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[Jack Straw]

I want to go too. I wonder if I'll meet any of my TT-friends over in the land of Green.

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I am sure there will be a lot of people who live in Europe from TT going. I will definitely be one of the Americans heading over for sure.

If you dont mind me asking, how did you develop your tinnitus?

 

[JohnAdams]

I have decided that the path forward is TRT only

Sign me up

Dude seriously?

 

[threefirefour]

I am sure there will be a lot of people who live in Europe from TT going. I will definitely be one of the Americans heading over for sure.

If you dont mind me asking, how did you develop your tinnitus?

I originally got it from impacted earwax, but I think what is maintaining it is my TMD. I think this because I got a brace recently and my tinnitus is the quietest it's ever been.

 

[threefirefour]

Dude seriously?

I'm sure I said this at some point for a meme, but when I click on the little blue arrow, it just takes me to my comment about neuromod devices.

 

[Jack Straw]

I originally got it from impacted earwax, but I think what is maintaining it is my TMD. I think this because I got a brace recently and my tinnitus is the quietest it's ever been.

I also have TMJ among other potential causes of tinnitus. I notice I get increase H in my ears when my TMJ is acting up.

I hope we can drag @JohnAdams with us to Ireland as well!

 

[JohnAdams]

I have an idea. Silence retraining therapy. Just sit in silence and do stuff like read and maybe that will teach your brain that this is silence and to stfu? I got this idea from not really masking at night and sitting in my office in silence and working. My tinnitus is in fact on the low low now as I type this.

 

[PDodge]

I have an idea. Silence retraining therapy. Just sit in silence and do stuff like read and maybe that will teach your brain that this is silence and to stfu? I got this idea from not really masking at night and sitting in my office in silence and working. My tinnitus is in fact on the low low now as I type this.

So is mine I also used no masking last night. I never mask during the days because I can't at work and I find masking almost more annoying then my t

 

[JohnAdams]

Whoever wrote this is a complete fucking idiot.

 

[Kain]

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Whoever wrote this is a complete fucking idiot.

wow i kinda want fight that guy

 

[threefirefour]

wow i kinda want fight that guy

Seriously though. What other medical community has an establishment of people who pretend not to know what the problem is? It's infuriating that we're the one's who have to deal with this.

 

[Jazzer]

That's how I feel. Like an endless wave of bad luck. Mine unfortunately did not start with tinnitus. A few years ago on Christmas day my father was murdered right in front of me. Before that my job that I was really good at closed down,before it closed this man was almost weekly accusing me of being a racist and trying to get me fired. Also I had some other business associates stab me in the back. It just doesnt end.

Oh dear - I'm so sorry JA x

 

[Bam]

@JohnAdams just saw that post about your Dad dude. That's heavy. I had a similar experience when I was a kid and my Dad was killed. I also had a very bad run in the build up to T. I know about hearing loss etc but I'm pretty sure I would have silence now if I had spent more time 'sharing' in a circle of naked hippies and having my spirit animal cradled by some big breasted earth mother.

 

[Bam]

this man was almost weekly accusing me of being a racist and trying to get me fired.

Yeah well you proved that f***er totally wrong when you turned yourself full on yellow.

 

[threefirefour]

Is anyone watching Jojo tomorrow? After two years it's finally happening.

 

[JohnAdams]

Yeah well you proved that f***er totally wrong when you turned yourself full on yellow.

lol lmao

 

[JohnAdams]

@JohnAdams just saw that post about your Dad dude. That's heavy. I had a similar experience when I was a kid and my Dad was killed. I also had a very bad run in the build up to T. I know about hearing loss etc but I'm pretty sure I would have silence now if I had spent more time 'sharing' in a circle of naked hippies and having my spirit animal cradled by some big breasted earth mother.

have you heard of the rainbow family?

 

[PDodge]

@JohnAdams just saw that post about your Dad dude. That's heavy. I had a similar experience when I was a kid and my Dad was killed. I also had a very bad run in the build up to T. I know about hearing loss etc but I'm pretty sure I would have silence now if I had spent more time 'sharing' in a circle of naked hippies and having my spirit animal cradled by some big breasted earth mother.

Maybe all you need is some ayahuasca

 

[Kain]

 

[Jack Straw]

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Realised there is a whole thread on MuteButton... Should have posted there... oops.

Did you guys see this pamphlet from Nueromod? The hype train is seriously on a roll now without any breaks. They are releasing their official findings on the 9th. I am so optimistic yet so terrified that it isn't as good as they are leading on.

thoughts?

 

[threefirefour]

Did you guys see this pamphlet from Nueromod? The hype train is seriously on a roll now without any breaks. They are releasing their official findings on the 9th. I am so optimistic yet so terrified that it isn't as good as they are leading on.

thoughts?

And I thought Vento Aureo would be the thing I was most hyped about this month. 2018 is a terrible year to be a TRT/CBT shill.

 

[Jack Straw]

And I thought Vento Aureo would be the thing I was most hyped about this month. 2018 is a terrible year to be a TRT/CBT shill.

150% they are freaking out because they will be obsolete if this product or other ones like it come to market. My only concern is that this may lead to some people greasing politicians to stop Nueromod from getting FDA approval in the US or at least delaying it. Obviously this is all speculation.

