Suicidal

Very poignant, @Christiaan, and indeed as @Kriszti says there is basically very little to no help. Even benzos don't work for me, at least at reasonable doses. I suspect they actually make things worse.

You are right to warn people about noise but this hellish condition can hit you also simply because of a cold, stress or medication. There is no excuse for medicine to have underplayed this horror for so long. I have found empathetic doctors who want to help me but they don't know how and I often show them research papers myself to try medications.

I'm so sorry you are going through this. We can put some hope in the upcoming treatments, the question is whether we will make it till then. I don't feel I can make it unless this horrid progression stops and reverts. I hope you can make it.
 
I managed to habituate to my tinnitus pretty well since last week. I heard it at night but didn't care at all. However now I am focusing on the hissing again, and I am legit feeling it louder, and I am afraid to go suicidal.

Is this a spike or just my anxiety?
 
Most people on Reddit said .5mg Xanax once per week is not enough to build tolerance. Do you have anything to back up your claim?

Most upvoted comment:

You absolutely wouldn't gain a tolerance. If you find yourself looking forward to that once a week where you get to take your .5, you might want to put yourself in check, but realistically with that kinda dosage, once a week is super unlikely.

Second most upvoted:

52 pills in a year. I think you will be just fine.
Well your source is random redditors? I suppose as long as you exercise careful self-control then you will be fine. However it is easy to slip into the "just one more bar" mentality.
 
The only reason why I'm still alive is because of my parents and also because of OTO-413/FX-322. Hopefully, in a year or two, we will all find the relieve we all long for.
For what it's worth, I'm just a common folk, but I am very optimistic about OTO-413/FX-322 for noise-induced sufferers -- in particular that it will reduce the intrusiveness of tinnitus. I can't speak for other conditions, but logic says that noise-induced sufferers have hair cell/synapse damage. If I was a noise-induced case, I would absolutely not kill myself before we know the possible benefits of these medications. And actually, SPI-1005 should be out soon as well, which could help some.
 
Well your source is random redditors? I suppose as long as you exercise careful self-control then you will be fine. However it is easy to slip into the "just one more bar" mentality.
Drug enthusiasts and my psychiatrist.

Edit: I like having a time out period every week. I know I can't extend it beyond that. Looking forward to Xanax + PS5 next month.
 
For what it's worth, I'm just a common folk, but I am very optimistic about OTO-413/FX-322 for noise-induced sufferers -- in particular that it will reduce the intrusiveness of tinnitus. I can't speak for other conditions, but logic says that noise-induced sufferers have hair cell/synapse damage. If I was a noise-induced case, I would absolutely not kill myself before we know the possible benefits of these medications. And actually, SPI-1005 should be out soon as well, which could help some.
Agreed here. I think the combination of these three meds will bring even the most severe noxacusis sufferers back to an only hearing T in quiet room stage and also completely eliminate the pain and loudness since input to the cochlea will be restored (going off current theories). In fact, SPI-1005 could be on the market as soon as 2021 for off-label use and it will eliminate hyperacusis inflammation.

Too exciting of a time to be offing ourselves yet.
 
I managed to habituate to my tinnitus pretty well since last week. I heard it at night but didn't care at all. However now I am focusing on the hissing again, and I am legit feeling it louder, and I am afraid to go suicidal.

Is this a spike or just my anxiety?
It's really hard to tell. Were you exposed to loud sounds, tried new medicine, slept worse or did anything out of the ordinary happen?

If it's only louder when you are focusing on it, possibly it's anxiety.
 
I'm so sorry to read the comments and the feelings of utter despair and fear. These are normal reactions, but they are terrifying.

I experienced what I believe to be similar when my tinnitus started in March this year. I spiralled. It was the worst time of my life, I thought my life was over and I searched online daily for any possible cures or glimmers of hope whilst numerous docs appointments / MRIs / hearing tests said that there was nothing wrong.

This is a bold thing to write so please bear with me and allow yourself to believe as much of this as possible, because I have seen it with my own experience:

- You can live a normal, healthy life again, even with tinnitus
- There is no magic cure
- It is hard work and not a quick fix, but focus inward
- Our brains are amazing things that can either work for or against us - the trick is to start using it as your ally
- The best thing I ever did was to focus on Dr Bruce Hubbard's work. He lives with tinnitus and helps others by relaying the facts and by CBT sessions to help you re-wire your brain

https://www.cbtfortinnitus.com/

If you're struggling - please try watching his 90 min webinar about tinnitus. Please also reach out to him - he can hold virtual coaching sessions and offer support.

