2020 US Presidential Election

[Juan]

Be careful with those politicians. In Spain our useless politicians are already proposing to create another "bad bank" for all the unpaid credit given during the pandemic, and we're talking a shitload of money here.

Of course Credit Suisse's collapse (ahhh, those "responsible" Swiss people) will be much bigger and, in time, will send shockwaves through the global financial industry.

Take into account the problems at Credit Suisse started 2 years ago with Archegos, Greensill etc.

There must be tons of bad loans under the carpet. Let's see how things unravel in a few years... There are more banks that will collapse.

 

[Juan]

I see many people from New York despise Trump because of his past business dealings. I suppose @Luman would would know of this being he's from there. I guess I just judge him from his policies when he was President vs Biden. I thought he was a better choice than a career politician, regardless of his faults.

Trump's little faults as president included de-regulating banks like Silicon Valley Bank, which just collapsed. It was a BAD idea.

Biden has also broken the law when he bailed out those California millionaires who stored their millions at Silicon Valley Bank. Why did he go over the legal limit of USD 250.000 guaranteed per depositor? Were those California billionaires in need of being rescued again?

Crybabies like Calacanis were yelling and crying on social media for a bailout. Those are the "Big Tech" entrepeneurs who "do not need the government" except when they screwed up and are totally broke: these are sociopaths that do not pay taxes, that run monopolistic businesses, that abuse small companies, that break all possible laws and then have to be bailed out with taxpayers' money or the FEDs money. CRYBABIES IN THE END!

Why aren't antitrust laws enforced in the US and Europe against Big Tech? Why is Big Tech NOT paying taxes while everyone else pays?

 

[Jammer]

@Juan, I'd answer your questions, but I don't think you want answers. Maybe post in the financial thread instead of here.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Jammer]

From Elon Musk, on Twitter.

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The arrest of Trump is supposed to happen on Tuesday per the Orange bigot himself. Looking forward to the shenanigans.

 

[Luman]

The arrest of Trump is supposed to happen on Tuesday per the Orange bigot himself. Looking forward to the shenanigans.

Law experts and attornies are saying that this is purely political. Several people online have told me that if he is arrested, they will vote for him in 2024, even though they had not planned to. Elon Musk has said that if they arrest Trump, he will win by a landslide in 2024, should he run.

It is believed that Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has been pressured into prosecuting Trump. It is not known who is doing this, but if it were up to him, I think the case would not move forward.

If I were Trump I'd have people about 8 degrees away from myself hire private detectives to dig up dirt on Bragg, if there is anything. He'd better be squeaky clean if he is going to make an enemy of Trump, or anybody with his power.

 

[Jammer]

Law experts and attornies are saying that this is purely political. Several people online have told me that if he is arrested, they will vote for him in 2024, even though they had not planned to. Elon Musk has said that if they arrest Trump, he will win by a landslide in 2024, should he run.

It is believed that Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has been pressured into prosecuting Trump. It is not known who is doing this, but if it were up to him, I think the case would not move forward.

If I were Trump I'd have people about 8 degrees away from myself hire private detectives to dig up dirt on Bragg, if there is anything. He'd better be squeaky clean if he is going to make an enemy of Trump, or anybody with his power.

So, many people say... sounds convincing. Especially the smear campaign... again, the MAGA got-to plan to deflect. Certainly a way to get to what happened... yup.

"It's a Democratic plot to make Trump more appealing to Republican voters so they can run against him." Right...

Seriously. These are financial crimes. There are paper trails. A grand jury has determined probable cause, and a trial jury will determine guilt. This isn't some ambiguous case brewed up by conniving politicians. Anyone breathlessly defending him and trying to make that the narrative before even seeing the evidence or charges is being blatantly partisan.

The moron cult of American conservatism is losing its mind, and will immediately chain itself to the sinking ship of this criminal asshole so they can own the libs with their colossal victim complex. And in doing so, they're going to throw away any chance they have to win the next election. You reap what you sow.

 

[just1morething]

 

[Luman]

So, many people say... sounds convincing. Especially the smear campaign... again, the MAGA got-to plan to deflect. Certainly a way to get to what happened... yup.

