Marijuana / Cannabis and Tinnitus

smoking increases my perception of T for sure. If I'm in a mindstate where my T is already bothering me, then smoking is a bad idea because I'm already anxious and fixated on it. If I'm in a mindstate where I'm pretty zen about it, then smoking is more likely to make me think "WOW that is so LOUD, FAR OUT MAN, it's like the sound of the COSMOS...."
 
It is legal in my state. If I take one or two puffs at night, it helps me sleep. I don't smoke it during the day. The tinnitus is bad when I lie down w/out smoking marijuana. It's medium during the day. I hate it, though. Makes it hard to enjoy sitting & reading. I have to have some sound on to block the tinnitus. One thing to be aware of if you do want to try marijuana, do not use the baked goods. They are very strong & hard to figure out a proper "dosage." Just ask your vendor what the mildest weed is, buy that & smoke only a small amount.
 
Hi, I use the baked goods, although it is at first difficult to "dose". I started with 90g of shake, that i purchased from Canna Farms, for less than $200 (a bargain) I used 400g of margarine, 300g of chocolate chips, and cooked it at 250 F for one hour, which decarboxylated the THCA to THC. The first day, I took an 18g dose, which works out to 2g of shake, and this was way too much! my vision got all blurry, I thought i was going to have a stroke, and my wife said i was extremely cold, and shivering. the next day, i went with a 10g dose, and that was just about right. the reason i am doing this, is because i would like to discontinue my other meds: i am already on lyrica, mirtazapine, and seroquel, so i would like to substitute cannabis for these other meds. cannabis shake measures at 8% THC, whereas high quality bud is 16% THC, so the shake is 1/2 the strength of regular bud. with a high dose of THC, my tinnitus definitely spiked, but using a modest proper dose, the tinnitus just slightly get louder, but not very much, and changes into a different character. the smaller more proper dose of THC also allowed me to get some work done today. also, it put me to sleep, and taking the proper dose, did not give me the tremendous anxiety that you get from an overdose, where you think you are going to die (but of course you don't because you cannot possibly die from cannabis overdose, it does not have any action of the brain stem respiratory center, like the opiate and other meds do).

so you can use baked goods, but you need to measure it very carefully with a scale that reads in 1 g. increment. prior to this, a few weeks ago i smoked just 2 hits from a cannabis cigarette that a friend of mine had, and it sent me on a wild overdose trip, with spiked tinnitus, etc, and not pleasant at all. so my advice is different from the above: measure things really accurately, and you can dose yourself. also, edible is good because it has a prolonged course of action. true, it is easier to overdose on edibles, but just be real cautious, and weigh it out carefully. by diluting one cannabis with 9 parts butter/chocolate, gives you a 10% dilution, and so this becomes a lot easier to measure and dose.

Canna Farms tells me they will be growing out a high CBD strain shortly, Canna Tonic, and CBD Skunk Haze. I am very curious about what the CBD strains will do, because THC and CBD have completely different actions, and have effects on completely different regions of the brain.
 
so far, it is not really doing anything wonderful at all... it makes the tinnitus temporarily get quite loud ? wrong strain ? need to wait to get some CBD pot.
 
