Solsaem Clinic (Dr. Minbo Shim) Experience

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GlennS said:
Quite a bit more than just one testimonial. For one thing, JohnAdam's tinnitus is pretty recent. That's very different from someone who has been suffering for many years.
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Which @GlennAz has. From my understanding he's had it for over 50 years and was a poor candidate and he's still noticed minor changes he hadn't before. May or may not be placebo but it was enough for him to mention.
 
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another sean said:
Which @GlennAz has. From my understanding he's had it for over 50 years and was a poor candidate and he's still noticed minor changes he hadn't before. May or may not be placebo but it was enough for him to mention.
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From his audiogram, he has mixed sensorineural and conductive losses, hence why I think the bone conducting headphones Dr. Shim gave him helped.

Glenn, do you know the cause of the conductive portion?
 
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another sean said:
From my understanding he's had it for over 50 years and was a poor candidate
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More like 25 years with the hearing loss, over 50 with the tinnitus. Maybe I'm not a good candidate. Maybe I needed 4 weeks of treatments, not two. But it's not over yet for PRP. I still have a few weeks, and then will get a new audiogram.
My conversation skills are still not superb.

FGG, I'm not sure if bone conduction is a problem. In the past, I've always been told I have a sensorineural problem, not bone conduction... unless something changed.
I've been to loud rock concerts, seen Eric Clapton 20 feet in front of me, other musicians, taken the screeching NYC subways everyday to college, other stupid things.
But I just remembered something else. I've gotten common migraines (not classical with the aura) from the earliest age. For many years, to cope with them, before Imitrex came along, I took so much Aspirin everyday, in my teens, 20's, 30's.
I think Aspirin is ototoxic and causes ringing, so I've recently learned. Great.
But aspirin abuse would cause sensorineural problems.

I don't know what degree this treatment might help my hearing. But I'm still trying. Like everyone else here, I won't quit trying.
 
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Dr. Shim is a very caring doctor. I'm glad more people are realizing he's not a crooked scam artist.

Dr. Shim is getting ready to stick me with something. My eyes are totally shut and I'm trying to stay in my happy place.
I trust his skill completely and never worried about any complications.
His nurse is ready to help out.

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Still in my happy place. Dr. Shim would always do a little numbing first before sticking it thru your eardrum. It still was not pleasant, but certainly not excruciating.

Right about now, the room was spinning faster than anything I've ever experienced... like warp factor 13
Every injection was like that, but after about 20 min, maybe it was 30 min, everything went back to normal. No problems or anything permanent...

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I remember the spinning/dizziness sensation when I had my IT injections in 2010/2011 at Paparella and Shea. But I didn't have near the number of injections you have had. And mine were only in my left ear.

I sure hope you get your word recognition hearing back.
 
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another sean said:
My impression of him is positive. I dont sense he is scamming people. My impression of him is that he is genuinely trying to help people and to cure tinnitus. It's what I see in his online activity and coincides with both members here experience with him. He's taken a proven regenerative protocol, PRP, which you can find in numerous papers and is already used around the world in sports medicine successfully, and applying it locally to human ears.

He's not perfect though, but nit picking at everything including his personality would be disservice to the good he is doing in my mind.

There was the mentioning of the 2014 study he did which to my knowledge he has not released. When I put that together with the post by @Ed209 showing that he admitted that his treatment wasn't providing significant improvement, to me doesn't mean he failed as @Ed209 described, it means he had mild success and realized that increasing the duration of treatment would give better results. "No significant improvement" doesn't mean no improvement. I have no problem with that.

But perhaps why he didn't release the 2014 study was because he was using the shorter protocol and the results weren't impressive or as great as they are now with the longer treatment period so I can understand why someone wouldn't want to release unimpressive results. I get that.

What people fail to realize is the word 'practice' in medical practice. Doctors practice medicine. They are not perfect and that includes Dr. Minbo Shim. So I don't mind if he has to alter his treatment to improve upon it. That's what someone trying to perfect something does. A scammer wouldn't care. A scammer wouldn't admit to anything bad at all. Nada. Zero. It would be roses and daisies. But Dr. Minbo Shim does caution people who are not good candidates. And that's one thing I found about him, he's upfront with a lot of stuff that he could have omitted.

