being led into a dark forest and then into a cave and we don't know what's in that cave."
Dark Days That Leave Me With Foreboding | Newsmax.com
The dark winter is coming.
I'm not against an audit. Audit until the end of time for all I care. But it's annoying because these people will not believe the audit. Just like they didn't believe the damn court system. They don't believe anything that says Trump lost.Those early morning vote spikes seem very strange. The ratio of Biden to Trump votes seems ridiculous in that short time span. No wonder so many Republican Senators want to contest the electoral votes. They need to at least do an audit in the swing states. Listen to what Senators Johnson and Paul have to say, so that the people of both parties can know if there was any significant fraud or not, and get it settled for future elections if nothing else.
Good point!Stein was scared about Trump when he was elected. Especially on the economy, which he was then proven wrong about by the looks of his comments above.
Ben Stein: 'I don't think Trump knows a goddamn thing about economics' | US economy | The Guardian
He seems very prone to panicking every time there is an election. In the article, he made it sound like the economy was going to collapse under Trump - now he thinks America is being led into a cave.
It was just a hypothetical question, and you didn't answer it. If you knew that it was fraud, would you just look the other way because it would mean no more Trump?You don't "know" it was won by fraud. You just *think* you do because Trump is telling you that. And other politicians (and news sources) now make their entire careers appealing to their sycophantic base.
60 plus court cases later, it appears Trump is the fraud.
Trump has a history of this. In 2016, he said Ted Cruz only won the Iowa primary by "voter fraud." He said the Emmys were "rigged."
You might as well have asked, "question to Scientologists, if you *knew* the truth about Xenu, wouldn't you want the world to know?"
Question to Trumpists: where is all this hard evidence hiding?
Again, why did Trump-appointed lower court judges not see this clear "evidence"?
Why did the Republican Governor and the Secretary of State of Georgia say audit and audit after audit there was no fraud?
Why did the Republican Senator of Pennsylvania who *campaigned* for Trump say he reviewed the case there and there was no fraud?
Are they all "deep state" like Q conspiracy theorists like Majorie Taylor Greene say? I mean hell, Lin Wood (as of yesterday) is now saying Pence must also be "deep state" and executed by firing squad.
All Trump has is the testimonies of a few randos like the woman in Michigan with a rap sheet who lied about being an IT expert, right wing bloggers and YouTubers, and the post office guy in Erie who was arguing over *two* whole votes. The whole thing is massively hypocritical since republicans argued against testimony during Impeachment (saying it was unreliable).
It's not "fishy" that Trump was in the lead in Pennsylvania and suddenly he wasn't. The vote count is always finished in rural counties first. They are smaller. This happens every election. Trump won rural counties and lost the cities. It's only "fishy" because Trump screams it in all caps.
60+ court cases later. No fraud.
Even Giuliani said "this is not a fraud case" in court.
And yes, if there was evidence, I wouldn't want Biden seated. Country over party.
Biden supporters know Biden isn't a God or the "infallible Pope." Trump supporters take Trump's word *literally* as gospel. Even though he's on a Woodward Tape admitting to repeatedly lying to the American people.
Your source is John Bolton. Mustache man!Apparently Trump also didn't know the UK was a nuclear power either: Donald Trump 'unaware UK was nuclear power', says former aide
And this man who wrote his own medical report to prove he was healthy and who also bragged about passing an Alzheimer's test, could have nuked every "person, woman, man, camera and TV".
If it wasn't for anyone correcting him on that, then he could have nuked London and afterwards not have a clue who dropped a nuclear bomb on his residence in New York 5 minutes later. He would probably still blame everything on Obama though.
Don't get me started on hypocrites! Look no farther than the Democratic Party.Here is a question to Trump supporters.
Was there ever going to be a scenario where Trump lost, he admitted defeat, and his sycophantic followers agreed that he lost fair and square? Or is it more like taking the conclusion and working backwards to hope there's evidence?
All the Trump supporters keep talking about fishy "irregularities." Yes, there are 328 million people in the country. If you look into detail of every single vote and every single comment by every single voter -- and you see things the way you want to see them -- things are going to appear fishy to you.
Something that pisses me off so much is that the same people who claim voter fraud with zero evidence are the same people bashing the MeToo movement because people are coming forward "for money" or "for attention." Yet the dude at the Erie post office who recanted his story (according to FactCheck.org)? Well he was cheated of showing that all of democracy is broken in the United States.
Unbelievable. It's really hard to respect people who are such brazen hypocrites. They view the world from a perspective of power and control. Not fairness or intellectual honesty. Always move the goal posts, no matter what.
