MemberThis cancerous mindset plagues many communities of people with tinnitus and chronic pain or any other unresolvable hardship.
It doesn't work for the vast majority of people. They lie they are strong when they know they are weak.
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It doesn't work for the vast majority of people. They lie they are strong when they know they are weak.
- Aug 21, 2014
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How are you defining "work"?
The majority of people who strive to adopt such a mindset seem to avoid suicide and often report a life that brings them some amount of happiness. Not sure what more you're looking for? Living with chronic bullshit that can't be fixed sucks, but spending all your time obsessing about that doesn't do anyone any good, whether that's tinnitus or ALS or lyme neuropathy or any of the myriad ways the body breaks horribly. The whole idea that it could be any other way is an illusion sold to us by Pfizer ads.
I know I'm "weak" because I've got all kinds of support systems and crutches; this bothers me not at all. Ending days where I've been smiling more often than not is what matters, because the experience of each passing moment is all we've got.
- Aug 21, 2014
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- 1999
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I basically agree with you; thoughts have a mechanical reality behind them, and engaging willfully in anxious thinking keeps us in loops that exacerbates our distress.
That said, in defense of fatalism:
"The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night." – Friedrich Nietzsche
There is, fundamentally, some comfort in knowing that our existence is bounded and ultimately within our own control. I would never condone suicidal ideation as a coping mechanism, but I've had enough dark nights to stop short of wholesale condemnation.
Unfortunatelly, as it stands right now death is the only effective way to escape Tinnitus.
Hopefully bimodal stimulation can change this, but the jury is still out on that one as we speak.
Next couple of years will be very important for anyone, who's life is hanging in the balance.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,596
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
My noise is brutal when I wake up. Sometimes I think it's related to my neck. Other times seems just noise damage.
Same here !! Wake up from sleep and it's screaming but it does go down to the same level after the brain wakes up.
I went to a nurse practitioner because my dr is booked. Anyway, waste of time as I expected. I am told to just increase the dose of what I have already.
I suggested a muscle relaxer, made clear my anxiety (a hint of suggesting a benzo) and/or another sleeping medication.
My concern is the tinnitus but my clenching is making things worse. My jaw and teeth is misaligned and I have another problem in my mouth that I don't know what it's called. I am not supposed to talk about suicide now so I can't anywhere? Call it an escape or death but both mean not feeling all this anymore. End of suffering. Why is that frowned upon? Why is it banned or restricted? I don't understand why people want others to suffer. I can't help it if this is happening to me. Give a time machine and I will do whatever is necessary to avoid and prevent this from happening. But, I can't. Instead, I am tortured and I want it to stop now. I don't want to have this anymore.
I suggested a muscle relaxer, made clear my anxiety (a hint of suggesting a benzo) and/or another sleeping medication.
My concern is the tinnitus but my clenching is making things worse. My jaw and teeth is misaligned and I have another problem in my mouth that I don't know what it's called. I am not supposed to talk about suicide now so I can't anywhere? Call it an escape or death but both mean not feeling all this anymore. End of suffering. Why is that frowned upon? Why is it banned or restricted? I don't understand why people want others to suffer. I can't help it if this is happening to me. Give a time machine and I will do whatever is necessary to avoid and prevent this from happening. But, I can't. Instead, I am tortured and I want it to stop now. I don't want to have this anymore.
Who has ear pain, dental problems (teeth pain, misalignment), piercing loud high pitched tinnitus and being broke, not able to work or sleep properly because of all just mentioned?!?!?!?
This is why I want to end this. I don't want to as I still love my dog and I was content with life before tinnitus. My jaw and teeth were normal. I thought my life was something worth living. Now, I want the suffering to end. The noise is torture right at this moment. I can't live like this.
This is why I want to end this. I don't want to as I still love my dog and I was content with life before tinnitus. My jaw and teeth were normal. I thought my life was something worth living. Now, I want the suffering to end. The noise is torture right at this moment. I can't live like this.
fishbone
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- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
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- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
I love how ignorant this post is.....You have no clue what hell and demons some folks face and how they overcome it. Do not speak for others!!!!
You might want to consider the fact, that there are people who suffer more than you do.
Be it due to their personality, genetic make up or brain chemistry (or a combination of all of the above), but that is not relevant here.
Their suffering is real and that is what some of you fail to understand.
You might be good at dealing with your Tinnitus due to the factors I already mentioned above, but do not assume that to be the case for other people.
