yeah same hereI'm not certain if it has something to do with somatic and non somatic tinnitus. I can modulate mine with my jaw.
yeah same hereI'm not certain if it has something to do with somatic and non somatic tinnitus. I can modulate mine with my jaw.
who knows bro. how are you taking it? dosage? time? etc?I'm currently trying curcumin. Taken it two days. Both days I have experienced intermittent spiking. Possibly intermittent because I'm on clonazepam?
who knows bro. how are you taking it? dosage? time? etc?
Will you share your dosage/time of dosage/brand? It would be helpful.Just sharing my experience with curcumin. Was taking it for a few days and felt that overall my tinnitus was a lot louder/disruptive. I cut it out for a few days and all was good, and then when I took it again to test it out my ear started spiking/acting up within 5 mins. Could be a coincidence but jeez it was quick.
So I guess curcumin doesn't work for me and all issues were temporary so no dramas
Wow GoatSheep, sociology and religious studies. I studied fine art. Surprised we haven't met at the soup kitchen or homeless shelter... We are real examples of what not to do in a capitalist society.......ooops.I took it in capsule with a meal. Theracumin brand. Says only 30mg though but boasts of its bioavailability. I'm not versed in this stuff. My majors in school were sociology and religious studies lol.
Will you share your dosage/time of dosage/brand? It would be helpful.
Please, don't stop what you're doing on this forum. Peace.Will you share your dosage/time of dosage/brand? It would be helpful.
It absorbs very poorly without food.The last time I took it was around 10-11pm and took them without food.
I'll meet you there. I'm another social scientist.Wow GoatSheep, sociology and religious studies. I studied fine art. Surprised we haven't met at the soup kitchen or homeless shelter... We are real examples of what not to do in a capitalist society.......ooops.
What's this? I've taken curcumin and it never made my palms or nails yellow. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that... it shouldn't color most people's skin? That must be a defect in the human being in question if it does?My palms/nails are not the slightest bit yellow, so I guess the curcumin hasn't been fully absorbed in the body yet.
@JohnAdams said it coloured the soles of his feet and his palms yellow. I also had this effect last time I took it... It wasn't prominent, just a light yellow tint in my palms and if I washed my hands and dryed them with toilet paper it rubbed off a little yellow.What's this? I've taken curcumin and it never made my palms or nails yellow. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that... it shouldn't color most people's skin? That must be a defect in the human being in question if it does?
The quantity you take is not indicative of what goes in your blood and not indicative of the action it will have.
Curcumin have a very poor absorbtion and is not soluble in water, which mean if you take it with lot of water it will basically not absorbed at all.
On the other hand it's liposoluble so it will have a good absorbtion in fat, and it's actually recommended to take it with fish oil for example.
Another thing is that there is multiple forms of curcumin, conjugate or free. But the conjugate form have a poorer bio availability and also a poorer activity...
So the quantity, and even the concentration of curcumin means nothing, because in the end we're only interested in the free form of curcumin and what actually goes in blood and have an anti-inflammatory activity.
That's why the color of your palms or fingernails also doesn't mean much because it is not an indicator that the free anti-inflammatory form is in your blood, but rather that's you have all form of curcumin that went through and are coloring your skin.
That's why taking 12g or 3g means nothing. That's why quantity means nothing. 10g with only 1% of curcumin going into your blood with 20% of its active form would have the same effect as 0.2g with 10% going into blood and 10% of free active form.
I would add that most products you will find have piperine which is actually bad for bowels (that's why some people there had belly-ache by taking supplement of curcumin with piperine in big quantity) and also let heavy metals and other toxins go easier into the blood. It's like opening the door but not just for curcumin but for every bad stuff because it deactives some enzyme of your liver that would normally filter what you eat.
Also this patent is free of use that's why so many brands use it and put piperine in their supplements but it's shit.
There's not many patents that make the bioavailability of free active form of curcumin better: Longvida is the first one and the most well known, and Nutriphy Curcumin 102 (aka CurQfen) is the second one. But of course they are much more expensive.
