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I never really blamed CBT as a problem because it seems to have it's roots in therapies outside of tinnitus where it can be very useful, I mainly focused on TRT being a problem. But make no mistake if they value CBT as the equivalent of being cured that's not going to be tolerated by MPP.
Exactly. I just see it as a side thing, and recommend it over TRT because at least it's not directly competing for resources with tinnitus research. Is it a crappy paradigm? sure, but it's not remotely as bad as TRT, which is an established paradigm that is competing with our research funds, and it's founder basically straight up came out against tinnitus research.
 
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At first I liked the Susan Shore team. Now I think they're kinda whack because they wont explain how their machine works. I know enough about microcontrollers, computer programming, and electronics to easily replicate their device and ease my discomfort. I think they're just waiting around trying to figure out how to make the most money off of their discovery. If you know how to cure a disease it shouldnt be a trade secret. There should be some kind of government subsidy to make sure they get paid for their work or something. I hate this world.
I think they already know how to sell it, they're just trying to start the mandatory 2nd trial and get that out of the way so they can legally sell it.

But you're right. Keeping it a secret makes sense, but sucks.
 
normies that view this thread will probably assume this is what happens when the alt right internet trolls gets hearing loss
however my political views are on the very far left as a mentally disabled person it's suicide to have right wing views.
 
normies that view this thread will probably assume this is what happens when the alt right internet trolls gets hearing loss
however my political views are on the very far left as a mentally disabled person it's suicide to have right wing views.
I'd say this is what happens when people from the wilderness of the internet get tinnitus and come together in one place.
 
November 2017 I was suicidal AF first before I made an account, I was learning about research and found tinnitus talk when I came across a certain someone on the forum, I noticed somebody was sperging around on the forum and decided to ignore them, but make no mistake I was well aware they were the residential troll and there views being opposed to glorifying habituation as were mine at the time just do to common sense. I was reading about Frequency, UoM, and ATEOS and Aaron123's post about research updates in tears. I also got confused and thought Auris Medical was still active in a trial. I was still trying to figure out what the root cause of tinnitus was because I was asking "was it caused by hair cell damage, or by nerve damage" or something else once I got an understanding of central gain model that any form of hearing loss can cause tinnitus things started to make sense. I was reading horror stories on this forum that made me feel even worse and suicidal. The only thing that brought me hope was the research threads until I found MPP and became an activist. Once threefirefour randomly decided to make Hugh Neutron his profile picture and I was a sucker for good Hugh memes I sent him a PM and from there I learned about MPP and found someone with a similar mindset to me about TRT and finding treatments.
 
I was also dumbfounded when I first joined the forum and found out that only a few people cared about science or knew about the central gain model, no discussion about parts of the brain associated with tinnitus and restoration of cochlear damage.

I must be mentally ill for caring too much.
 

some nutjob i know on another shady corner of the internet posted this video and actually believes it
MPP does not officially support the views of this video
 
Fam, I don't know how much longer I can keep going. Suicidal thoughts severely increasing and I might do something stupid in the future. Please, someone tell me my life won't be a waste and there will be a cure for this crap...
 
Fam, I don't know how much longer I can keep going. Suicidal thoughts severely increasing and I might do something stupid in the future. Please, someone tell me my life won't be a waste and there will be a cure for this crap...
i wouldn't kill myself when good researchers like Liberman, Shore, are out trying to use science to bring real solutions to hearing loss and tinnitus. However in 5 years or so if I notice it's a TRT merry go round I will off myself.
 
@IAmCalifornia how loud is your T?

Do you have hearing loss, TMD? Neck problems? Head Trauma?

Deal.

It's mostly in my right ear. Pretty loud, fan at night doesn't cover it, however during the day, I don't hear it much if I am outside or in a busy place. If I press on my right temporalis muscle it gets louder. I get the odd "fleeting" extra tone that scares me every time.

It's been a draining few years.

All audiologists say no hearing loss, mild head trauma a few years back (nothing serious)... no neck problems though I do have a bad posture........
 
Deal.

It's mostly in my right ear. Pretty loud, fan at night doesn't cover it, however during the day, I don't hear it much if I am outside or in a busy place. If I press on my right temporalis muscle it gets louder. I get the odd "fleeting" extra tone that scares me every time.

It's been a draining few years.

All audiologists say no hearing loss, mild head trauma a few years back (nothing serious)... no neck problems though I do have a bad posture........
head trauma is a suspect
 
i've been using headphones a some what on 70% max and i haven't noticed any spikes or anything with my tinnitus as well as the fact that high pitches don't smear as much while using headphones because they transfer music in higher quaility.

i still notice slight facial muscle tightness but no ear pain. I still believe this is what is left of the hyperacusis.

PART OF THE REASON IM DEPRESSED IS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY BENIFFITED A LOT FROM HEADPHONES, I LIVE IN A SMALL APARTMENT WHERE I CANT LISTEN TO MUSIC ON HI FI, NOR COULD AFFORD ONE, AND AT NIGHT I OBVIOUSLY CANT PLAY MUSIC, AND MY FAMILY HATES MOST OF THE MUSIC I LIKE.
 
i was embarassed to admit this but im literally suicidal just because i can't use a headset to go outside in nature, at a gym, riding my bike, or with friends (if i had them) just because I worry I might make my tinnitus worse.

as much as I disagree with Michael Leigh on reactive tinnitus, and hidden hearing loss and the Earth being round he is coincidentally right about headphones being more risky. The synapses in the ear are already damaged and the goal of mine is to preserve my high pitch hearing until real therapeutics can address the problem. the reality is i am a pathetic loser and even if there was a therapeutic for hearing loss I would definitely not be covered by insurance for it, nor quailify as the ability to hear high pitch notes in the background of music is clinically unconcerning.

high pitches smear in all my favorite music, bird chirps smear on a windy day, but I can still hear a employer telling me to get back to work that's all that matters.

i want to die
again
 
I am confused here. Who is who now? Contrast is threefirefour?

Anyways we need you to make a cyber big old ruler to be used on the knuckles of some people posting in support!
 
I am confused here. Who is who now? Contrast is threefirefour?

Anyways we need you to make a cyber big old ruler to be used on the knuckles of some people posting in support!
Contrast stole my profile picture so I'm going to use his daughterfu as a reaction image.

And yeah there are some serious morons over there. At least it's better than it was a year ago.

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