Yeah, tried marijuana (been a looooooooong time) for the nasty T. Actually I was surprised - got pretty decent buzz (again, been a looooooong tme) which was interesting, but no impact at all on the Monster T. It was a good time to try it out because was one of my "bad" = louder days. I was somewhat surprised that it did nothing, considering that a bunch of beers do (temporarily) help a lot, but no effect from the M. I saw some other posts about getting a bit drunk brought some much needed relief. In my early days, when my world went steeply downhill due to sudden onset of the damn chronic T, I'd suffer through the day like most, and did the beer binge thing when I got home, just to get out of it and dampen the misery for a little while. That lasted only a few weeks because I just didn't want to keep doing that as a response, heard that alcohol should be avoided with T, and it just came back anyway, sometimes worse. I take Clononozepam.. Of course, like many others visiting this site, I've also tried (and still trying) a million different things. Been very time consuming (time I don't have), and probably close to a year's equivalent college tuition ($ rather use for something else, and also not a bottomless reserve). But like many, when you have a chronic severe case of the crap, your life is "hijacked" and have to keep searching for the needle in the haystack that may work, or at least help. T is a foggy, not well understood ailment in so many ways. The only 2 things I can say with confidence about it (just over 3 years now, regrettably) are 1. No two cases are exactly alike. Each is like a snowflake in terms of loudness/intensity, consistency, and everything else. Among the many of us that have it in so many varying degrees, no one can know what is going on in someone else's head, and how bad (for me = loud) it is at a given time. There may be some similarities or common elements, but it's not like a cold or broken arm - all different. 2. What works/helps for one person often does not work/help for another, and visa versa. Eastern techniques, western techniques (or northern or southern), doesn't matter - what one person swears by does nothing for someone else. That's about all I can say with any confidence about this &*#$%@ disgusting condition. In all these posting I see that many have not had it for 3 years, and certainly others have had it much longer that that. But I've had it long enough and have tried so many things (and that's a whole other posting), this I am certain of. I have also seen this echoed in some responses to the "Success Stories" (hope I can write one of those some day). The best advice I have is what one of the first audiologists at ENT's office said during my early phase of testing - If you have it bad where it's a life changer and not getting better, and if you have the time and $ (who does?), keep looking into your "bag of tricks". You never know what may work or help for any individual case, it might even go away or improve on it's own (then again, although I try to stay positive, is the depressing possibility that it's here to stay). For as long as feasible, I just keep trying, praying and watching the technology (and I've tried a lot of that too, including another new one ongoing now......). Good luck to everyone.
 
Twenty five years of Tinnitus and Musical Ear Syndrome with no hearing loss here, just my two cents. A recent convert to high CBD medical Marijuana. Works for me.
It really depends on the strain (mostly CBD Indicas or CBD Indica heavy hybrids seem to be working for me) but in general it does wonders for my Musical Ear Syndrome and lasts through the next day, my anxiety just drips away like water off a duck's back, helped break one of the worst spikes I've ever had, and has reduced my T down to the 'normal' level it was ten years ago. This may not be the case for everybody, we're all "snowflakes" after all. ;)
I was a hash smoker (read unconsciously -but effectively- self-medicating) for years in Europe and quit when I returned to Canada and found the weed that I was buying here increased both my T and my anxiety.
I don't think you can compare CBD MM strains, or even the more balanced Middle Eastern cottage industry farmed hash, to the grow-op 'street weed' high THC sativa stuff that's available to the vast majority here. North American growers tried to increase the amount of THC at the expense of CBD in marijuana for years and were very effective at that quest.
CBD=anti-anxiety, THC=increases anxiety. Increase the effects of one, negate the effects of the other. Plain and simple. Not a bad trade off if you like being stoned but, historically, sucks balls if you want the health benefits. And they are there with CBD.
Most of the weed people buy off a dealer is sativa and anywhere from 10:1 to 17:1 in favour of THC; I'm smoking Indica from a medical dispensary from 1:1 up to 1:4. See the difference? CBD also has the bonus of mitigating the psychoactive effects of THC.
If you have Tinnitus related anxiety then CBD heavy MM works very, very well I can assure you.
Think of it like antibiotics; there are many different kinds but only a few will help with your specific illness and some may do more harm then good. Some are good for pain, others for sleep, others for anxiety, some for nausea, some for either increasing or decreasing appetite etc.. Fortunately a good medical dispensary can inform you of what will help or harm.
My own pet theory is that after a while with T, or other hearing problems that cause T, the endo-canibanoid system becomes so fatigued it gives up trying to regulate all these misfiring neurons we have (which is basically what it's supposed to do in the first place) and we descend into a constant state of unmonitored and uncontrolled fight or flight response which has a cascade effect across the whole biological system. This, in turn, elevates T (chicken meet egg, egg meet chicken) and leads to spikes and other related symptoms both somatic and physical. Mine got so bad I was exhibiting the same symptoms as someone with thyroid problems -for which there is a family history and took quite a while to get to the bottom of. That vicious cycle, rather mercifully, has ended for me.
Cannabis helps regulate the endo-cannabinoid system; ergo they sympathetically re-establish a certain level of control that had become absent and re-opens those lines of communication that tells misfiring neurons to "shut the fuck up and go to sleep". Quite abruptly I would add.
Yes, I have tried a number of 'official' pharmaceutical routes, all of which had unwelcome side-effects, did nothing for my T, and some of which had disastrous effects on my day to day life. If those are working for you then great, they just didn't stick with me.
If you have the luxury and legality, then I would strongly suggest you try it as an option and stick it out for a while until you find something that works for you.
At the end of the day it's just another tool to have in the box and one that works very well for me. I was at the end of my rope with my doctor trying to push a square peg through a round hole and telling me there was nothing that could be done when the peg didn't fit for either of us. It works for some, give it a try.
 
