2024 US Presidential Election

[ZFire]

Excellent instruction and history lesson for @Luman to digest; hopefully he'll return more educated.

Now, here is my comment about Trump's current predicament...

Trump is getting a lot of heat from Christian conservatives after saying the issue of abortion should go "back to the states" and speaking out against an Arizona Supreme Court ruling that reinstated a 160-year-old near-total abortion ban.

It's possible he bumbled and stumbled into something that can lose him votes and it has to be terrifying him. One Christian conservative branded Trump's comments "unacceptable and depraved," while another said he "overestimates how secure his evangelical voting bloc is."

Christians seem incapable of understanding that Trump is lying about his stance. They fail to understand that Trump is only bluffing on abortion to try to win the election; once he is president/dictator, he will give Christians what they want.

He's playing a dangerous game with the base he desperately needs. Single-issue pro-lifers are diehard GOP foot soldiers, but they're completely uncompromising. Once you add them to Haley voters and never Trumpers, it becomes incredibly bad for Trump and the GOP.

Conservatives are really eating themselves alive; what was once a buffet became a mere banquet in 2022, and at the rate they're going, it will be a sandwich platter in 2024 and stealing bread loaves in 2026.

Exactly, all Trump and his sycophants do is lie, and what pisses me off is the media plays along with it and debates his positions as if he had any genuine thought at all. No lol. Trump is just doing Trump things. There is no going back from Roe v Wade being overturned. Trump's intentions are loud and clear and anything he says now should be met with skepticism of the highest order.

 

[Jammer]

Trump's father was diagnosed with dementia & Alzheimer's disease, putting Trump at higher risk for the same. I'm afraid that these awful afflictions may have passed from father to son.

Trump gave a speech that bordered on gibberish the night before last at Mar-a-Lago. This time, he bizarrely spouted nonsense that had something to do with New York Attorney General Letitia James — but he was having great difficulty speaking coherently:

They put him into the -- state of New York and then ultimately into the deal -- DA's office to run the case. This is being run by Biden. Uh, they put a man in -- to the state, Letitia Jones, "Peekaboo", I call her. "Peekaboo" Jones. Peekaboo.
They put a man into that one to, uh, Letitia. They put a man into that one to -- run it, and then he went into the DA's office.

First of all, it's Letitia James, not Jones. He's repeated her name correctly how many thousands of times? The guy is obviously having trouble with his mind. He had such low energy that he vigorously gripped the lectern with both hands and appeared to be about to fall over. Sundowning seemed to be taking its toll in the late evening, and it was obvious to all who listened that he was really struggling.

Second, what is he even talking about? They put a guy into the state? To Letitia? To the DA's office? Peekaboo? Can someone explain what he was referring to?

After listening to his speech, it was apparent to me it was unclear what Trump was getting at, and whether he was conflating James with District Attorney Alvin Bragg, or if he was hallucinating James' job and gender.

It seemed like it was the worst I've heard him speak, and I'm truly worried about him and his continued decline. He may not make it to November.

 

[prowlinacage]

First of all, it's Letitia James, not Jones... Peekaboo? Can someone explain what he was referring to?

Trump is a racist. It's plainly obvious. He doesn't even dog whistle anymore, just out there - loud 'n proud. His normalization of it is what binds his supporters so tightly to him. They adore him for it.

 

[just1morething]

Someone said a person voting for Biden this November is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

 

[Jammer]

Trump is a racist. It's plainly obvious. He doesn't even dog whistle anymore, just out there - loud 'n proud. His normalization of it is what binds his supporters so tightly to him. They adore him for it.

I agree that Trump is a racist. What's truly scary is that he has turned the once-respected Republican party into a joke, a new Trump party that is being influenced by his desire to be a dictator and turn the United States into a new oligarchy. And the Republicans are now taking their cues from Russia, as revealed by two leading Republicans who still want America to follow the path of the writers of the Constitution.