I don't believe that is the case here. I truly believe that some of the judges are politically biased and that most don't want to be the first one to set a national precedent of overturning or even holding up the election of an American President. At least 2 Supreme Court Justices stood up. One was Thomas.When you bring a case to court and you don't have evidence, a case is dismissed.
If the Trump campaign had evidence, the cases would have been tried.
If I accuse you of murder (for instance) and there is no dead body or even a missing person, there is no case. I can't just say you murdered someone and keep waiting for "evidence" to show up.
We will not get anywhere in a conversation if you honestly believe that Republicans are less hypocritical than Democrats. And no, I am not saying the Democratic Party is free of hypocrisy. We're still talking about a lot in both parties. But I'm sorry, the party of Trump just squashes the discussion.Don't get me started on hypocrites! Look no farther than the Democratic Party.
One of Trump's ideas for education is school choice. Where the parents can choose where their child attends school. That would be a great thing for inner city kids. It's tough though to fight the teacher's unions. I know how strong they are because I used to teach high school.I would. It's just that the courts and the fact checkers have overwhelmingly rejected the fraud notions. But if things were different and they had real evidence that could stand in court, then yes I'd say Trump should stay President. In that circumstance, it'd be the right thing to do.
This article is ridiculous. Biden does have a program. You can literally go read anytime you want. I have read it in fact. Trump is the one that on several major policy areas had vague proposals that we didn't know the details for.
For example, what was Trump's plan for education? That's a pretty big issue that as far as I can see, Trump only had vague slogans for.
I don't have one of those, but I do have a MAGA hat. I can't wear it in public because I'm scared some left wing nut job will attack me.
IMO both parties are hypocrites, yes. The Democrats are more at fault in this matter, Republicans certainly aren't innocent though. One of the biggest problems is that the left has nearly the entire mainstream media in their corner fighting for them. There seems to be no unbiased reporting these days. Something like 90% of the coverage of Trump has been negative. Some studies looked at it. Can you see why people on the right are skeptical?We will not get anywhere in a conversation if you honestly believe that Republicans are less hypocritical than Democrats. And no, I am not saying the Democratic Party is free of hypocrisy. We're still talking about a lot in both parties. But I'm sorry, the party of Trump just squashes the discussion.
Lower court judges that Trump appointed himself are politically motivated and ignore all that "evidence" (that turns out to be false)?I don't believe that is the case here. I truly believe that some of the judges are politically biased and that most don't want to be the first one to set a national precedent of overturning or even holding up the election of an American President. At least 2 Supreme Court Justices stood up. One was Thomas.
Yeah I know, but that's as far as he got. He never explained how School Choice would work under his vision. Some questions that he never bothered to answer:One of Trump's ideas for education is school choice. Where the parents can choose where their child attends school. That would be a great thing for inner city kids. It's tough though to fight the teacher's unions. I know how strong they are because I used to teach high school.
No, the two justices said that Texas had jurisdiction but the case was still BS. They didn't in anyway stand up for Trumps allies and based on their statements, would not have voted to overturn anything.I don't believe that is the case here. I truly believe that some of the judges are politically biased and that most don't want to be the first one to set a national precedent of overturning or even holding up the election of an American President. At least 2 Supreme Court Justices stood up. One was Thomas.
It's odd to me what your criticisms of the Democratic Party are. Most people think the biggest problem with the Democratic Party is that they are too weak and enabling. As in, they are so sensitive to hypocrisy and proving themselves to Republicans, that they just cave nonstop.IMO both parties are hypocrites, yes. The Democrats are more at fault in this matter, Republicans certainly aren't innocent though. One of the biggest problems is that the left has nearly the entire mainstream media in their corner fighting for them. There seems to be no unbiased reporting these days. Something like 90% of the coverage of Trump has been negative. Some studies looked at it. Can you see why people on the right are skeptical?
To top things off, the Democrats have weaponized government agencies such as the FBI and IRS.
It's like if someone were to claim they flipped a coin 10 times and got tails 9 of those times.Those early morning vote spikes seem very strange. The ratio of Biden to Trump votes seems ridiculous in that short time span. No wonder so many Republican Senators want to contest the electoral votes. They need to at least do an audit in the swing states. Listen to what Senators Johnson and Paul have to say, so that the people of both parties can know if there was any significant fraud or not, and get it settled for future elections if nothing else.
I just think an audit would be good for all voters so we can move on without some being skeptical. Maybe there was minimal fraud that wouldn't affect the election? There appears to be some fraud according to the court hearings in Atlanta.I'm not against an audit. Audit until the end of time for all I care. But it's annoying because these people will not believe the audit. Just like they didn't believe the damn court system. They don't believe anything that says Trump lost.