I've been having T for about a year, initially both ears, and now only the left ear. I recall having suffered from T a long while ago, for quite a few months but perhaps not an entire year. Somehow it did not seem to bother me back then. I recall that I accepted it as being part of my life and did not give it much thought, although it was loud. I've tried to pinpoint the difference between now and then and the only difference is that back then I used to smoke a lot of cannabis. Smoking relaxed me so much that the buzzing sound in my ears would not bother me at all. I reckon it stopped because I was not bothered about it, I did no "feed it" as it were, and so it went. In fact, I noticed that reading/researching about T makes it louder.

I am a person prone to anxiety and low moods. Cannabis did make this aspect worse for a while, then it stopped when I realized that I was the only one in charge and that it was up to me to decide how to feel in any given moment.

I don't smoke anymore because I am a single mum and I need to be with it 24/7, plus the financial aspect of it... maybe I'll start again if my T does not improve. Will see.

I hope the above helps

Sim
 
Twenty five years of Tinnitus and Musical Ear Syndrome with no hearing loss here, just my two cents. A recent convert to high CBD medical Marijuana. Works for me.
It really depends on the strain (mostly CBD Indicas or CBD Indica heavy hybrids seem to be working for me) but in general it does wonders for my Musical Ear Syndrome and lasts through the next day, my anxiety just drips away like water off a duck's back, helped break one of the worst spikes I've ever had, and has reduced my T down to the 'normal' level it was ten years ago. This may not be the case for everybody, we're all "snowflakes" after all. ;)
I was a hash smoker (read unconsciously -but effectively- self-medicating) for years in Europe and quit when I returned to Canada and found the weed that I was buying here increased both my T and my anxiety.
I don't think you can compare CBD MM strains, or even the more balanced Middle Eastern cottage industry farmed hash, to the grow-op 'street weed' high THC sativa stuff that's available to the vast majority here. North American growers tried to increase the amount of THC at the expense of CBD in marijuana for years and were very effective at that quest.
CBD=anti-anxiety, THC=increases anxiety. Increase the effects of one, negate the effects of the other. Plain and simple. Not a bad trade off if you like being stoned but, historically, sucks balls if you want the health benefits. And they are there with CBD.
Most of the weed people buy off a dealer is sativa and anywhere from 10:1 to 17:1 in favour of THC; I'm smoking Indica from a medical dispensary from 1:1 up to 1:4. See the difference? CBD also has the bonus of mitigating the psychoactive effects of THC.
If you have Tinnitus related anxiety then CBD heavy MM works very, very well I can assure you.
Think of it like antibiotics; there are many different kinds but only a few will help with your specific illness and some may do more harm then good. Some are good for pain, others for sleep, others for anxiety, some for nausea, some for either increasing or decreasing appetite etc.. Fortunately a good medical dispensary can inform you of what will help or harm.
My own pet theory is that after a while with T, or other hearing problems that cause T, the endo-canibanoid system becomes so fatigued it gives up trying to regulate all these misfiring neurons we have (which is basically what it's supposed to do in the first place) and we descend into a constant state of unmonitored and uncontrolled fight or flight response which has a cascade effect across the whole biological system. This, in turn, elevates T (chicken meet egg, egg meet chicken) and leads to spikes and other related symptoms both somatic and physical. Mine got so bad I was exhibiting the same symptoms as someone with thyroid problems -for which there is a family history and took quite a while to get to the bottom of. That vicious cycle, rather mercifully, has ended for me.
Cannabis helps regulate the endo-cannabinoid system; ergo they sympathetically re-establish a certain level of control that had become absent and re-opens those lines of communication that tells misfiring neurons to "shut the fuck up and go to sleep". Quite abruptly I would add.
Yes, I have tried a number of 'official' pharmaceutical routes, all of which had unwelcome side-effects, did nothing for my T, and some of which had disastrous effects on my day to day life. If those are working for you then great, they just didn't stick with me.
If you have the luxury and legality, then I would strongly suggest you try it as an option and stick it out for a while until you find something that works for you.
At the end of the day it's just another tool to have in the box and one that works very well for me. I was at the end of my rope with my doctor trying to push a square peg through a round hole and telling me there was nothing that could be done when the peg didn't fit for either of us. It works for some, give it a try.
Very informative...wish M was available in Canada as a prescription. Buying it on the street is hit and miss...no idea what I'm smoking. I smoke every few days and seems to lift my depression but also find it very easy to run into anxiety related to my T. Wish I could sample different types, find something that really works on all fronts!
 