Michael McCaul, Republican chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, expressed his concern about Russian influence and his party:

RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA HAS MADE ITS WAY into the United States, unfortunately, and it's infected a good chunk of my party's base."

Michael Turner, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, echoed the same sentiment:

It is absolutely true, we see, directly coming from Russia, attempts to mask communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor.

These comments have not raised any concerns among the conservatives on this thread, either because they've heard them and chose to ignore them or because they haven't been broadcast on their news feeds.

Michael Turner sees the true conflict shaping up for our democracy:

To the extent that this propaganda takes hold, it makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle.

The Republican-controlled House has been paralyzed. Stories leak out that Speaker Mike Johnson, influenced by high-level briefings he's received, has changed his mind and wants to approve the Ukraine aid. Unfortunately for him, Johnson leads a party that contains a passionate "Putin wing," and so he vacillates.

I recall Trump, in 2016, in his infamous phone call with Zelensky, Trump fished out this debunked nugget floated by Fox about CrowdStrike, the company that documented the DNC hack, alleging that the servers had been mysteriously moved to Ukraine so that the FBI could not examine them:

I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike. . . . I guess you have one of your wealthy people. . . . The server, they say, Ukraine has it. I would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.

Per the FBI, there wasn't a shred of evidence that the servers were moved to Ukraine. Recall that when Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Trump's initial response was that it was a "genius" move:

I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, "This is genius." Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine—of Ukraine—Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful.

A normal Republican of the pre-Trump mold would have been outraged at the attempted rape of a peaceful, Democratic neighbor, but not Trump.

Russia's fingerprints are obviously all over the Republicans' failed attempt to impeach Joe Biden, but fortunately for America, the Trump GOP is not just a joke; they are also incompetent bureaucrats that can't recognize when the chickens have already escaped the coop.

Putin seems to have pulled off the most successful foreign influence operation in American history. If Trump were being blackmailed by Putin, it's hard to imagine how he would behave differently.

 

[just1morething]

I watched Speaker Johnson and Trump talk for about 20 minutes yesterday at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. They both have common sense and are worried about election integrity this upcoming election in November.

They think with the massive number of illegal immigrants coming into the U.S. during Biden's term, that they will somehow be allowed to vote without being legal citizens. The Democrats will pull out all stops to stay in power, whether it's illegal or not, unfortunately.

This illegal invasion of immigrants was all intentional and planned by the Democrats, despite the societal ills they have caused.

 

[Jammer]

It's sad when Trump's dementia is on full display, and his cult of personality cheers and applauds his incoherent ramblings.

At least he's been training to instantly switch to the new sentence when the current one turns into a salad, but it's getting noticeably worse. Trump's latest from Saturday night:

Just last week it was reported that an illegal adlinthin-- and you just look at thisss, what's happening"

All he had to say was, "Just this week, an illegal immigrant..." And his MAGAs would just fill in the rest themselves. As soon as they hear "an illegal," they stop listening and focus on their shared hatred. His sentences have become incoherent delivery mechanisms for simple keywords.

Unfortunately, at this point, it absolutely doesn't matter what he says or does. Everything that doesn't fit the MAGA narrative is a lie or scam. There's no reasoning with these people; they're fully brainwashed.

But don't fret, Trump fans. When he arrives in lower Manhattan Monday morning, he'll make history as the first former president to go on trial for criminal charges. Hush money is not the problem; he misused campaign funds. Hooker payments with public donations are illegal, and he'll be convicted.

 

[just1morething]

 

[Luman]

....Hush money is not the problem; he misused campaign funds. Hooker payments with public donations are illegal, and he'll be convicted.

I don't think that the hush money, which was allegedly used to pay the Daniels whore, was from public donations. It was his money in a business account, which is a misdemeanor at worst.

He will be convicted because no juror would dare vote not guilty in a NYC Trump trial.

The actual criminal in this is blackmailer Stormy Daniels, and Trump was the victim.