Please consider getting yourself the support of a great counsellor or therapist. Tinnitus feels like a physical illness, but it's such a mental one to overcome and you CAN do it.

Thinking of you all xxx
 
Agreed here. I think the combination of these three meds will bring even the most severe noxacusis sufferers back to an only hearing T in quiet room stage and also completely eliminate the pain and loudness since input to the cochlea will be restored (going off current theories). In fact, SPI-1005 could be on the market as soon as 2021 for off-label use and it will eliminate hyperacusis inflammation.

Too exciting of a time to be offing ourselves yet.[/QUOTE so could it be possible that any of the future regenerative medicine will fix distorted hearing too? The dysacusis?
 
so could it be possible that any of the future regenerative medicine will fix distorted hearing too? The dysacusis?
Very possible, since dysacusis is likely either a result of inflammation or damaged hair cells, both of which are being worked on. I also notice that my dysacusis tends to get worse after a setback, telling me it has something to do with inflammation. Sound Pharmaceuticals' SPI-1005 should be available for off-label use sometime early 2021.
There is no magic cure
I have a feeling there will be very very soon ;) Also, tinnitus is a very physical condition caused by cochlear damage or head trauma.
 
Very possible, since dysacusis is likely either a result of inflammation or damaged hair cells, both of which are being worked on. I also notice that my dysacusis tends to get worse after a setback, telling me it has something to do with inflammation. Sound Pharmaceuticals' SPI-1005 should be available for off-label use sometime early 2021.

I have a feeling there will be very very soon ;) Also, tinnitus is a very physical condition caused by cochlear damage or head trauma.
How long will we really have to wait? It would be nice if these drugs can come out next year. I was born with severe hearing loss too but my dysacusis and reactive tinnitus came from a virus so I'm hoping some of these drugs could also help me.

The ironic thing is I took multiple hearing tests after this and it shows my hearing loss has remained the same as it was so either inner ear inflammation made my mild tinnitus severe or something. Not sure what exactly this virus did to give me reactive tinnitus as there was no vertigo or vomiting, just a cold, but it was last November.
 
How long will we really have to wait? It would be nice if these drugs can come out next year. I was born with severe hearing loss too but my dysacusis and reactive tinnitus came from a virus so I'm hoping some of these drugs could also help me.
Q1-Q2 2021 for SPI-1005, 2023-2025 for FX-322, 2024-2026 for OTO-413.
 
Benzo class drugs (especially Clonazepam) will help your tinnitus not only on a psychological level, but also on a pure "sound level" aspect, as it is pretty well known now Glutamate plays a huge role in the loudness perceived.
Not so many people on this board take these drugs, but I know for some of them it's the only way they can function.

Yet, there's a price to pay on the long run being on these drugs.

The question is are you ready to pay the price when time comes in order to get immediate relief (as little as it may be).

I am personally ready to pay the price, I do benzos, which is the only support that keeps me barely functioning. I'll deal with the consequences later, when treatments come for tinnitus in the upcoming years.

If I were in your situation, and believe me, I'm in a very dark place, I wouldn't hesitate to do anything and get it prescribed at least for a short period of time, just before your reach addiction and only to realize your sounds can get lower.

But keep it in mind: price to pay.
Benzos ruined my life after only 3 months used nightly for sleep. Dangerous withdrawal symptoms had me thinking way darker thoughts along with depersonalization/derealization than tinnitus and hyperacusis ever did. I highly regret taking them and am still suffering protracted effects including worse insomnia and anxiety than before I took them.
 
We would have to get a prescription from the doctor for these drugs right? Sorry I'm still learning about this stuff.
FX-322 is an injection and OTO-413 is a pill and both are administered by ENTs. SPI-1005 is prescription.

Benzos ruined my life after only 3 months used nightly for sleep. Dangerous withdrawal symptoms had me thinking way darker thoughts along with depersonalization/derealization than tinnitus and hyperacusis ever did. I highly regret taking them and am still suffering protracted effects including worse insomnia and anxiety than before I took them.
What were you taking and how much?
 
