2020 US Presidential Election

I didn't realize Kelly Loeffler and her husband were worth $800 million. I would never had guessed that. Lot of people don't like the wealthy, or maybe that's just what I think. I was just siding with the Republic Party and didn't research the candidates much.
 
It really hurts my eyes when I read this stuff that people see socialism as a derogatory slur in certain countries. If it hadn't been for socialism, you wouldn't have public libraries, military, accessible public schools, public museums, national parks, interstate high ways, postal service; things that are highly valued in pretty much every country on this freaking planet.
Do you personally know some Russians or been to Russia before? One of the things that surprised me the most is that every single Russian elder I have spoken to said that life under socialism was better than current day Russia. I used to work with some Serbians that spoke highly of the socialist days and if I recall correctly, I remember seeing some statistics saying over 80% of Serbians said life was better in the old days under socialism.

I know some people will say it's just old people with nostalgia, but the Russian elders aren't always wrong either because I have researched about this where technically Russians today eat less food than they did under socialism. That and the fact they lived in the best and worst times of the country to make a fair judgement. Even the CIA said Soviet citizens ate the same amount of food as American citizens except apparently Soviet diet was more nutritious. CIA have their bias and motivation to lie as they have done before multiple times, yet here's their report not showing their rivals as a starving country and you can even find the PDF on their website:

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Russians consume 700 calories a day fewer now than at the end of Soviet times

I can't find the original video of this, but I found this re-upload which hopefully helps explain what I was on about:

 
The world is going to throw a big party when Donald Trump is gone!
Maybe the wonderful people of Europe will start WWIII while they're at it, and kill another hundred million people, like they did in the 20th century. Goddamn hypocritical, pompous fools, to think they're better than thou.
 
Well, 30% of the votes are reported. Current score:

Warnock: 51.6%
Loeffler: 48.4%

Ossoff: 51.3%
Perdue: 48.7%

To quote our highly intellectual President, STOP THE COUNT!

Why? Because my team is winning! Any other outcome is because of funny business!

To quote our President elect: ZZZZzzzzzzz
 
40% reporting and both Democrats are leading by over 180,000 votes over their Republican counterparts.

Republicans most likely will lose control of the US Senate.
 
Well, 30% of the votes are reported. Current score:

Warnock: 51.6%
Loeffler: 48.4%

Ossoff: 51.3%
Perdue: 48.7%

To quote our highly intellectual President, STOP THE COUNT!

Why? Because my team is winning! Any other outcome is because of funny business!

To quote our President elect: ZZZZzzzzzzz
40% reporting and both Democrats are leading by over 180,000 votes over their Republican counterparts.

Republicans most likely will lose control of the US Senate.
One thing to be cautious of is that this is a lot of early vote, the GOP could still come back and win at least one.
 
Prediction:

If the Democrats win: Trumpers will say "see, it's rigged again"

If the Republicans win: Trumpers will say "see, this is how Georgia would have been in the Presidential race if it was fair."

In other words, "heads Trump won, tails Democrats really lost."
 
I do not agree that Bernie Sanders' social policies would inevitably lead to bankruptcy. Last time I checked, not every country that has embraced ''socialist'' social democratic policies has turned into Venezuela. More ''equal'' countries with social democratic principles (e.g. public healthcare, accessible education, women quotum, high trade union membership, high public investment in infrastructure), such as Sweden, Norway and Denmark, are one of the best places to live, work and grow old and score higher on those categories than Anglo-American pro capitalist economies.
Life in Venezuela was already terrible in the 80s and 90s (riots were daily and Venezuela's society showed signs of collapsing). So it's not as simple as people make it out to be, as you have to analyse the situation and history. There's actually some data showing that life got better when that left wing party came into power which you can research about. It got worse when there was sanctions imposed on their biggest money maker (oil) which really crippled their economy because it was their main money maker. They even have to deal with pirate-like actions:

US sells oil seized from Iran to Venezuela for $40 million
I would avoid using USNews for data as their aren't very accurate in a lot of ways. It puts Canada as 1st, but I have some relatives who left Canada for Australia who said the life quality is way better over there as they have double the amount of paid holiday off work (spooky socialist policy that Bernie Sanders advocates for) with still higher salaries. The inequality human development index is better and more objective even though it does have its flaws, but its better at determining quality of life:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI

Norway: 1st
Australia: 11th
Canada: 17th
USA: 28th

I have mentioned it before but the way Norway organises its economy has some similarities to some previous and current socialist states. They use the methods of state capitalism which was a term invented by socialists. It's something to do with it being used to develop full socialism because apparently state capitalism is one step towards it like how the Soviet Union had a more free market economy at the beginning with that NEP policy.