And here were have 2 members of this board who have gone to see him. @JohnAdams has had great success with it, so much so that he went back a second time fix another acoustic trauma. Like what more do you need? And @GlennAz, he hasn't had the same success as @JohnAdams but he also was not a good candidate for it to begin with, nevertheless, he is sensing some changes, albeit small ones. But again, he was never a good candidate to begin with so that seems to be expected.

I followed members of this board closely who went to StemCell21 and I am comparing that treatment to this and I find this one much more appealing. One major reason is safety. The cause of cancer/tumors is, from my understanding, eliminated or negligible. Also, I knew years ago that localized injections were more effective than IV based ones from a report from another members StemCell21 experience. So Dr. Minbo Shim is offering a safer, cheaper effective, localized protocol which to me is great. StemCell21 is over $30,000+.

Now it would be "nice" if @JohnAdams could ask Dr. Minbo Shim to speak to us about his protocol but if he can't, I don't see that as enough reason to vilify him. Maybe he's busy? Maybe he sees us as a bunch of crazy ass Westerners after reading through this thread ready to crucify him because we're crazy? On top of that, I would ask myself, what would my ENT do? He wouldn't do shit and Dr. Minbo Shim doesn't have to either. But it would be "nice". Hell, it would be nice if Dr. Minbo Shim got on a plane and came to my house and did the PRP treatment while I played Grand Theft Auto.

I get it. People want Minbo Shim to come on here to be sold that it works, and in a way entertained. I know I would. Heck, I wish @JohnAdams would vlog during his entire Korea trip and PRP sessions and become a YouTube sensation. But instead we are left with boring NCBI papers and other clinical trials indicating PRP can regenerate hearing and two US members overall positive experience indicating that this is a working treatment in varying degrees. If there are side effects or if a doctor can come here and explain to us why this protocol makes no sense at all, that would be great. My point is there is data elsewhere without the need to grill him here on Tinnitus Talk. If he doesn't want to divulge the finer details of his protocol, that's OK. Most doctors wouldn't. He took the risk and spent the time figuring this out. That's his secret sauce. Literally. He wants to profit from it and that's a pretty normal behavior. He isn't Mother Theresa but he's sure as hell doing more than most. And profiting from it doesn't mean his treatment doesn't work. And guarding the finer details of his treatment shows even more so, to me anyways, that it actually does work and why he's guarding some of it. And why would he get a patent if it didn't work? Scammers don't need no patent, homie. Again, the papers showing PRP's effectiveness is enough for me. I don't need to know how to make Minbo Shim Fancy Sauce. I just want to know that it works and its complications, and so far it has for @JohnAdams and both members had zero complications. Like what else do people want to know? It worked. The younger you are, the better it will work. Minbo Shim has made that very clear. That's it. Otherwise wait and see how Frequency Therapeutics turns out.
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Thanks for writing and putting your thoughts together, I know you took your time and I value your insights. There's a few things I'd call you on, or ask you perhaps to look at differently, but maybe another time if you're interested. No matter really.

It would have been sweet if JohnAdams had audiograms done in the United States before and then afterwards, but again, in the big picture... it doesn't matter. I trust JohnAdams and GlennAz.

What matters is that we all get better, and frankly I have to do my best with food and meditation at the moment as I don't have the financial resources to pursue any treatments.

Take care, thanks for taking the time to put your thoughts down.
 
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GlennAz said:
Still in my happy place. Dr. Shim would always do a little numbing first before sticking it thru your eardrum. It still was not pleasant, but certainly not excruciating.

Right about now, the room was spinning faster than anything I've ever experienced... like warp factor 13
Every injection was like that, but after about 20 min, maybe it was 30 min, everything went back to normal. No problems or anything permanent...

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This is really cool to see. Thanks for sharing.
 
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GlennAz said:
Still in my happy place. Dr. Shim would always do a little numbing first before sticking it thru your eardrum. It still was not pleasant, but certainly not excruciating.

