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I don't know what kind of door it is or how forcefully it was slammed. But if you were upstairs and the door was downstairs then you should be fine. Get a decibel meter so you can see just how loud a sound is in reality.
Door Slam — How Many Decibels?
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I don't know what kind of door it is or how forcefully it was slammed. But if you were upstairs and the door was downstairs then you should be fine. Get a decibel meter so you can see just how loud a sound is in reality.
I posted a picture of the door in my previous post. the door slammed from the wind because someone let the door opposite to it open
TuneOut
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Regardless, what's done is done. If something is bothering you or your ears find ways to prevent it from occurring again. And be aware of any effect that stress or anxiety may have on your ears.
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What if it did? There's nothing you can do about it now. Acceptance is the key.
Please stop arguing with me. I need a rational evaluation of whether it could have caused damage to my ears, given that I was not in the room but given that the slammed door was right below me on the ground floor. You are not helping at all sorry to say but I really struggle with this already and your responses just seem smug.
I really need help evaluating this situation my ear feels clogged now but I dont trust my judgement anymore I am losing my mind
MemberPlease see below discussion of "door slam".
Based on it, eventually you should be OK... giving sometime to recover.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/door-slamming-—-96-db.22369/
Based on it, eventually you should be OK... giving sometime to recover.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/door-slamming-—-96-db.22369/
Hi Buddy, I distinctly remember you after the build up to New Year's Eve had you freaking out, and this was before anything had even happened. You display all the characteristics of being extremely anxious and phonophobic, but this is totally understandable under the circumstances. That composite door has done nothing to your ears. You were upstairs as well, but I'd tell you the same if you were downstairs standing near it. It would have been a short, un-noteworthy, impulse sound. Your belief that it was damaging, is now so hardwired, that you have triggered a psychological reaction to the point where your body is now in over-drive (full CNS response). I know that you will unnecessarily ruminate over this all night, but this is only going to cause you even more unneeded grief, and it will further fuel your anxiety. I have been where you are, brother, fearing sounds like these and then spiking like crazy. It's a miserable existence, but I eventually overcame it and so can you.
I want you to know that you are fine. However, this event will be forgotten and replaced with another one in the near future, and this cycle will never end until you face your demons head-on. Your fear of sound will spiral out of control, and if you're not careful, you could find yourself fearing your own footsteps.
Please do not worry about this door. It's just not worth your time at all. I'd suggest you try and seek some form of help to get you through this difficult stage in your life; you need to regain control buddy. No advice (that anyone can write) will make you feel better when you feel like you are now. I know this because I've been there; totally depressed and full of worry. You need a huge virtual hug and some encouragement
You could try:
• Various forms of psychotherapy
• Cold shock therapy (swimming in cold water)
• Any type of exercise
• Eating a better diet
• Taking up a new hobby to give your brain something else to think about.
• Changing your routine. If you are stuck doing the same things day-in, day-out, then changing your routine can help break those bad behavioural patterns. Doing this can give you some power back.
Ultimately, if you change your ways (which is hard, but certainly not impossible) then you can reclaim your life and banish this overbearing anxiety back to where it belongs: your primitive brain.
Take care and don't let this incident get you down; you don't deserve it at all. You'll be absolutely fine so try and forget about it
In this scenario, I'd say no. He was upstairs when a composite door slammed on the floor below. Noise-wise, it's insignificant, and just doesn't have enough energy to be damaging or to be worth worrying about. It's a classic example of how extreme a persons reactions can become when they are phonophobic and anxious.
Having hyperacusis is often the other reason why spikes occur when exposed to certain sounds. In the vast majority of cases I hear about, though, there is almost certainly a degree of parasympathetic nervous system involvement. And this is induced by an overwhelming fear of sound.
I see that Prednisone was brought up again earlier in the thread. I find it absurd that someone can recommend this hard drug because of a door slamming on a different floor! It wasn't even in the same room. We need to make people feel at ease and not validate their fears by recommending they take this drug every time a non-threatening sound scares them. If it was a serious acoustic trauma I'd be the first to tell them to go to ER and seek emergency help, but not in this situation.
There's so much fear and anxiety on here now that only an outsider is likely to see it. A lot of people are in pretty deep and I really feel for them.