 

[Jammer]

I don't think that the hush money, which was allegedly used to pay the Daniels whore, was from public donations. It was his money in a business account, which is a misdemeanor at worst.

He will be convicted because no juror would dare vote not guilty in a NYC Trump trial.

The actual criminal in this is blackmailer Stormy Daniels, and Trump was the victim.

You'll remember that this trial stems from his 2016 campaign managers' concern about the infamous Access Hollywood video that played one month before the election. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and interviewer Billy Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab 'em by the lussy. You can do anything."

Trump's attorney, who in 2018 pleaded guilty to federal charges brought against him in this case and spent time in prison, acted out of concern that the alleged extramarital encounters with Daniels and McDougal could harm Trump's candidacy and would cost him the election.

Trump and his attorney knew that if Trump's multiple affairs he had over the years became public just days before the election, he needed signed NDAs in place to quash this information. He's now on trial for criminal financial fraud, which he perpetrated to keep Daniel's, McDougal, and the Trump Tower doorman silent days before the 2016 election. He used money from his attorney to pay Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, the National Enquirer publisher, AMI (owned by Trump crony David Pecker), to pay McDougal $150,000 in a catch-n-kill scheme to bury her story about her affair with Trump, along with paying the doorman $30,000, who had witnessed all the comings and goings.

After Trump won the election, he paid Cohen back with a series of 11 monthly checks. Trump also told his attorney to repay AMI with cash and his attorney insisted that AMI be repaid via a shell company. In the end, AMI thought it was better to get involved and did not accept repayment after consulting with their counsel.

Trump's criminal actions, which are felonies (34 charges to be exact), were committed to hide his affairs from the American people prior to the 2016 election. By casting these payments as compensation for legal work, he "made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise," prosecutors said. Trump did so "with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof...'

Trump will be convicted and will lose the 2024 election to Joe Biden, not due to losing this case, but due to his other, more serious, disqualifications, such as his inciting an insurrection, hiding and refusing to turn over classified records, and trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election illegally; all of which have been underscored and highlighted by his own words and actions.

 

[Luman]

You'll remember that this trial stems from his 2016 campaign managers' concern about the infamous Access Hollywood video that played one month before the election. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and interviewer Billy Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab 'em by the lussy. You can do anything."

Trump's attorney, who in 2018 pleaded guilty to federal charges brought against him in this case and spent time in prison, acted out of concern that the alleged extramarital encounters with Daniels and McDougal could harm Trump's candidacy and would cost him the election.

Trump and his attorney knew that if Trump's multiple affairs he had over the years became public just days before the election, he needed signed NDAs in place to quash this information. He's now on trial for criminal financial fraud, which he perpetrated to keep Daniel's, McDougal, and the Trump Tower doorman silent days before the 2016 election. He used money from his attorney to pay Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet, the National Enquirer publisher, AMI (owned by Trump crony David Pecker), to pay McDougal $150,000 in a catch-n-kill scheme to bury her story about her affair with Trump, along with paying the doorman $30,000, who had witnessed all the comings and goings.

After Trump won the election, he paid Cohen back with a series of 11 monthly checks. Trump also told his attorney to repay AMI with cash and his attorney insisted that AMI be repaid via a shell company. In the end, AMI thought it was better to get involved and did not accept repayment after consulting with their counsel.

Trump's criminal actions, which are felonies (34 charges to be exact), were committed to hide his affairs from the American people prior to the 2016 election. By casting these payments as compensation for legal work, he "made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise," prosecutors said. Trump did so "with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof...'

Trump will be convicted and will lose the 2024 election to Joe Biden, not due to losing this case, but due to his other, more serious, disqualifications, such as his inciting an insurrection, hiding and refusing to turn over classified records, and trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election illegally; all of which have been underscored and highlighted by his own words and actions.

My main point was to question your claim that Trump used campaign finances to pay off a blackmailer named Stormy Daniels, which he did not do and has not been charged with.