Right about now, the room was spinning faster than anything I've ever experienced... like warp factor 13
Every injection was like that, but after about 20 min, maybe it was 30 min, everything went back to normal. No problems or anything permanent...

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That is an interesting photo. Is this supposed to be "the treatment"?

When I had my intratympanic injection, it was done with the head tilted at an angle such that the compound would be sitting "by the round window" (to help diffuse into the cochlea). It's a fairly specific angle unlike the horizontal body with head straight up showing in the picture.
 
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another sean said:
And how much would something like cost?
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It's a bit like asking "how long is a piece of rope?"
Clinical Trials are generally not cheap, but the cost is negligible compared to the reward brought on by a cure (financial, world recognition/fame, patients being cured/healthy, etc).
 
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Artemis2K said:
Perhaps this could answer your question? Not sure.

https://www.ors.org/Transactions/58/1650.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23211708
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3565396/
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Hi, thanks Artemis.

These three articles talk about PRP and athletes and its potential.

It also talks about how time in the centrifuge, protocol, can have a massive effect, as well as age and health. It also, like in the third article, says this is all new and needs to be researched more.

That's basically what I got, has anyone else read these?
 
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another sean said:
I've been trying to dig up more local info about Dr. Mimbo Shim 심민보 (always reminds me of mumbo jumbo) and the clinic 솔샘이비인후과. He's been pretty active on Naver.

(Use Google Chrome to translate).

He's written 140 blog posts here which are pretty brief.

He's answered 630 help question here.

Then in another blog with 86 more detailed posts here with plenty of audiograms and the last was written today so it's current.

I've actually read a lot of interesting and informative stuff after going through all this and it has helped me understand him a bit better.

My biggest question so far is what the heck is Ant Study Academy on top of his clinic and do they really just study ants?

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I am sadly unable to navigate the site in Korean, Sean, would it be possible for you to post some examples of audiograms of patients who received PRP over the last couple years? You mentioned audiograms, I'd love to have a look, as they will be of the most value since we are hoping for hearing regeneration.

Thanks, appreciate that if you or anyone finds the time.
 
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Daniel Lion said:
I am sadly unable to navigate the site in Korean, Sean, would it be possible for you to post some examples of audiograms of patients who received PRP over the last couple years? You mentioned audiograms, I'd love to have a look, as they will be of the most value since we are hoping for hearing regeneration.

Thanks, appreciate that if you or anyone finds the time.
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I can't navigate in Korean either. I used Google Chrome to translate it into English. That's why I mentioned using Google Chrome. It will translate it into English for you and stay in English as you navigate through the pages. It should ask you automatically if you want it translated. If not, then right click anywhere on the page and click Translate.
 
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another sean said:
I can't navigate in Korean either. I used Google Chrome to translate it into English. That's why I mentioned using Google Chrome. It will translate it into English for you and stay in English as you navigate through the pages. It should ask you automatically if you want it translated. If not, then right click anywhere on the page and click Translate.
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On on my kid's tablet, and just got it in English.

Thank you.
 
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GregCA said:
That is an interesting photo. Is this supposed to be "the treatment"?
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Well, I spent between 2-4 hours each day. He had to obtain the bone marrow or plasma, and that's after a couple different IV bottles. You didn't get one injection. You got a few syringes, sometimes spaced out, sometimes more together. I don't know why.

No, it was horizontal here. In the first picture I sent, you can see a little yellow pillow in the background. I got to use that pillow during IV, and while they did something and spun down my drawn blood or marrow. When it was time to get stuck, the pillow was taken away. Immediately after the injection(s), Dr. Shim would angle my head at a very specific angle to stay at. He was very meticulous about the angle, and might readjust my head, if I drifted a little out of it.

You tried not to swallow, he preferred you not talk, and not move. He didn't want the Eustachian tubes to open and maybe some middle ear drainage would occur.

Personally, I would have been more comfortable keeping the pillow.
 
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GlennAz said:
Well, I spent between 2-4 hours each day. He had to obtain the bone marrow or plasma, and that's after a couple different IV bottles. You didn't get one injection. You got a few syringes, sometimes spaced out, sometimes more together. I don't know why.