"It's a Democratic plot to make Trump more appealing to Republican voters so they can run against him." Right...

Seriously. These are financial crimes. There are paper trails. A grand jury has determined probable cause, and a trial jury will determine guilt. This isn't some ambiguous case brewed up by conniving politicians. Anyone breathlessly defending him and trying to make that the narrative before even seeing the evidence or charges is being blatantly partisan.

The moron cult of American conservatism is losing its mind, and will immediately chain itself to the sinking ship of this criminal asshole so they can own the libs with their colossal victim complex. And in doing so, they're going to throw away any chance they have to win the next election. You reap what you sow.

Trump will profit from this, just watch, he always does. Even if he is convicted of a felony, it doesn't matter.

They should handcuff him, and make him do the "Perp Walk", on TV, for the world to see. In NYC, where the District Attorney has changed the laws so that violent criminals can flash a weapon, yet not be arrested, while a man who spent his own money to pay off a blackmailer, is being charged with a crime. If Trump had not declared that he is planning to seek the Republican nomination for President in 2024, this indictment would never even have been considered, and the DA himself has been said to be against it. The fact that NYC is doing this, will not be lost on the world. It will be a Win for Trump.

In the meantime, a man who used the population of the entire world as guinea pigs for his virus and drug experiments, is receiving a $400,000 a year government pension, while Biden delays the release of the classified COVID-19 documents, requested by unanimous, bipartisan agreement, which could provide important information. Biden cannot delay this forever, and if he does not act on it in within 10 days (which is not 10 straight days in a row), Congress can release the documents, themselves.

 

[Jammer]

Trump will profit from this, just watch, he always does. Even if he is convicted of a felony, it doesn't matter.

They should handcuff him, and make him do the "Perp Walk", on TV, for the world to see. In NYC, where the District Attorney has changed the laws so that violent criminals can flash a weapon, yet not be arrested, while a man who spent his own money to pay off a blackmailer, is being charged with a crime. If Trump had not declared that he is planning to seek the Republican nomination for President in 2024, this indictment would never even have been considered, and the DA himself has been said to be against it. The fact that NYC is doing this, will not be lost on the world. It will be a Win for Trump.

In the meantime, a man who used the population of the entire world as guinea pigs for his virus and drug experiments, is receiving a $400,000 a year government pension, while Biden delays the release of the classified COVID-19 documents, requested by unanimous, bipartisan agreement, which could provide important information. Biden cannot delay this forever, and if he does not act on it in within 10 days (which is not 10 straight days in a row), Congress can release the documents, themselves.

It will be the most beautiful arrest of all time. Many people are saying.

Trump is getting bored and seeing his support dwindle. By drumming up this story he can reengage his base AND play the victor when nothing happens Tuesday.

But if that's not the case, Trump won't get the standard treatment when he's arrested and there will be no perp walk or cuffs. Any arrest will be coordinated with the secret service. It will just be paperwork basically. Trump will use the indictment to rile up his supporters. They'll screech like normal. And that's it.

But after the "arrest", Trump will offer, to you his fine MAGAs, the opportunity to purchase a Donald Trump T-Shirt with his mugshot adorned on it, along with a new set of coffee mugs and coasters, area rug, shower curtain, welcome mat, body pillow, full car wrap, custom bowling ball and print toilet paper. Don't forget to purchase the digital art; now thats an investment.

Please let us know how the protest goes on Tuesday. I'm sure any self-respecting Trump supporter will be there, especially you, since you live so close.

 

[Luman]

It will be the most beautiful arrest of all time. Many people are saying.

Trump is getting bored and seeing his support dwindle. By drumming up this story he can reengage his base AND play the victor when nothing happens Tuesday.

But if that's not the case, Trump won't get the standard treatment when he's arrested and there will be no perp walk or cuffs. Any arrest will be coordinated with the secret service. It will just be paperwork basically. Trump will use the indictment to rile up his supporters. They'll screech like normal. And that's it.

But after the "arrest", Trump will offer, to you his fine MAGAs, the opportunity to purchase a Donald Trump T-Shirt with his mugshot adorned on it, along with a new set of coffee mugs and coasters, area rug, shower curtain, welcome mat, body pillow, full car wrap, custom bowling ball and print toilet paper. Don't forget to purchase the digital art; now thats an investment.