 

[Jammer]

My main point was to question your claim that Trump used campaign finances to pay off a blackmailer named Stormy Daniels, which he did not do and has not been charged with.

Here I thought your main point was pointing out how Trump is the poor victim. But I digress...

Joe Biden is leading Trump in battleground state campaigning. Meanwhile, Trump gets left behind while sitting in court all day, every day.

Trump's criminal trial probably won't take more than a month. Most likely, the criminal trial will lead to a conviction that Trump then appeals to the maximum possible extent. Sentencing won't occur yet, and we can fully expect the Supreme Court not to accept certifying it and then sit on it until their next term. Meanwhile, Trump spent all of that time, convicted but not yet sentenced, on the campaign trail from May to November, portraying himself as a martyr and a victim of political persecution. You know, the Victim King.

There is one possible saving grace. Trump's procedural stalling in both Georgia and the DC cases may result in either of those trials not getting fully underway until, like, September. This will curtail his campaign itinerary through obligatory courtroom appearances and/or astronomical legal expenses.

Also, Biden is now leading Trump in ten separate polls conducted in the last month; the polls seem to be moving in Biden's direction. That means even if there is a systemic problem with polling that skews the results in one way or another, the trend is that Biden's odds are improving as we get closer to election day.

Trump Media stock is already down 15% today. Looks like my prediction is becoming true as stock traders know what a loser this meme stock truly is; it is a shame that the unsophisticated Trump lovers will be left holding the bag of pennies.

One of the Trump stock investors, Jerry Dean McLain, bought up hundreds of shares collectively worth $25,000 and spent his life savings on the bad faith of a grifter. In the last two weeks, he's lost half of that money. But he is putting his trust in Trump:

"I know good and well it's in Trump's hands, and he's got plans," he said. "I have no doubt it's going to explode sometime."

You're right about Trump not using campaign funds to gain witnesses' silence prior to 2016. He used his business and private accounts instead, probably the only smart move he made during this mess he created, from which he now gets to enjoy the spoils of in a NYC court.

 

[just1morething]

Most people are more interested in how the country was run under Trump vs Biden and not some affair he may have had in the past. Trump's four years were much better than Biden's 3+ years. The worse they treat Trump, the more his approval ratings will go up. I think Biden's chances of getting reelected President are slim to none, if it's a free and fair election.

 

[Jammer]

Looks like Trump's old age, infirmity and dementia are getting the best of him in court today as reported by Maggie Haberman from inside the courtroom:

Well, Jake, he appeared to be asleep," Haberman said. "His head would fall down. There would be other moments other trials, like the E. Jean Carroll trial, which was around the corner in January, he appeared very still and it seemed as if he might be sleeping but then he would move. This time, he didn't pay attention to a note that his lawyer ... passed him. His jaw kept on falling on his chest and his mouth kept going slack."

Trump walked into court today with a swagger and grin, but the hearing is long and the air is thin. Trump appears to be sleeping, his head keeps dropping down, and his mouth goes slack when the judge looks around. In the land of the free, where the brave still tread, Trump's dreaming of Stormy while resting his head.

When he spends all night rage tweeting into the wee hours of the morning, he's going to need Executive Time to catch up on his sleep. Whether it's in the White House or the Court House, Executive Time will happen.

Remember Executive Time? This an euphemism for Trump's scheduled nine hours a day for the unstructured time that he spent tweeting, phoning friends and watching television that happened when he was president. He was infamous for being completely tuned out of briefings, meetings, policy reviews — anything that required engagement and an attention span. We sure don't want this kind of president again.

 

[Luman]

We now have Iran attacking Israel, in addition to the Hamas horrors, Russia and Ukraine bombing nuclear plants, which never happened during Trump's peaceful presidency.

Trump haters can rant until the cows come home regarding his alleged crimes, but do they believe that the state of the nation and the world have improved since Biden took office?