- Mar 11, 2018
- 875
- Tinnitus Since
- 3/18
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise Induced Hearing Loss
That sucks Bill. I've heard you talking about steel doors somewhere here. Can I ask how long the spikes lasted? Have your ears hardened off to the noise of steel doors yet?
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
I did not keep a diary, and this happened months ago. My best guess is that the spikes had lasted around 3-15 days.
I stopped parking in the underground parking garage at my supermarket where the first set of heavy steel doors that I got in trouble with are located.
- Mar 11, 2018
- 875
- Tinnitus Since
- 3/18
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise Induced Hearing Loss
@Bill Bauer
There are many things I do differently now that have become reflexive. I'm having a hard time thinking of them because it's part of my routine now. Most importantly keep my x5a's at arms length at all times.
There are many things I do differently now that have become reflexive. I'm having a hard time thinking of them because it's part of my routine now. Most importantly keep my x5a's at arms length at all times.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
bSiDeQuiEtWaTeRS
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- Jul 3, 2016
- 52
- Tinnitus Since
- 4/1997
- Cause of Tinnitus
- soundwaves, transformers, vibrations, sirens, decibels, life
@lifeisover Being that distance from the door, plus in another room closed off from it, and not even on the same floor I do not feel the door made your tinnitus any worse.
I have felt the same way and have struggles often and concern that various sounds have caused damage. Damage meaning made my tinnitus worse by either making existing sounds louder or creating a new sound or tone...or given me hearing loss which would make the T louder.
I wouldn't think your life is over, or that it is just black with no white or no color. You may very well be able to deal with sounds like this and other sounds in the future...you already are dealing with them, but just not well. I get that...tinnitus is difficult to hear, a challenge to live with, and not fun...and loud sounds are stupid.
I had terrible feelings last night about some exposure(s) to sound and it may have made my ears a little worse...I cannot always tell. It probably wasn't even really loud at all. I just hope that if something ever happens again where I can tell it's worse, and actually loud, that I can cope. But I hope that doesn't happen. I mean it's enough to live with it the way it is now.
I have felt the same way and have struggles often and concern that various sounds have caused damage. Damage meaning made my tinnitus worse by either making existing sounds louder or creating a new sound or tone...or given me hearing loss which would make the T louder.
I wouldn't think your life is over, or that it is just black with no white or no color. You may very well be able to deal with sounds like this and other sounds in the future...you already are dealing with them, but just not well. I get that...tinnitus is difficult to hear, a challenge to live with, and not fun...and loud sounds are stupid.
I had terrible feelings last night about some exposure(s) to sound and it may have made my ears a little worse...I cannot always tell. It probably wasn't even really loud at all. I just hope that if something ever happens again where I can tell it's worse, and actually loud, that I can cope. But I hope that doesn't happen. I mean it's enough to live with it the way it is now.
- May 17, 2017
- 909
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Ototoxic earwax drops, worsened by MDs (Muppet Doctors)
Acute anxiety in the form of panic attacks can make T spike like it has been turned it up with a volume knob.
I experienced this once and it had nothing to do with sound exposure. My T went from about a 1 to a 10 within about 5 seconds as the wave of panic surged through me.
I agree with @Ed209, except depending on how loud it was, I would not have wanted to be next the door when it happened. Luckily your house would have absorbed any sound remotely damaging @lifeisover
Your room door shaking would most likely have been caused by air pressure changing, rather than vibrations considering it's built from concrete. I have a sliding door at the back of my house that rattles when the front door is opened.
I experienced this once and it had nothing to do with sound exposure. My T went from about a 1 to a 10 within about 5 seconds as the wave of panic surged through me.
I agree with @Ed209, except depending on how loud it was, I would not have wanted to be next the door when it happened. Luckily your house would have absorbed any sound remotely damaging @lifeisover
Your room door shaking would most likely have been caused by air pressure changing, rather than vibrations considering it's built from concrete. I have a sliding door at the back of my house that rattles when the front door is opened.
Hi, I see your point, at the same time maybe I didn't describe the situation well. My room is basically exactly above that front door,my two windows are vertically parallel to that door. Right outside of my room, which only has a normal wooden door, is a granite staircase, which leads downstairs right in front of that heavy front door. So I feel I am exposed to that door from many sides. The house is built of concrete, but it doesn't mean it's completely silent. for example, if someone uses the water tap in the bathroom right next to my door, I am able to hear it.
