Falchion
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I'm as skeptical as the next guy, but some of the people in this thread need to take a long, hard look in the mirror. The amount of vitriol in this thread is ridiculous.
Go check out all the testimonials on the website. Legit videos from people doing MUCH better. Or do you prefer to believe they're all paid actors? Please. There's way easier ways to make money. And sure, $300 isn't something to be sniffed at, but at least it's not 4 times that amount that Joey from the Rocksteady program charges (which I think is a very high amount, with a much less obvious science factor or testimonials).
In any case. This guy has put something together that can help people. It's taken him a long time and he makes his living through it. Again, there are WAY easier ways to make money. Do the math, you guys: 230 people times $300 is $70k. Assuming all of them paid $200, which they didn't. And over how many years?
If this were a scam, it's a really shitty one.
So y'all need to chill the f out. If he made tons on it, different story. He isn't. This is also why I didn't try the Rocksteady program, because that one supposedly had thousands of members at, what, $1250 a pop? Now that's legit money and that makes me far more skeptical.
As for some of the claims Liam makes, I've seen fasting and diet come around in too many places to believe they're not hugely underestimated factors. Just look up Jordan Peterson and how his health radically changed from going full carnivore. His daughter, with massive joint problems, had them virtually go away from the diet.
There's something there, and science hasn't caught on yet.
As for me, I'm still working with my chiropractor on my tinnitus (the tinnitus which, after two prednison treatments, really seems to be a muscle issue - even if a hammer drill was the initial onset. NO hearing damage and no consistent tone, just a scrambly noise that varies greatly in intensity, frequency and presence). I intend to give Liam's program a whirl after that, especially since he offers money back in 90 days (how scammy!).
That actually reminds me of the uproar around Calmers. I tried those, they didn't work, and guess what? I got my money back, as promised. Very scammy, again.
But back to my point - you can be skeptical, you can and should question everything. But what I've seen in this thread is a bunch of really salty people crying wolf, and the subject of their anger responding to comments in a very contained and respectful manner.
This forum helped me a lot initially, but now I wonder how many of you hang around here just to wallow in your own negativity. Get a life, you guys, and instead of criticizing everything, go ahead and actually try some stuff. You might be a better person for it.
As for me, whenever I do get around to Liam's program (and there's still a chance I won't, just saying) I will check back in and tell you guys how it went.
Go check out all the testimonials on the website. Legit videos from people doing MUCH better. Or do you prefer to believe they're all paid actors? Please. There's way easier ways to make money. And sure, $300 isn't something to be sniffed at, but at least it's not 4 times that amount that Joey from the Rocksteady program charges (which I think is a very high amount, with a much less obvious science factor or testimonials).
In any case. This guy has put something together that can help people. It's taken him a long time and he makes his living through it. Again, there are WAY easier ways to make money. Do the math, you guys: 230 people times $300 is $70k. Assuming all of them paid $200, which they didn't. And over how many years?
If this were a scam, it's a really shitty one.
So y'all need to chill the f out. If he made tons on it, different story. He isn't. This is also why I didn't try the Rocksteady program, because that one supposedly had thousands of members at, what, $1250 a pop? Now that's legit money and that makes me far more skeptical.
As for some of the claims Liam makes, I've seen fasting and diet come around in too many places to believe they're not hugely underestimated factors. Just look up Jordan Peterson and how his health radically changed from going full carnivore. His daughter, with massive joint problems, had them virtually go away from the diet.
There's something there, and science hasn't caught on yet.
As for me, I'm still working with my chiropractor on my tinnitus (the tinnitus which, after two prednison treatments, really seems to be a muscle issue - even if a hammer drill was the initial onset. NO hearing damage and no consistent tone, just a scrambly noise that varies greatly in intensity, frequency and presence). I intend to give Liam's program a whirl after that, especially since he offers money back in 90 days (how scammy!).
That actually reminds me of the uproar around Calmers. I tried those, they didn't work, and guess what? I got my money back, as promised. Very scammy, again.
But back to my point - you can be skeptical, you can and should question everything. But what I've seen in this thread is a bunch of really salty people crying wolf, and the subject of their anger responding to comments in a very contained and respectful manner.
This forum helped me a lot initially, but now I wonder how many of you hang around here just to wallow in your own negativity. Get a life, you guys, and instead of criticizing everything, go ahead and actually try some stuff. You might be a better person for it.
As for me, whenever I do get around to Liam's program (and there's still a chance I won't, just saying) I will check back in and tell you guys how it went.
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