If Trump paid off a blackmailing whore with money from his business and makes remarks that are in bad taste, are these indiscretions serious enough to keep him out of the White House, and put the current vegetable-in-chief back in, for another four years of the worst presidency of the past 150 years?

This just in: The judge in the witch hunt "hush money" trial may not allow Trump to skip being in court for one day, to attend his son Barron's high school graduation.

 

[ZFire]

What's truly scary is that he has turned the once-respected Republican party into a joke, a new Trump party that is being influenced by his desire to be a dictator and turn the United States into a new oligarchy. And the Republicans are now taking their cues from Russia, as revealed by two leading Republicans who still want America to follow the path of the writers of the Constitution.

Michael McCaul, Republican chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, expressed his concern about Russian influence and his party:

Michael Turner, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, echoed the same sentiment:

These comments have not raised any concerns among the conservatives on this thread, either because they've heard them and chose to ignore them or because they haven't been broadcast on their news feeds.

Michael Turner sees the true conflict shaping up for our democracy:

The Republican-controlled House has been paralyzed. Stories leak out that Speaker Mike Johnson, influenced by high-level briefings he's received, has changed his mind and wants to approve the Ukraine aid. Unfortunately for him, Johnson leads a party that contains a passionate "Putin wing," and so he vacillates.

I recall Trump, in 2016, in his infamous phone call with Zelensky, Trump fished out this debunked nugget floated by Fox about CrowdStrike, the company that documented the DNC hack, alleging that the servers had been mysteriously moved to Ukraine so that the FBI could not examine them:

A normal Republican of the pre-Trump mold would have been outraged at the attempted rape of a peaceful, Democratic neighbor, but not Trump.

Russia's fingerprints are obviously all over the Republicans' failed attempt to impeach Joe Biden, but fortunately for America, the Trump GOP is not just a joke; they are also incompetent bureaucrats that can't recognize when the chickens have already escaped the coop.

Putin seems to have pulled off the most successful foreign influence operation in American history. If Trump were being blackmailed by Putin, it's hard to imagine how he would behave differently.

It's really pathetic and sad that the Republican party went from the hawks that defeated the USSR to the party that does Putin's bidding. It's probably the most impressive fall from grace in American politics I have ever seen. Nothing but MAGA clowns/Putin simps now. Some of them even view Russia as a 'protector of Christianity.' What a crazy reality we have stumbled into...

 

[Luman]

It's really pathetic and sad that the Republican party went from the hawks that defeated the USSR to the party that does Putin's bidding. It's probably the most impressive fall from grace in American politics I have ever seen. Nothing but MAGA clowns/Putin simps now. Some of them even view Russia as a 'protector of Christianity.' What a crazy reality we have stumbled into...

Gorbachev said circa 2007, that the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster caused the downfall of the Soviet Union.

Putin did not attack Ukraine until Trump was gone and Biden was in. War makes money, and Biden is taking advantage of that at the expense of US taxpayers and the victims over there.

Putin knows that he will eventually get a piece of Ukraine, and probably more than he would have if the two countries had sat down at the negotiating tables in the first place, which Biden was, and still is, against.

 

[Jammer]

If Trump paid off a blackmailing whore with money from his business and makes remarks that are in bad taste, are these indiscretions serious enough to keep him out of the White House...?

I'm sure you remember Geoffrey Beman, the US attorney for the Southern District of NY who was appointed by Trump. He is a lifelong Republican who worked on the Trump campaign in 2016 and helped with the president's transition. Trump fired him after twice refusing to resign after he prosecuted Michael Cohen for his part in helping "Individual-1," aka Trump.

According to Berman, Trump's Appointees in the DOJ repeatedly started interfering with his investigation of the campaign finance violations and wanted it to go away. AG Barr not only wanted the investigation stopped, but he also wanted Michael Cohen's conviction on campaign finance charges reversed. Barr told Rob Khuzami, the deputy overseeing the trial, to stop the investigation, and Khuzami's directive was explicit: not a single investigative step should be taken, and not a single document in their possession should be reviewed.