Big fan here of MJ before the T, it's been pretty hit & miss with me in regards to how much it affects it. I wouldn't say it makes it any louder or quieter but when I'm in the zone I either completely mellow & just veg listening to some downtempo or I become very aware of it & over think about it, which causes a lot of anxiety, that said though, this was during the period I actually got T & was scare & anxious anyway. I also believe different strains affects your T reaction. I'm not ever going to give it up because I believe it's a wonderful plant, natures way of saying "Go on... enjoy what life is..."
 
Hi, all. So I persisted. My first cannabis encounters were street variety and from a friend, and then some medical type from British Columbia cannabis farm. I persevered with taking the medical cannabis which has small amounts of CBD, and is the "shake" or sugar leaves. they also sell a "sativa shake", so what I must be getting is an indica shake. I cooked it into an edible chocolate, and now that I've been steadily using a proper dose for a week, and combining it with lyrica, i am getting results: I get up first thing in the morning, feeling pretty good, and immediately start doing work. The cannabis has let me totally get of seroquel, and i have been cutting my mirtazapine and plan to discontinue the mirtazapine. My tinnitus is pretty stable - not really bad, and i can tolerate it, it doesn't go all intrusive on me like it has in the past. So far, I haven't got any high CBD cannabis, but just the normal medical product, is now helping me get to sleep, and when i get up i feel quite a lot more energetic. Plus, being off seroquel, my weight has been slowly going down, which is a good thing.

Initially, I was taking 18g. of my THC edible chocolate, but now i am taking a dose of 10 or 11g and combined with lyrica, it gets me to sleep, with a lot less anxiety, and the side effect of increased tinnitus is no longer there.
 
It is mind bogglingly silly that this virtually harmless plant is illegal in most areas worldwide at the same time powerful, addictive, and neurotoxic dissociative hallucinogens such as DXM can be purchased over the counter at almost any pharmacy.
Dex is absolutely nuts, and people don't talk about it enough I don't think. There's a good reason it says "do not overdose" on the package. It irritates me that we spent so much time in health class focusing on anti-weed propaganda when we should have been learning about the even more accessible, legal, mind rotting highs that pill popping will give you.
I know this is a really late reply (from like 2013 I think?) but it's so important.
 
I've been taking 13g. of the edible, which is similar to 0.75g of bud, although at first, the tinnitus was kind of being aggravated, it doesn't have that effect anymore, mainly i'm getting proper sleep now and feel pretty normal. i've completely discontinued my seroquel, cut back on mirtazapine, also completely off imovane. i'm still on lyrica.

my conclusion is that cannabis is good, if you're taking meds, it lets you get off or reduce your other meds.
 
i have studied the CBN which is the THC breakdown product and is supposed to be highly sedative in very tiny doses.
http://steephilllab.com/cbn-a-sleeping-synergy/
it seems like i have been pushing the THC too hard, for example 0.5g cannabis = 500mg, at 10% thc that gives 50mg which is too much. i cut back my dose to approx 8mg thc with 8mg CBN and that seems to work really well. so i am starting to figure out what is happening: if you toke up, you get too much thc and not enough cbn, so it is necessary to convert the thc to cbn so you get the additive effect.