My question is, how is this treatment administered? Do you not have to first go to a clinic to get it set up with the tones of your tinnitus or do you just use it out of the box? Is there no personalization to this device like the other 2 devices in the US?

 

[Manny]

Did you guys see this pamphlet from Nueromod? The hype train is seriously on a roll now without any breaks. They are releasing their official findings on the 9th. I am so optimistic yet so terrified that it isn't as good as they are leading on.

thoughts?

"over 80% reported reduced T symptoms within twelve weeks". Wow. I sure hope this is for real. I too eagerly await the release of the double-blind study journal paper.
Any guesses as to how much this think will cost? A few thousand dollars? (sorry but I'm American lol).

EDIT: >80% experienced reduction of "T symptoms", but it doesn't say how much reduction, that's important too. And of course the-all critical question of whether the effects will stack with continued use.
But hey we have zero treatments to date, so anything at all would be a great start! Yah!

 

[Jack Straw]

"over 80% reported reduced T symptoms within twelve weeks". Wow. I sure hope this is for real. I too eagerly await the release of the double-blind study journal paper.
Any guesses as to how much this think will cost? A few thousand dollars? (sorry but I'm American lol).

Fellow American here too! I am seriously so anxious about the results being release on the 9th because it could literally be life changing for all of us or just be a massive upset.

We are going to need all of MPP reading the report and picking it apart to see if we can say it is legitimately going to help us.

I'm not sure how much it will cost. I am guessing anywhere between $500 - $3000, but I could be WAY off. Honestly, idgaf how much it costs. I am buying it.

 

[Manny]

Fellow American here too! I am seriously so anxious about the results being release on the 9th because it could literally be life changing for all of us or just be a massive upset.

We are going to need all of MPP reading the report and picking it apart to see if we can say it is legitimately going to help us.

I'm not sure how much it will cost. I am guessing anywhere between $500 - $3000, but I could be WAY off. Honestly, idgaf how much it costs. I am buying it.

Well. I'm trying to be very cautious in any optimism but look, U of MI, U of MN and these guys all are doing similar stuff. Three independent and intelligent parties all buying into the same triples its credibility. Or actually probably way more than triples, maybe some logician here can help me with that lol

 

[Jack Straw]

Well. I'm trying to be very cautious in any optimism but look, U of MI, U of MN and these guys all are doing similar stuff. Three independent and intelligent parties all buying into the same triples its credibility. Or actually probably way more than triples, maybe some logician here can help me with that lol

I did some research and found your answer. It will cost around $3,000.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...just-the-start-for-neuromod-devices-1.2256123

Also, the article states that it is available privately.... Does this mean they are selling them, but not to the general public?

What is also amazing is that it states it reduced tinnitus by around 42%! That's insane! That's almost a 10 db reduction and this article is 3 years old so who know how good it is now!

 

[Manny]

I did some research and found your answer. It will cost around $3,000.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...just-the-start-for-neuromod-devices-1.2256123

Also, the article states that it is available privately.... Does this mean they are selling them, but not to the general public?

What is also amazing is that it states it reduced tinnitus by around 42%! That's insane! That's almost a 10 db reduction and this article is 3 years old so who know how good it is now!

Nice. I must say though confused by the fact this device has apparently been "released" like three times in the past six years (just based on articles I've read and stuff). Hmm.

 

[Jack Straw]

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Nice. I must say though confused by the fact this device has apparently been "released" like three times in the past six years (just based on articles I've read and stuff). Hmm.

Maybe they mean release information about it to the public or have done testing?

What is interesting is that the article address the need for an actual tinnitus treatment because there is a huge number of the population entering the "tinnitus zone" in terms of age along with the fact that our environment keeps getting louder over time causing increased hearing damage. Seems like if this device is successful along with the other two, there will hopefully be a treatment race to make the best one to capitalize on it.

 

[JohnAdams]

I did some research and found your answer. It will cost around $3,000.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...just-the-start-for-neuromod-devices-1.2256123

Also, the article states that it is available privately.... Does this mean they are selling them, but not to the general public?

What is also amazing is that it states it reduced tinnitus by around 42%! That's insane! That's almost a 10 db reduction and this article is 3 years old so who know how good it is now!

$3,000 for an electronic device like this is total profiteering bullshit. A top notch gaming PC with a VR headset isnt even that much.

I could replicate this thing with a USB connected Arduino for $20 or less worth of parts, very easily, so long as I knew the timing scheme. These people are shameless.

 

[Jack Straw]

$3,000 for an electronic device like this is total profiteering bullshit. A top notch gaming PC with a VR headset isnt even that much.

I could replicate this thing with a USB connected Arduino for $20 or less worth of parts, very easily, so long as I knew the timing scheme. These people are shameless.

You have to remember that your not just paying for the parts and labor, you are paying for the technology and research that went into it unfortunately. If it is successful, more companies will join this type of treatment letting capitalism do its thing reducing the price significantly.

 

[JohnAdams]

You have to remember that your not just paying for the parts and labor, you are paying for the technology and research that went into it unfortunately. If it is successful, more companies will join this type of treatment letting capitalism do its thing reducing the price significantly.

I wonder what the profit margin is.