The Attorney General of the United States directed them to dismiss Michael Cohen's campaign finance guilty pleas, the man who implicated the AG's boss, President Trump. Was the goal to ensure the president could not be charged after leaving office?

Sounds to me like the answer to the question posed above is Yes. This isn't something that we had to worry about might happen because it did happen. AG Barr pressured Berman to water down the document, even though many references to Individual-1 were left in the document.

Trump's Justice Department in D.C. made prosecutors in SDNY strip out tons of references to Trump in their court filings. The revised information was cut down from 40 pages to 21, kept all of the charges but removed certain allegations and the most damning charges against Trump in order to protect Trump from this federal investigation.

After twice refusing to resign, refusing to allow Barr to take over the SDNY's office, and refusing to prosecute Trump's critics, including John Kerry, Trump fired Berman. Obama's White House counsel was finally charged by an AG Barr-appointed prosecutor, who couldn't bring the charges Trump wanted because there wasn't any evidence to prosecute, as determined by a grand jury after an unheard of five hours,

Worse yet, AG Barr succeeded in ousting three attorneys in the D.C. attorney's office and installed his own people, who immediately moved to undo the charges against Trump's national security chief, Michael Flynn, and moved to undo the recommended sentence for Roger Stone, who had just been convicted of multiple felonies.

These were scary revelations about the Justice Department under Trump: A federal criminal investigation diverted, delayed, and tampered with, a corrupted federal Justice Department acting to defend the president despite findings of law and fact, while ultimately stopping the investigation into Trump because of its corruption.

After these corrupt federal prosecutors dropped their case against Trump, NY State prosecutors started investigating Trump's criminal campaign violations. We can see the legacy of this corruption in the way the Manhattan DA had to bring charges in this case. The big awkward part of the case is that there's a crime being described here that has never been charged. The crime? The crime that a federal prosecutor said Michael Cohen committed with Donald Trump and Trump's culpability in the crime was perverted by Trump's appointees.

Sitting at the center of the trial today is a big gaping wound and a bonker's revelation that Michael Cohen and no one else has paid a price in this criminal scheme.

This reveals a big flashing red light as to what we Americans can expect from a second Trump term: Trump would likely do more corruption with his compliant Justice system, ignore the rule of law, and upend any citizen's life at the whim of Trump. Trump's actions as president are arguably the worst thing any modern President has ever done to the US Justice system and the rule of law in this country.

Trump must be convicted and voted against, and Joe Biden must elected president to preserve our democracy and good standing in the world. Another Trump presidency would spell ruin for Americans and America.

 

[just1morething]

It's really pathetic and sad that the Republican party went from the hawks that defeated the USSR to the party that does Putin's bidding

Bill O'Reilly thinks it's pathetic that Biden left 10 million illegal aliens in this country, which he estimated will cost U.S. taxpayers $400 - 500 billion. O'Reilly has over a million people watching him, so I will continue to follow his no-nonsense advice. He said Biden is a moron and did more damage to the U.S. than any President in history. He has to be voted out of office so he can do no more damage. The majority of Americans agree with this.

 

[ZFire]

Putin did not attack Ukraine until Trump was gone and Biden was in.

This is blatantly false. Putin has been sowing the seeds of discord within Ukraine for a long time, even during your beloved Trump presidency, buddy. Putin was backing pro-Russian separatists in the Donbas and Luhansk regions, stirring trouble, promoting civil unrest, and ultimately civil war.

War makes money, and Biden is taking advantage of that at the expense of US taxpayers and the victims over there.

A defense budget of over $800 billion PER YEAR. Care to explain how you reconcile this with your faux criticism of "at the expense of the US taxpayers" for me, please?

 

[Luman]

A defense budget of over $800 billion PER YEAR. Care to explain how you reconcile this with your faux criticism of "at the expense of the US taxpayers" for me, please?