Of all the cannabinoids, CBN appears to be the most sedative. Not only is it sedative, it takes very little to do the job. The consumption of 2.5mg to 5mg of CBN has the same level of sedation as a mild pharmaceutical sedative, with a relaxed body sensation similar to 5mg to 10mg of diazepam. CBN is synergistic with both CBD and D9THC for inducement of sleeping, and when mixed in the correct ratios, CBN becomes an effective sleep aid of 5-6 hours duration.

i have been combining this with a synthetic melatonin called valdoxan, and so far so good, i'm starting to get optimistic.
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/
you need to heat carefully, i put it into a small crock pot and wrap in foil, to prevent overheating and burning when the oven cycles on and off

When we heat cannabis to convert the THCA and CBDA into THC and CBD, we are also converting THC to CBN at a faster rate. At about 70% decarboxylation, we actually start converting THC to CBN at a faster rate than we are converting THCA to THC, so as you can see by the following graph, after about 70% decarboxylation, the levels of THC actually start to fall sharply.
 
It comes down to picking your pleasure or poison. I am a Christian and find nothing wrong with smoking. The dang stuff grows with a million seeds naturally as to tell humans multiply me NOW!!

Archaeology magazine a few years back had a small article in the back section featuring an 3000 yr old+ Asian nomadic discovered with a clothing and a necklace with an ornamental box attached. Inside was perfectly preserved Marijuana. It'd be tough to discount the importance / respect that this culture held towards the herb.

Personally though I have smoked 15 yrs straight and then quit longest time months 6..and In that time I developed T!!
My body / hearing became hypertensioned blood pressure. Smoked and my bp dropped to normal levels. Still have high level of T right now. Its such an individual thing though. Start slow starting or quitting for sure.
 
It comes down to picking your pleasure or poison. I am a Christian and find nothing wrong with smoking. The dang stuff grows with a million seeds naturally as to tell humans multiply me NOW!!

Archaeology magazine a few years back had a small article in the back section featuring an 3000 yr old+ Asian nomadic discovered with a clothing and a necklace with an ornamental box attached. Inside was perfectly preserved Marijuana. It'd be tough to discount the importance / respect that this culture held towards the herb.

Personally though I have smoked 15 yrs straight and then quit longest time months 6..and In that time I developed T!!
My body / hearing became hypertensioned blood pressure. Smoked and my bp dropped to normal levels. Still have high level of T right now. Its such an individual thing though. Start slow starting or quitting for sure.
I've met people who think Jesus smoked herb and God put weed on this Earth for our pleasure of consumption but I don't know man. Just because it grows naturally and is old doesn't mean anything. Native Indians in Peru used to chew coca leaves for their energy inducing magical powers and the poppy has been used for eons for the pain relief its opium provides, but at the end of the day its still Cocaine and Heroin. MJ is a mind altering substance that most people use to get high which makes its harder for people that want to use it for its medicinal properties (which I believe it has.) This is why CBD will never be as popular as THC strains, and with the growing widespread use of dabs (hash oil) it seems like this is an easier way to measure the exact dosage, but now people are posting videos on YouTube having biggest dab hit contests. Every time something good comes out of the medical community regarding cannabis stoners have to ruin the image. When I was growing up I loved to watch Cheech & Chung and listen to Bob Marley but I didn't idolize that stinky, lethargic lifestyle. I wanted to be James Bond who seemed smooth as silk with the ladies. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm glad people here are talking about MJ from an intelligent perspective in regards to how it helps their tinnitus, stress, pain, etc. because I know so many people that just sit around and get f@*ked up all day.
 
Very informative...wish M was available in Canada as a prescription. Buying it on the street is hit and miss...no idea what I'm smoking. I smoke every few days and seems to lift my depression but also find it very easy to run into anxiety related to my T. Wish I could sample different types, find something that really works on all fronts!