I don't know if after this info, it can still be said that I was isolated from the noise.
- May 17, 2017
- 909
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Ototoxic earwax drops, worsened by MDs (Muppet Doctors)
I still think it would be ok. A sound can still be loud and probably not a cause for too much concern. The anxiety and worrying on the other hand can be. I understand how it is. I've had plenty of bad luck noise incidences.
@lifeisover bro, I'm where you are right now. I was checking a van over for my wife (she needs to buy it for work). The guy I was looking shit it from had to hood up; I was about 5/6 feet away and he blasted the horn twice by mistake.
I'm in the same anxious web you are in and I am trying to calm myself and negotiate it. As people have said on this thread, correctly, it has happened now, so there is nothing we can do but try and manage the fallout
I'm in the same anxious web you are in and I am trying to calm myself and negotiate it. As people have said on this thread, correctly, it has happened now, so there is nothing we can do but try and manage the fallout
I regularly experience spikes that goes back down again. I suspect that they are caused by anxiety rather than any damage to the nerve cells inside the ear.
Going by your description, the bulk of the sound energy should have traveled along the stairs, since a floor blocked the straight-lined path. Noise weakens by distance according to the fallowing pattern:
Four* meters away from the sound source: - 6 db
Eight meters away from the sound source: - 12 db
Sixteen meters away from the sound source: -18 db
Etc.
Lets say the distance amounts to eight meters. There goes 12 decibels. Furthermore, you had the door to your room closed. There goes another 10 decibels, so 22 decibels reduction all in all. Chances are you'll be fine.
*Actually, it might be that you start to count from two meters. I can't recall right now. But the point is that the sound energy is reduced by 6 decibels every time you double the distance.
I dont think you should worry. I had doors slam all the time and car doors slam when I had mild t and nothing happened. I had tinnitus for about 10 months and what I can see that it can get worse by the following ways.
-Concerts (anything with really loud music)
-Clubs
-Festivals
-Loud Audio in Car
-Loud Bars
-Vacuum
-Blender
-Ear tests: Tympanometry, Acoustic Reflex, VEMP, Ecog, Caloric Test, Microsuction, Ear Syrnging, etc. Certain ototoxic drugs.
-Fire Alarms (I was exposed to 2 fire alarms)
- Hairdryer
-Hand dryer in restrooms
When I had Mild T back in December I was walking outside on a busy road with lots of traffic, out of a blue an ambulance passed right beside me (not kidding you). I covered my ears quickly (the siren was so loud), nothing happened, no increase in T, nothing..zip nada.
I really was not made to handle tinnitus. I didn't have anxiety before tinnitus. I am surrounded by people who tell me "I have tinnitus too but I just ignore it all the time". I used to have such phases too, but lately no more. I just want to focus on my life again. I want to be happy/sad/neutral again like everyone else and not constantly worry about my health. I lost so much already. I feel so defeated.
I hate saying this but you have another acoustic trauma. I had/have ear fullness right after I did the VEMP test. Hang in there because you are in for a ride again.
I just went outside for a walk to calm down but I forgot it is the weekend (normally i dont go for walks here on weekend nights). and someone was shooting fireworks or gunshots i dont know. it happened 4 times until I nmanaged to run home. first shot i was out on a field. second to fourth i think i was closer to the source., maybe 100m meters. I think the distance was. I am terrified. I didnt know I could be more terified than i already was. I am losing my mind,
Are you still worried about the door slam now?
I don't say this to be smart or smug, I say it to highlight the pattern of anxiety and phonophobia you are now in.
I know because I am also in it and recognise many of your behaviours, fears and thoughts as my own.
These shots will replace the door anxiety and will in turn be replaced soon by something else.
You aren't losing your mind, you are just highly anxious
I don't say this to be smart or smug, I say it to highlight the pattern of anxiety and phonophobia you are now in.
I know because I am also in it and recognise many of your behaviours, fears and thoughts as my own.
These shots will replace the door anxiety and will in turn be replaced soon by something else.
You aren't losing your mind, you are just highly anxious
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@lifeisover I can feel your suffering.
We are all tortured by different kinds of sound.
Try to be vigilant when going out.
Otherwise, stay indoor is safer.
May God bless you !
We are all tortured by different kinds of sound.
Try to be vigilant when going out.
Otherwise, stay indoor is safer.
May God bless you !
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