With our involvement in Afghanistan winding down, Obama lowered the military budget, which was $582.7 billion by 2016. Still, he was also responsible for a spending spree on nuclear weapons, which cost $348 billion every ten years. This will result in spending at least $1 trillion over 30 years.

While it is true that Trump spent more on the military, it was for self-defense, not to give away to other countries, as Biden is doing. Biden has asked for $850 billion for 2025 - about the same amount as Trump's military budget, with the major difference being that Biden is using a large percentage of the money for wars in other countries, not on national defense. The more he does this, the weaker we become.

The average life span of a car is 12 years. A tank in warfare lasts about six months. Biden works for The Military Industrial Complex, and they prefer war to peace. No matter how much Trump or any other non-hawk president of either party spends on the military, the amount is better spent than Biden's current military giveaways.

 

[Jammer]

Trump Media stock is already down another 14% today, currently below $23 a share. Again, it looks like my prediction is continuing to become true, as stock traders know what a loser this meme stock truly is; it is a shame that the unsophisticated Trump lovers will be left holding the bag of pennies.

Poor Trump, now complaining that he didn't take a snooze during yesterday's federal criminal trial and leaning on that old chestnut of "fake news":

This is 100% Fake News coming from 'journalists' who weren't even in the courtroom

Maggie Haberman reported his nap from the courtroom yesterday. But for Trump, no hill is too small to die on. He's going to gaslight everyone and say nobody saw him napping. Who you gunna believe, an aging old man or your lying eyes?

He's also lying about his request to be excused for Barron's birthday. The judge said it was too early to rule on the matter but that if the trial proceeded as planned, he would be open to excusing the defendant.

I find it hilarious that he uses his kid's graduation as an excuse to get out of court. Allegedly, his son's graduation falls on a day that the court isn't in session, so it seems like another Trump lie. Besides, he's never gone to any of his other kids' graduations.

This guy objectively lies through his teeth nonstop, yet owns a platform called Truth Social.

Wait till he learns he's not allowed to leave a prison cell to win another championship at one of his courses.

 

[ZFire]

While it is true that Trump spent more on the military, it was for self-defense, not to give away to other countries, as Biden is doing.

I'm going to guess you are under the belief that the US is giving Ukraine top-of-the-line brand-new equipment, which is obviously false. The reality is that most of it is surplus old equipment sitting in a warehouse.

While it is true that Trump spent more on the military, it was for self-defense, not to give away to other countries, as Biden is doing. Biden has asked for $850 billion for 2025 - about the same amount as Trump's military budget, with the major difference being that Biden is using a large percentage of the money for wars in other countries, not on national defense. The more he does this, the weaker we become.

Firstly, the overall spending in Ukraine is a small portion when compared against the annually rising US defense budget.

Secondly, you ignore the fact that the bulk of the initial spending on the Ukrainian war effort has been on getting rid of older equipment that would have incurred big expenses to dismantle. Failure to do so would have resulted in wasted billions.

Thirdly, are you telling me that swapping out those older weapons for newer ones does not strengthen our national defense? Please... it not only beefs up our military but also creates job opportunities for Americans. It's a win-win.

Fourthly, this has been one of the most cost-effective wars that the US has fought, helping a country while also putting pressure and strain on an adversary.

I can honestly keep going... Every once in a while, someone here and in the other thread too will bring taxpayer grievances up as an issue against funding Ukraine, and I roll my eyes every single time. You guys fail to understand the positive return on investments it has for the US in destroying a long-standing enemy, who's also an arms-selling rival. We'd be pushing allies into the US supply chain as well. Check out Poland; they are practically tripping over themselves to buy American. This is how you tightened the US presence on the global stage along with its overall success. But at the heart of it, we're just helping another country maintain its independence as a free nation.

By the way, did you catch how I didn't mention US funding for Israeli military actions against Hamas? That's because the GOP and MAGA quietly endorse such aid. That speaks volumes to me and really reveals the hypocrisy behind these fake criticisms of taxpayer money allocation.