Even the State Capitalism Wikipedia page uses Norway as an example being used in the 21st century along with an already existing communist country today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
 
You know why that is? Right now there's no such thing as the "free press" when only a small group of people has control of it, and that group has similar interests that contradict everyone else's interests here which means they're willing to screw you over if it serves their interest. Technically they have control over speech too with stuff like social media websites:

Things like this disproves there's democracy in most societies:

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Related to the Media, but watch this as it's quite a known interview. What I said also includes pumping out propaganda for the purpose of destroying nations that show any signs of resistance. At one point this CIA agent says "We didn't know a single atrocity committed by the [Not going to spoil it. Just watch the full thing]":

There's a huge list of examples of invented realities, but it has happened before when they made up stories about WMD's in Iraq more recently and this which is a proven made up story that involves babies in incubators:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

Basically don't believe everything you hear from the media, especially if it's about a country that is a "enemy".
Hi, I enjoy your writing style, enthusiasm and humor.
Something like 250 newspapers have folded in the last 10 years. Recanting stories for false information was a big deal and would cost a journalist their career in some cases.
Now it's ok to straight up lie about anything and the public sees journalists as trouble makers.

As far as Russia goes, I grew up with Russians and x Soviet block countries. Nobody had sentimental feelings for the communist state, gulags, Stalin. My family and friends all love the music, literature, art, humor ,culture, but rarely heard them speak nostalgically about the system. There were exceptions... but as a general rule it wasn't romanticized.

Holland, where my brother has lived for decades blew everyone in my family away. The social services, public housing and urban design, quality of life and lack of violence compared to home was eye opening. There's a lot to be said for societies that aren't overwhelmed with violence. I wish the US was more chill.
 
One thing to be cautious of is that this is a lot of early vote, the GOP could still come back and win at least one.
I am thinking this is still a possibility, because I rather doubt Loeffler would be so close to Perdue in terms of percentage.

Then again, I may be underestimating how many people just treat this as a "which party wins the Senate" vote rather than basing it on each candidate.
 
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Also, @Born To Slay, put me down for Republicans probably winning in Georgia. (But please note that it is not my preferred outcome. I'm just super cynical.)
 
Not so fast though Imao, we're a lot further ahead and now it's the GOP that's exhausted a decent amount of their votes and there's still tons of votes in the Democrats' strongholds. I think the Democrats are going to comeback and soon.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html

The NYT is still projecting Democrats win.
You're right of course, but I think @aot and I are just trying not to get our hopes up :D
 
Not so fast though Imao, we're a lot further ahead and now it's the GOP that's exhausted a decent amount of their votes and there's still tons of votes in the Democrats' strongholds. I think the Democrats are going to comeback and soon.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html

The NYT is still projecting Democrats win.
Is there a third troll option, where it's a split ticket but Romney says "screw this, I'm a Dem now?"
 
Hi, I enjoy your writing style, enthusiasm and humor.
Something like 250 newspapers have folded in the last 10 years. Recanting stories for false information was a big deal and would cost a journalist their career in some cases.
Now it's ok to straight up lie about anything and the public sees journalists as trouble makers.

As far as Russia goes, I grew up with Russians and x Soviet block countries. Nobody had sentimental feelings for the communist state, gulags, Stalin. My family and friends all love the music, literature, art, humor ,culture, but rarely heard them speak nostalgically about the system. There were exceptions... but as a general rule it wasn't romanticized.

Holland, where my brother has lived for decades blew everyone in my family away. The social services, public housing and urban design, quality of life and lack of violence compared to home was eye opening. There's a lot to be said for societies that aren't overwhelmed with violence. I wish the US was more chill.
You write well buddy! Better than me. How's your noise? I have my standard static. Maybe I'll try apps on my iPhone. Do you mask @Daniel Lion or grin and bear it?
 
If the Dems win, then it means that a romance novelist saved America.
 

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