Please let us know how the protest goes on Tuesday. I'm sure any self-respecting Trump supporter will be there, especially you, since you live so close.

The arrest of Trump for a bookkeeping error in NYC, where crime is rampant due to Woke Democratic leadership locally and nationally is only going to hurt the Democrats. It may be downplayed or canceled, as many are saying it should be, including Democrats.

I have explained many times on this thread that I would prefer younger, qualified candidates for the presidential race, but if Biden and Harris are nominated in 2024, and Trump is running against them, I will vote for him - that is, if there's anything left of the country after Biden gets through with it. If he wins in 2024, Harris will likely become president at some point due to Biden's age, and, as bad as Biden is, she is even worse.

Why has Biden not signed the bill to release the COVID-19 intelligence, after unanimous bipartisan support for it? This article discusses the issue:

Opinion: Release the COVID-19 intelligence

This case against Trump is not about justice, it is based on the fear that Trump will win again, in 2024, and is an attempt to stop him. If the Democrats had any common sense, they would ditch Biden and Harris, and choose a pair of qualified candidates that could defeat Trump, or most any other Republican candidate, in a landslide.

The corpulent DA of NYC, Alvin Bragg, who has been placed in charge of this farce of a case, is going to wish that he never heard Trump's name if this goes as planned.

If the Democrats were to clean up their act, dump Biden and Harris, and replace them with qualified candidates, I would certainly consider voting for them, but I would never vote for the present leader, whether he ditches Harris or not.

 

[Jammer]

The arrest of Trump for a bookkeeping error in NYC, where crime is rampant due to Woke Democratic leadership locally and nationally is only going to hurt the Democrats. It may be downplayed or canceled, as many are saying it should be, including Democrats.

I have explained many times on this thread that I would prefer younger, qualified candidates for the presidential race, but if Biden and Harris are nominated in 2024, and Trump is running against them, I will vote for him - that is, if there's anything left of the country after Biden gets through with it. If he wins in 2024, Harris will likely become president at some point due to Biden's age, and, as bad as Biden is, she is even worse.

Why has Biden not signed the bill to release the COVID-19 intelligence, after unanimous bipartisan support for it? This article discusses the issue:

Opinion: Release the COVID-19 intelligence

This case against Trump is not about justice, it is based on the fear that Trump will win again, in 2024, and is an attempt to stop him. If the Democrats had any common sense, they would ditch Biden and Harris, and choose a pair of qualified candidates that could defeat Trump, or most any other Republican candidate, in a landslide.

The corpulent DA of NYC, Alvin Bragg, who has been placed in charge of this farce of a case, is going to wish that he never heard Trump's name if this goes as planned.

If the Democrats were to clean up their act, dump Biden and Harris, and replace them with qualified candidates, I would certainly consider voting for them, but I would never vote for the present leader, whether he ditches Harris or not.

Trump is having trouble scaring his base sufficiently enough that now people are recognizing that the Jan 6ers are still being rounded up and thrown in jail and Trump is decidedly NOT paying their legal bills. His begging has generated mostly muted reactions from supporters, with even some of his most ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time.

I think his supporters were quite surprised when they found out they could be reported to the FBI by their family, fired by their work and jailed for a little "light" insurrection and then have some people believe they were actually ANTIFA. So yeah maybe the resolve is gone.

The funny thing about getting indicted by a grand jury is that it doesn't just happen out of nowhere. It's not a "witch hunt" that happens arbitrarily because people don't like you.

The entire purpose of the grand jury in the United States is to eliminate malicious prosecutions. It's like requiring a trial just to bring a charge. If you get indicted, there was ample evidence to convince 23 people that you probably committed a crime.

When you go tomorrow, I hope there's a corridor of people chanting "lock him up" as the motorcade moves down Broadway for the booking. Please let us know.

BTW, you're using woke wrong, among other things. 60% believe the word "woke" means being informed, educated, and aware of social injustices. But I'm sure you have a different definition, because of course you do.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

After reading these arguments I've decided to go from ultra MAGA to Democrat. I'm going to a dark retreat now.