 

[just1morething]

Someone told me today that they were surprised somebody hadn't shot Biden by now. He killed Laken Riley.

 

[Elmer B Fuddled]

Someone told me today that they were surprised somebody hadn't shot Biden by now. He killed Laken Riley.

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And the rest of us can't believe the fat farting orange baby hasn't been shot.

 

[Jammer]

Old man yells at cloud:

The gag order is unconstitutional," Dershowitz said on Fox News. "You cannot prevent the defendant from attacking the witnesses, from attacking the judge's daughter, if the judge's daughter could be a basis for disqualification.

Poor Alan doesn't understand that a gag order is a judge's discretionary authority—that's the point of a gag order.

Alan Dershowitz was a respected Constitutional legal expert and long-term Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton in 2016. Then Dershowitz entered the Trump Zone and hasn't been the same since.

It sounds like he needs a bar exam refresher.

There are two types of people when it comes to Trump. There are normal, decent people who detest bullies and, therefore, hate Trump, and there are mentally defective, arrogant bullies who relate to his ham-fisted, disgusting approach to life and adore him for mirroring their defective behaviors.

Remember, the allegations are, in substance, that Donald Trump falsified business records to conceal an agreement with others to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election.

This is why this is not a "hush money" trial. It is an election interference trial, and that's why he's charged with 34 felonies. The media likes to call it the "Hush Money" trial to get eyeballs and clicks.

 

[just1morething]

And the rest of us can't believe the fat farting orange baby hasn't been shot.

I thought Trump had a good four years; that's why I voted for him. Instead, we have a certified imbecile as President because of people who think like you. TDS is worldwide, it seems.

 

[Jammer]

And the rest of us can't believe the fat farting orange baby hasn't been shot.

Trump complained Wednesday that his lawyers were not given "unlimited" chances to reject prospective jurors at his New York federal criminal trial. In other words, the 'rules do, in fact, apply to him.':

I thought STRIKES were supposed to be "unlimited" when we were picking our jury? I was then told we only had 10, not nearly enough when we were purposely given the 2nd Worst Venue in the Country. Don't worry, we have the First Worst also, as the Witch Hunt continues! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!

Poor Trump. He is out of his depth in the criminal justice system. All of his previous experience was in private civil suits, where his opponents had fewer resources. Now that he is facing government prosecutors, he can't run them dry with legal expenses.

He doesn't realize he gets unlimited strikes for things like "That juror just said he hates Trump and wants to see him rot in jail" and have the judge dismiss him. Both sides get ten strikes with no valid justification needed and unlimited strikes with valid justification.

It makes you wonder if his plan was just to cycle through the entire adult population of Manhattan. Next thing you know, he'll want to seat his own jurors, an alternate slate of jurors, if you will.

'Reject all the jurors = no jurors to convict me! Checkmate!'

After asserting endlessly that he's the best-loved president ever, it must be sobering to hear in person that so many jurors hate and despise him so vehemently. The notoriously thin-skinned Trump was forced to listen for more than an hour as the judge reviewed potential jurors' mean tweets and jokes about his appearance, his likeability, his intelligence, and - to use a phrase Team Trump first popularized - whether prosecutors should "lock him up."

Also, poor Trump: he's now shamelessly demanding a 5% cut from any Republican campaigns that use his name and likeness. Normally, most presidential candidates would enthusiastically endorse other Republicans, but for Trump, it's all about the money he needs to pay for his current criminal trial lawyers and for his future criminal trials yet to come.

 

[Elmer B Fuddled]

I thought Trump had a good four years; that's why I voted for him. Instead, we have a certified imbecile as President because of people who think like you. TDS is worldwide, it seems.

Well, first off, I don't think about politics; I don't have to. The BS here is enough, and you certainly show it.

 

[just1morething]

House Republican Representative Clay Higgins really listens to the American people. I'm impressed by this former law enforcement officer from Louisiana.