No, it was horizontal here. In the first picture I sent, you can see a little yellow pillow in the background. I got to use that pillow during IV, and while they did something and spun down my drawn blood or marrow. When it was time to get stuck, the pillow was taken away. Immediately after the injection(s), Dr. Shim would angle my head at a very specific angle to stay at. He was very meticulous about the angle, and might readjust my head, if I drifted a little out of it.

You tried not to swallow, he preferred you not talk, and not move. He didn't want the Eustachian tubes to open and maybe some middle ear drainage would occur.

Personally, I would have been more comfortable keeping the pillow.
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Warp factor 13.

You have got a lot of guts. Those pictures really bring it home, I have never seen that before... a very intense experience is putting it mildly. You are brave... well done on you.
 
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GregCA said:
That is an interesting photo. Is this supposed to be "the treatment"?

When I had my intratympanic injection, it was done with the head tilted at an angle such that the compound would be sitting "by the round window" (to help diffuse into the cochlea). It's a fairly specific angle unlike the horizontal body with head straight up showing in the picture.
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Same here and I was supposed to not swallow (if possible) or the liquid would go down your eustachian tube. I like the gel substance idea better that Otonomy and I believe Frequency is supposedly going to use. Also using a laser to make the initial hole in the eardrum is common in the state of the art ear clinics in the US.

The eardrum membrane is so sensitive. The Dr. missed the original hole he punctured once and did that ever sting.
 
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Daniel Lion said:
Hi, thanks Artemis.

These three articles talk about PRP and athletes and its potential.

It also talks about how time in the centrifuge, protocol, can have a massive effect, as well as age and health. It also, like in the third article, says this is all new and needs to be researched more.

That's basically what I got, has anyone else read these?
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Unfortunately there's only a handful that I could find when putting PRP and IGF1 together in keywords. Still, even though focused on sports related injuries, it does talk about IGF1 being in PRP and examples of healing potential. I think that's at least a good start.
 
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Daniel Lion said:
You have got a lot of guts. Those pictures really bring it home, I have never seen that before... a very intense experience is putting it mildly. You are brave... well done on you.
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Thanks for your kind words, but to be honest, it's more desperation, not bravery.
After the first week was done, and it was Sunday, in the flesh, I wanted to run away before the 2nd week started.

But I wanted the help, and wasn't going to be a total wuss about it.
Dr. Shim does have an option to put you to sleep. He mentioned that. I declined.
If this is something someone wants, he or she will find the strength to do it.
 
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grate_biff said:
Did you somewhat get accustomed to the vertigo/spinning feeling as you went along.

Or was it as bad every injection!
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I got vertigo every time, but some times were worse than others. I don't know if it was acclimation or not.

When he was squirting the syringe in my ear, I could feel cool fluid swishing around. It kinda felt like a water pic going thru your middle ear, instead of your teeth.
 
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@GlennAz, did Dr. Shim have some similar cases as yours in the past with good results? I know everyone is a little different. I don't know much about his anecdotal testimonies.
 
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another sean said:
Here are instructions on how to translate with Google Chrome on an Android Tablet.
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/173424?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en

Here are instructions on how to translate with Google Chrome on an iOS Tablet.
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/173424?co=GENIE.Platform=iOS&hl=en
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Hi bro,
I figured it out... I am an idiot.

Thank you for the effort, I got the website in English and scoped it out.

You are very kind taking the time out for me... appreciate that...

Be good... keep on keeping on...
 
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GlennAz said:
There were some patients older than me that got some results. I did see some audiograms on his website. He had someone in their 70's.

No one got total healing, just improvement.
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Thanks for your photos, your honesty, and checking in.
It means a lot to the community.

Cheers buddy...

We are all wishing you and JohnAdams success, peace, and happy days with better hearing.

Sincerely Daniel
 
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Artemis2K said:
Unfortunately there's only a handful that I could find when putting PRP and IGF1 together in keywords. Still, even though focused on sports related injuries, it does talk about IGF1 being in PRP and examples of healing potential. I think that's at least a good start.
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Agreed...

Take care and hope you had a good semester at University.

Be well.
 
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