Thank you.

 

[Luman]

Trump is having trouble scaring his base sufficiently enough that now people are recognizing that the Jan 6ers are still being rounded up and thrown in jail and Trump is decidedly NOT paying their legal bills. His begging has generated mostly muted reactions from supporters, with even some of his most ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time.

I think his supporters were quite surprised when they found out they could be reported to the FBI by their family, fired by their work and jailed for a little "light" insurrection and then have some people believe they were actually ANTIFA. So yeah maybe the resolve is gone.

The funny thing about getting indicted by a grand jury is that it doesn't just happen out of nowhere. It's not a "witch hunt" that happens arbitrarily because people don't like you.

The entire purpose of the grand jury in the United States is to eliminate malicious prosecutions. It's like requiring a trial just to bring a charge. If you get indicted, there was ample evidence to convince 23 people that you probably committed a crime.

When you go tomorrow, I hope there's a corridor of people chanting "lock him up" as the motorcade moves down Broadway for the booking. Please let us know.

I'm not going, lol, there's s no point as Trump can take care of himself. The Democrats are running scared, it's obvious that they are terrified that Trump will run against Biden in 2024, and beat him. If he had not announced that he was running, it is highly unlikely that this case would have gone forward. This is not just my opinion, it is that of many, including Democrats. If indicted, he'll come out of it unscathed, but the Democrats won't.

It is a matter of principle, you can't use the law against somebody simply because you don't agree with them. I would say the same thing if this was being done to Biden or other politicians that I generally do not support.

Since you appreciate comedians, such as Biden's pal Zelenskyy, you might want to check out Chris Rock's line about this case, which he expressed in front of an audience that included Nancy Pelosi at a Mark Twain Award ceremony where he was performing. As much as Rock dislikes Trump, he asked if the Democrats are "stupid", for considering this.

"Are you guys really going to arrest Trump? Do you know that this is only going to make him more popular? It is like arresting Tupac. He's just going to sell more records. Are you stupid? He slept with a porn star and paid off someone so his wife wouldn't find out. That's romantic."

Chris Rock Riffs On Potential Donald Trump Arrest At Mark Twain Prize Ceremony For Adam Sandler

 

[Jammer]

After reading these arguments I've decided to go from ultra MAGA to Democrat. I'm going to a dark retreat now.

Thank you.

Don't you have a witty meme you can post about your "conversion"? I'm looking forward to it...

 

[Jammer]

The arrest of Trump for a bookkeeping error in NYC, where crime is rampant due to Woke Democratic leadership locally and nationally is only going to hurt the Democrats. It may be downplayed or canceled, as many are saying it should be, including Democrats.

I have explained many times on this thread that I would prefer younger, qualified candidates for the presidential race, but if Biden and Harris are nominated in 2024, and Trump is running against them, I will vote for him - that is, if there's anything left of the country after Biden gets through with it. If he wins in 2024, Harris will likely become president at some point due to Biden's age, and, as bad as Biden is, she is even worse.

Why has Biden not signed the bill to release the COVID-19 intelligence, after unanimous bipartisan support for it? This article discusses the issue:

Opinion: Release the COVID-19 intelligence

This case against Trump is not about justice, it is based on the fear that Trump will win again, in 2024, and is an attempt to stop him. If the Democrats had any common sense, they would ditch Biden and Harris, and choose a pair of qualified candidates that could defeat Trump, or most any other Republican candidate, in a landslide.

The corpulent DA of NYC, Alvin Bragg, who has been placed in charge of this farce of a case, is going to wish that he never heard Trump's name if this goes as planned.

If the Democrats were to clean up their act, dump Biden and Harris, and replace them with qualified candidates, I would certainly consider voting for them, but I would never vote for the present leader, whether he ditches Harris or not.

About that "bookkeeping error". Of course, if it was a bookkeeping error, why didn't Trump file amended tax returns to correct it? After 6 years he's still deducting the payments as business expenses. Seems Gym Jordan is testing to see if any argument sticks to the wall, like the idea Trump paid to keep Melania from finding out about him boning Stormy and divorcing him. Well, she's known for 6 years now, and she hasn't divorced him. Is Trump going to have Melania put on the stand and have his whole history of cheating discussed in detail to test that defense?