FX-322 is an injection and OTO-413 is a pill and both are administered by ENTs. SPI-1005 is prescription.
I'm worried the doctor won't prescribe those drugs to me :/ the drugs won't only be for noise induced hearing loss, right? I mean I was born with my hearing loss and I have an ear that is like 85 percent deaf with sensorineural hearing loss.
 
Benzos ruined my life after only 3 months used nightly for sleep. Dangerous withdrawal symptoms had me thinking way darker thoughts along with depersonalization/derealization than tinnitus and hyperacusis ever did. I highly regret taking them and am still suffering protracted effects including worse insomnia and anxiety than before I took them.
As I said, there might be a price to pay.

Then again, we are all so different. I've seen people quit after years and years of continuous benzo use with no withdrawal symptom whatsoever.

There's no general rule that can apply here.
 
30 years ago I joined the ATA. I stopped giving them money after two years. I then decided to join again this year. I'm reading mostly the same articles from 30 years ago. Don't waste your money.
Agree, they don't deserve a dime unless they reform, but to be fair, the research they fund is cure based.
 
Benzos ruined my life after only 3 months used nightly for sleep. Dangerous withdrawal symptoms had me thinking way darker thoughts along with depersonalization/derealization than tinnitus and hyperacusis ever did. I highly regret taking them and am still suffering protracted effects including worse insomnia and anxiety than before I took them.
What method of tapering did you use?
 
A new article on Glenn Mitchell's story published today:

Tinnitus from pub gig made life unbearable for retired fireman who committed suicide

His wife had to explicitly say that he "didn't want to die". Obviously, otherwise the public would say he was just mentally unstable.

Guess he relied on the NHS instead of the tinnitus community to seek advice.
This man had been a firefighter, had probably been exposed to very loud sirens for years. He went on disability due to an injury and at some point went to a loud club and got tinnitus, which apparently cause him to start thinking of suicide immediately. He tried to kill himself within weeks of getting tinnitus. He failed the first time but was successful within a couple of months.

I'm sorry to say, but this man sounds mentally unstable to me. Maybe it was the meds he was given, or something else that pushed him over the edge. At one point, during his tinnitus depression, his wife decided to attend music shows, without him. What kind of a person would do this, when married so someone that is extremely depressed about having tinnitus and hyperacusis?
 
Drug enthusiasts and my psychiatrist.

Edit: I like having a time out period every week. I know I can't extend it beyond that. Looking forward to Xanax + PS5 next month.
Only 0.5mg once a week? My god man, my hearing issues now aren't half as bad as yours sound and yet I thought I was disciplined sticking with 1mg Klonopin a day :ROFL: How DO YOU exercise such self-control!

Ya, I think you'll be ok. And I agree that everybody is different with Benzos, but the scaremongering here is just comical.

Don't apologize for looking forward to taking it. There are too few pleasures in life as it is even without fucking tinnitus.
 
I'm worried the doctor won't prescribe those drugs to me :/ the drugs won't only be for noise induced hearing loss, right? I mean I was born with my hearing loss and I have an ear that is like 85 percent deaf with sensorineural hearing loss.
It would depend on what caused the hearing loss i would think. If you had hair cell loss in utero from a CMV infection, for instance, I don't see why this wouldn't work but if you have a Otoferlin mutation or other genetic deafness it may not be. It really depends.

FX-322 is not just for noise induced. Tinnitus Talk did a podcast with the company and it's worth listening to (and is captioned if needed):

Hearing Lost and Found — Frequency Therapeutics (and captions)
 
This man had been a firefighter, had probably been exposed to very loud sirens for years. He went on disability due to an injury and at some point went to a loud club and got tinnitus, which apparently cause him to start thinking of suicide immediately. He tried to kill himself within weeks of getting tinnitus. He failed the first time but was successful within a couple of months.

I'm sorry to say, but this man sounds mentally unstable to me. Maybe it was the meds he was given, or something else that pushed him over the edge. At one point, during his tinnitus depression, his wife decided to attend music shows, without him. What kind of a person would do this, when married so someone that is extremely depressed about having tinnitus and hyperacusis?
Clearly he killed himself because his wife went to concerts without him. I found this article quite good because most of such articles imply that the one who committed suicide must have done so because of some mental health problem instead of tinnitus.
 

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