There is no level playing field here and everyone experiences Tinnitus differently.
- Jan 1, 2019
- 708
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- Steadily worsening since 2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Unknown
So what do you suggest people do?
Very few people give a shit that I am a chronic pain sufferer and have tinnitus. I still have to work. It's just something I have to deal with and continue living with because I mean a lot to a few other people. It sucks, but I'm not going to destroy their lives by self-destructing. I'm not the most important person in my life.
One is 10mg. 1 to 3. I think it doesn't matter.
I can't live like this.
I know a lot of mild and moderate tinnitus people are replying to this thread. Some use chainsaws, motorcycles, listen to music, go to downtown shows or whatever else. They can laugh and tell jokes. I noticed some of the things posted are a joke. But, this is no joke.
Others are upset regarding what is said and posted in these kinds of threads. I think there is a denial among the population that tinnitus can be severe. It can be so severe that one can hardly function. One tries to function but the tinnitus noises are just too intrusive.
Right now, the number of tones, the high volume and pitch is so bad... I want to live a normal life and work but these noises in my ears/my head...
Nothing helps. Normal people see nothing wrong. They sure don't hear it. I know people here try to be supportive but no one hears what I do. It hasn't reduced or gone away. I won't have a way to support myself and I don't want to live with this.
I wish I could go do it already. But, it's so intrusive, it's not like a normal person deciding to suicide.
It just pains me that so many are in denial how bad tinnitus can get in terms of volume and pitch. Or intensity. I think this is one of the most severe cases. I don't know why it is so loud. Not one person has explained that. No one in society cares about this condition so I say it's worse than most health problems and afflictions. It's invisible suffering and torment.
Benzo time bro.
Valium...
Take 20 milligrams and call me in the morning.
Fight for it... I think you'll be happier.
Fabrikat
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- May 1, 2017
- 416
- Tinnitus Since
- 1973
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Otosclerosis then volume then viral infection
This stuff spikes my tinnitus horribly! It may be doing the same to you too. Try Remeron or perhaps a benzo, but only if you're judicious with it. It comes with issues of its own.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,596
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
Here is a link I posted in the past regarding TMJ disorder. I've seen this Dr. and he thought my left jaw was one of the causes of tinnitus. I have clicking and crepitus in my left jaw. I wear a appliance while sleeping for sleep apnea and TMD. You could look into a splint and see if it helps your jaw pain and tinnitus.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/possible-tmj.26586/#post-307927
- Jun 13, 2019
- 1,108
- Tinnitus Since
- 10/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Started with a cold, possibly worsened by medication/noise
@PeteJ there are people with severe tinnitus who replied here. As I mentioned in another thread I cry every day as I don't know how to go on. I can hardy work anymore and have children depending on me. I am depressed and anxious but medication is a minefield, I am already on one and it's not helping , perhaps it is doing harm and I cannot stop it. I have balance problems and other neurological issues. Others who replied here have severe forms and can't work anymore. We try to keep going as we wait for a cure or treatment. We get it, it's very hard. But there are people with severe tinnitus who are managing to go on. Perhaps we may learn from them.
20mg diazepam is too much.
5mg diazepam in the evening would be a normal starting dose.
If necessary Z-drug would be better for sleeping (e.g. 10mg Zolpidem).
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Agree, 20 mg is likely too much. For some people, even 5 mg might be too much. I have a prescription for the lowest dosage possible, which is 2 mg. I cut it into quarters, and only take .5 mg at a time, and I get a calming effect for several hours. Yesterday, I even cut that in half to .25 mg, and I still got several hours "relative relief".
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,596
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
I was last taking 10 mg diazepam tablets and switched to .5 mg clonazepam twice/day. It probably depends on body mass on the effective dosage.
Most of the effect might be placebo effect at that low dosage - but if it works for you, it's great.
Body mass, yes.
And an individual's bio chemistry.
I was recommending 10 mg before bed. And perhaps another 10 mg when he woke up. 4 hours later another 10 mg tab. Why? Because his nervous system is shot.
It would be safer to recommend cutting my dosage in half the first night or two, or for the two to three week drug regiment, perhaps longer... unfortunately.
PeteJ strikes me as somebody who needs a few weeks sleep, even if it's drug induced.
I recommend the fast acting tranquilizer that worked for me when I was in a bad way.
We can all agree he's in great pain.
I am hoping Pete can get some rest,
Big hug PeteJ
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