Bookkeeping errors and peaceful tourists at the Capitol building. Sheesh... what were we thinking?!

 

[Luman]

About that "bookkeeping error". Of course, if it was a bookkeeping error, why didn't Trump file amended tax returns to correct it? After 6 years he's still deducting the payments as business expenses. Seems Gym Jordan is testing to see if any argument sticks to the wall, like the idea Trump paid to keep Melania from finding out about him boning Stormy and divorcing him. Well, she's known for 6 years now, and she hasn't divorced him. Is Trump going to have Melania put on the stand and have his whole history of cheating discussed in detail to test that defense?

Bookkeeping errors and peaceful tourists at the Capitol building. Sheesh... what were we thinking?!

The recent video footage of Jan 6 has had a very strong impact on the credibility of the Democrats, and this farce is even more absurd. We will all find out, if the Democrats are stupid enough to proceed, who will be negatively affected more: Trump or the Democratic Witch Hunters. I do not have a crystal ball to foretell the future, but I'm guessing that this case will have no effect on Trump, it will win him more support, it will have a negative effect on the Democrats, or both B and C.

I live in NYC, where Trump is very unpopular, and I have never heard a single person say anything about his extramarital activities, or how he handles them. It is a total non-issue. They simply do not care, and I suspect that most of the country feels the same way, whether they love or hate him. I suppose that there are a few little old ladies with blue hair who will tsk tsk his behavior, but that is not what I would expect from grown men and women in the 21st Century.

 

[Jammer]

The recent video footage of Jan 6 has had a very strong impact on the credibility of the Democrats, and this farce is even more absurd. We will all find out, if the Democrats are stupid enough to proceed, who will be negatively affected more: Trump or the Democratic Witch Hunters. I do not have a crystal ball to foretell the future, but I'm guessing that this case will have no effect on Trump, it will win him more support, it will have a negative effect on the Democrats, or both B and C.

I live in NYC, where Trump is very unpopular, and I have never heard a single person say anything about his extramarital activities, or how he handles them. It is a total non-issue. They simply do not care, and I suspect that most of the country feels the same way, whether they love or hate him. I suppose that there are a few little old ladies with blue hair who will tsk tsk his behavior, but that is not what I would expect from grown men and women in the 21st Century.

No grown men care? Ron DeSantis seems to care and he said this today...

"I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can't speak to that."

I guess he must have heard that somewhere in Florida, since nobody talks about it in New York.

And of course, Trump comes out with his juvenile schoolboy nickname, Ron De-Sanctimonious, and accuses DeSantis of being a homosexual. So nothing to see here, just republicans slinging mud, But it's delightful to see Republicans losing their shit. Just think, we have another 18 months of this to enjoy watching the Republicans burn any hopes of a 2024 win.

All the while Joe Biden stays presidential and above the shit flinging.

 

[just1morething]

@Jammer, @Lane:

 

[Luman]

No grown men care? Ron DeSantis seems to care and he said this today...

"I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can't speak to that."

I guess he must have heard that somewhere in Florida, since nobody talks about it in New York.

And of course, Trump comes out with his juvenile schoolboy nickname, Ron De-Sanctimonious, and accuses DeSantis of being a homosexual. So nothing to see here, just republicans slinging mud, But it's delightful to see Republicans losing their shit. Just think, we have another 18 months of this to enjoy watching the Republicans burn any hopes of a 2024 win.

All the while Joe Biden stays presidential and above the shit flinging.

Nobody cares and there are not going to be any riots in NYC or elsewhere over this, Republicans are 99.% civilized people. Donald Trump called on demonstrators to converge on the capital on Jan 6, and a few thousand, out of 70 million of those who voted for him, showed up, including troublemakers who were only there to create problems which, fortunately, were few.

Joe Biden has his hands full with the impending release of COVID-19 documents that are sure to rile up China, against him.

If the Democratic party had confidence in his ability to win, against Trump in 2024, they would not be carrying out this case against Trump.