I think this is a perfect explanation, the MJ makes you delve into the feelings you're currently experiencing in life. For me, a sativa MJ makes me hyper aware of it. Its what I usually have when I listen to upbeat music, when I exercise and generally have lots of energy to just get stuff done. For a good deep indica, it makes me sleepier and more prone to follow those daydream type thoughts off into slumber but even then I can notice the tinnitus if my mind wants to be a bastard and make me go looking for it just to remind me. My tinnitus recently spiked up to a new level of loudness after bad bout of ear infection in my left ear which is already permanently damaged. Got another dr appointment soon to see if flushing my right ear will clear it up because its definitely stuffed. MJ during this time has been a no no just because I was on anti biotics and ear drops.
 
Hi

I see someone with T can smoke without problems while others with T stays away it after have used it for years before they got T, why is it like that? what makes MJ that T spikes, I even had low T in the right ear that does not bother me while I smoke in eight years everyday, one day was T higher and tried to smoke so it was very higher and panicked ... sudden stop after that
 
I can speak from personal experience - getting stoned causes my tinnitus to become extremely noticeable, until it drops off after the effects are over.
 
I used to be heavy cannabis smoker,
after I quit by 4 months my T started, thus I have not smoked it in past 6 months
my T started after the first flue/cold I had since I stopped smoking cannabis
I doubt there is a relation between smoking cannabis and T
 
I have smoked weed everyday for the past 7 years, only have had tinnitus for 18 days now. Smoking weed for me makes my tinnitus a lot worse, it makes me focus on the T and it seems to be even louder than normal when I am high. I still smoke, it just really sucks because I cannot smoke before I go to sleep anymore(had major sleeping issues even before T). I also stopped smoking weed for about 10 days after my T started and it had no effect on my T at all. Back to smoking now, 1-2 times a day, my T goes through the roof sometimes and I have to stand up and calm myself.Will be the last bag of weed I buy for a while.
 
I've met people who think Jesus smoked herb and God put weed on this Earth for our pleasure of consumption but I don't know man. Just because it grows naturally and is old doesn't mean anything. Native Indians in Peru used to chew coca leaves for their energy inducing magical powers and the poppy has been used for eons for the pain relief its opium provides, but at the end of the day its still Cocaine and Heroin.

Except that it's not. Chewed coca leaves are much more comparable to a cup of coffee than a line of blow. Raw poppies are certainly much more fiendishly addictive, but there are a whole bunch of things that prevent them from being nearly as problematic as heroin.
 
For some reason , a couple of days after smoking I get depressed ? No Idea why and it took me years to make that connection.
 
I never would have thought mj spiked up t, but having had no t and nothing to puff for two weeks, i know now. I dont puff very often but yesterday i had a puff and my t came back and it didnt stop till this afterneoon. I never put the two together like that, but i will never have another puff again.
 
Except that it's not. Chewed coca leaves are much more comparable to a cup of coffee than a line of blow. Raw poppies are certainly much more fiendishly addictive, but there are a whole bunch of things that prevent them from being nearly as problematic as heroin.

I second this ... I chewed coca in Peru daily for a few months .. I quit doing it from one day to the next and didn`t even have a single thought about doing it again after that day because it is totally not addictive ... yes it is a fun time consumer and you get energy ... don`t even ask me why i did it daily for so long. but the high is even clearer and smoother then a coffee or redbull ... no speedy feeling ... just I don`t know ... clarity and energy.
 
MJ has really helped me, I used to have serious insomnia and could rarely sleep more than 45 min. at a time and would be woke up by screaming dog-whistles, this led to anxiety, depression and a feeling of always being ragged and tired. Now with the MJ, i use a bit about 2 hours before bed and sleep peacefully through the night and wake up with no problem.
The only other thing that helped me sleep was Benadryl, and that, when taken at 9pm, would not be out of my system until around 1pm the next day, it also made it very hard to get up in the morning and I was groggy all day.

As for the ringing, it doesn't make it go away, but I care a little less about it now. Also the occasional vibrating that used to work itself into being painful hasn't occurred since the day before I started the "treatments".
 
pot doesn't do much for my ringing, but it definitely solves the problem of not being stoned enough. Any time I find myself thinking "ahhh I am thinking too clearly and accomplishing too many things in parallel, I need to slow down and be less efficient and also see more pictures of multicolored fractal insects marching through my mind!", weed solves that, like, perfectly.
 

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