This warmongering, incompetent, corrupt, pathetic excuse for a president and his VP need to be replaced.

 

[Elmer B Fuddled]

@Jammer, @Lane:

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Yeah right, the US knows Trump is a "has been". If there were a God, that God would walk away in disgust of such a crooked human.

 

[Jammer]

Joe Biden has his hands full with the impending release of COVID-19 documents that are sure to rile up China, against him.

If the Democratic party had confidence in his ability to win, against Trump in 2024, they would not be carrying out this case against Trump.

This warmongering, incompetent, corrupt, pathetic excuse for a president and his VP need to be replaced.

President Joe Biden signed a bill on Monday requiring the declassification of information related to the origins of the coronavirus. Remember that in 2021, is was Biden who directed intelligence agencies to investigate COVID-19's origins.

Now we'll see what all the fuss is about and can move on to important issues like Hunter's laptop.

 

[just1morething]

Yeah right, the US knows Trump is a "has been". If there were a God, that God would walk away in disgust of such a crooked human.

Billy Graham, his father, was well respected and met with many Presidents during his life, so why don't you respect his son Franklin Graham's statements? I didn't think you would be that interested in US politics if you are from Ireland. Trump isn't perfect, but he's a whole lot better than Biden.

 

[Luman]

President Joe Biden signed a bill on Monday requiring the declassification of information related to the origins of the coronavirus. Remember that in 2021, is was Biden who directed intelligence agencies to investigate COVID-19's origins.

Now we'll see what all the fuss is about and can move on to important issues like Hunter's laptop.

Biden signed a bill that will declassify "as much information as possible about the origin of COVID-19". We can only assume that Biden will not release anything which strongly implicates Fauci or China.

From the news, in italics:

Biden said he shared Congress' goal of releasing as much information as possible about the origin of COVID-19.

"In implementing this legislation, my administration will declassify and share as much of that information as possible, consistent with my constitutional authority to protect against the disclosure of information that would harm national security," Biden said in a statement.

We should have known that he would not release all of the information, being the man that he is, and where his loyalties lie.

Biden signs bill requiring declassification of COVID origins information

 

[Jammer]

Biden signed a bill that will declassify "as much information as possible about the origin of COVID-19". We can only assume that Biden will not release anything which strongly implicates Fauci or China.

From the news, in italics:

Biden said he shared Congress' goal of releasing as much information as possible about the origin of COVID-19.

"In implementing this legislation, my administration will declassify and share as much of that information as possible, consistent with my constitutional authority to protect against the disclosure of information that would harm national security," Biden said in a statement.

We should have known that he would not release all of the information, being the man that he is, and where his loyalties lie.

Biden signs bill requiring declassification of COVID origins information

Sounding disappointed that Dark Biden has deployed the national security cloaking device. Foiled again, ha ha!

 

[Luman]

Sounding disappointed that Dark Biden has deployed the national security cloaking device. Foiled again, ha ha!

Well, they only killed seven million people, Fauci's net worth increased by 5 million dollars during 2020 and 2021, the drug companies made a fortune on questionable vaccines, and now we will try to get at the truth. Was it a raccoon dog, the wet market story, bats, or the Wuhan Virology Lab, where Fauci was funding dangerous research, that was responsible for this outbreak? Two-thirds of Americans believe that the virus came from the Wuhan lab.

Opinion: Release the COVID-19 intelligence

The conomist/YouGov Poll

 

[Luman]

Joe Biden said, in 2020, while campaigning for president, that he would end the COVID-19 crisis and that any president who had as many COVID-19 deaths as Trump did, should not remain as President of the United States of America.

At that time, in October 2020, there were about 220,000 COVID-19 deaths. When Biden took office, in January 2021, the number had increased to about 400,000. We now have over one million COVID-19 deaths, despite the mandates, vaccines, and promises from Joe Biden. Biden not only did not stop the virus, but the death rates also became worse during his term. The virus is slowly dying out due to natural immunity. This is the man who lied then and lies now: Joe Biden.

 

[Jammer]

Well, they only killed seven million people, Fauci's net worth increased by 5 million dollars during 2020 and 2021, the drug companies made a fortune on questionable vaccines, and now we will try to get at the truth. Was it a raccoon dog, the wet market story, bats, or the Wuhan Virology Lab, where Fauci was funding dangerous research, that was responsible for this outbreak? Two-thirds of Americans believe that the virus came from the Wuhan lab.

Opinion: Release the COVID-19 intelligence

The conomist/YouGov Poll

Here is my opinion, which is different to your opinion and everyone else has their own opinion.

The scientific community is saying and has said all along that epidemic evidence still points and has always pointed to a zoonotic spillover from the market. New evidence, after the article attached below was released, has shown that raccoon dogs can carry and spread COVID-19, and the original swabs from the market contain raccoon dog DNA. The only thing we need here is the literal smoking gun, which probably won't ever be found, but I'm sure there will be opinions that the deep state is holding out on them, no matter what is released now or in the future.

Intelligence community basically distrusts China because they have every cause to. China has not cooperated with any efforts to find the source, be lab leak or zoonotic spillover. So the intelligence community is basically saying "China is hiding stuff, but it's classified".

Please keep beating this issue all you want. I'll wait until there is science based data to show conclusions, as opposed to opinions people have with an obvious agenda.

COVID Lab Leak Theory Rises Again

 

[Luman]

Here is my opinion, which is different to your opinion and everyone else has their own opinion.

The scientific community is saying and has said all along that epidemic evidence still points and has always pointed to a zoonotic spillover from the market. New evidence, after the article attached below was released, has shown that raccoon dogs can carry and spread COVID-19, and the original swabs from the market contain raccoon dog DNA. The only thing we need here is the literal smoking gun, which probably won't ever be found, but I'm sure there will be opinions that the deep state is holding out on them, no matter what is released now or in the future.

Intelligence community basically distrusts China because they have every cause to. China has not cooperated with any efforts to find the source, be lab leak or zoonotic spillover. So the intelligence community is basically saying "China is hiding stuff, but it's classified".

Please keep beating this issue all you want. I'll wait until there is science based data to show conclusions, as opposed to opinions people have with an obvious agenda.

COVID Lab Leak Theory Rises Again

The director of the FBI, Christopher Wray, has said that he believes that it was a lab leak. The story is in the Wall Street Journal, with several articles in February 2023. The Energy Dept. also has said that they believe that it started with a lab leak, as well as Robert Redfield, the former director of the Center for Disease Control. Many other qualified individuals and groups agree with the lab leak theory.

Of all the places in the world for this virus to start, it began in a city with a virology lab that performs dangerous experiments. This would certainly be the coincidence of the century if it is true that the lab had nothing to do with the virus. Fauci was funding about 60 viral experiments. Why was he using this lab? Is it because no American research facilities would agree to do this research, as it is too dangerous, or illegal, so he had to go to China, where there are lower standards? It certainly sounds like it.

 

[Rockstar]

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Reading this made me think of some things especially when it mentions banana republics and the constitution. You know how the Patriot Act was criticized and had documentaries made about it by both left and right wing groups? Anyone who isn't a sell out really, but lately there's been a lot of sell outs.

I found this video by the History Channel who I assume is a neutral party in this. Basically to repeat what was said in the video; they kept expanding unnecessary laws that some say violates the constitution. It sets up a situation in the future where you could get investigated over simple speech and get your house raided without a warrant. In corrupt banana republics, sometimes the police plant evidence on you and then you get locked up in private for-profit prisons.



In the UK, there's similar trends with deterioration of rights where the government there practically wants to ban protesting or only allow ones they "approve" of. There was a riot in Bristol about it and riots are quite rare there, so it can't be good. Both UK and US are part of the "Five Eyes" surveillance state.

 

[Jammer]

Trump currently faces four investigations that come with potential charges:

1. Interfering with the transfer of power and his role during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

2. The mishandling of classified documents found at his Florida home.

3. Interfering with the 2020 election results in Georgia.

4. The 2016 hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up an an affair and using campaign cash to cover the expense.

But I'm sure none of these will cause Trump any difficulty by talking his way out of them. Yup, not a problem.