Be careful also with the nano particles that are added because they go through every barrier in the body because they are so small, and we don't know the effect it could have (trust me, I studied nano-materials and had even a class on its danger in the body) so don't take something if you see titan dioxyde (E171). It will actually be prohibited in France in 2020.
Here is some link in French with a lot of citations of research done. It's a really good summary.
https://www.santescience.fr/curcumine-libre-vs-conjuguee/
I can't tell if it is better, it would require data on it, scientific papers...Great post. Do you think Liposoma Curcumin is better than Longvida or Nutriphy?
I can't tell if it is better, it would require data on it, scientific papers...
But I do agree with the analysis, curcumin requires fat, and Micelles technique is a good technique that is actually not only used for curcumin but for a lot of other extracts and supplements.
I also know for example Novasol use that technique.
But you have to be careful to with the Micelles used, for example soya lecithine (if you are allergic) or polysorbate that is potentially harmful (link to cancer?)
I could not find a trace of their patent, or studies on liposomal curcumin. So while the theory is ok, I can't know how it does in real life.
The results should be quick. If it's not doing anything for you then up the dose. If you take enough with food, your fingers will turn yellow.I am now over a week into a daily dose of curcumin. My hyperacusis is still spiking
I'm hoping some improvement will come soon. My palms/nails are not the slightest bit yellow, so I guess the curcumin hasn't been fully absorbed in the body yet.
Why do you constantly insult people in this forum? You must really be a miserable human being.What's this? I've taken curcumin and it never made my palms or nails yellow. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that... it shouldn't color most people's skin? That must be a defect in the human being in question if it does?
It absorbs very poorly without food.
Really? Congratulations.Ok so I'm back with a new experience. Tried it again today after a meal with no water. Took 1 tablet (600mg) and now my tinnitus is extremely quiet, like barely a whisper even when plugging my ears. This level of quiet has happened before on good days, but it was quite loud this morning and has appeared to go right down after taking the tablet.
It could be a coincidence but I might keep experimenting with curcumin.
As curcumin is hydrophobic, I would not mix it with juice or any liquid. Supposedly this could make the absorption even less effective than it already is.I take my curcumin in pure powder form mixed into about 50 ml. of juice, added with a bit of pepper. And I take it with a meal (with fat). I should think that it would get absorbed well in my body then.
I'll keep at it and see what happens with time...
That is a good news, but as you said it could be a coincidence, as tinnitus is really random and can act down for days without you doing anything.Ok so I'm back with a new experience. Tried it again today after a meal with no water. Took 1 tablet (600mg) and now my tinnitus is extremely quiet, like barely a whisper even when plugging my ears. This level of quiet has happened before on good days, but it was quite loud this morning and has appeared to go right down after taking the tablet.
It could be a coincidence but I might keep experimenting with curcumin.
The quantity you take is not indicative of what goes in your blood and not indicative of the action it will have.
Curcumin have a very poor absorbtion and is not soluble in water, which mean if you take it with lot of water it will basically not absorbed at all.
On the other hand it's liposoluble so it will have a good absorbtion in fat, and it's actually recommended to take it with fish oil for example.
Another thing is that there is multiple forms of curcumin, conjugate or free. But the conjugate form have a poorer bio availability and also a poorer activity...
So the quantity, and even the concentration of curcumin means nothing, because in the end we're only interested in the free form of curcumin and what actually goes in blood and have an anti-inflammatory activity.
That's why the color of your palms or fingernails also doesn't mean much because it is not an indicator that the free anti-inflammatory form is in your blood, but rather that's you have all form of curcumin that went through and are coloring your skin.
That's why taking 12g or 3g means nothing. That's why quantity means nothing. 10g with only 1% of curcumin going into your blood with 20% of its active form would have the same effect as 0.2g with 10% going into blood and 10% of free active form.
I would add that most products you will find have piperine which is actually bad for bowels (that's why some people there had belly-ache by taking supplement of curcumin with piperine in big quantity) and also let heavy metals and other toxins go easier into the blood. It's like opening the door but not just for curcumin but for every bad stuff because it deactives some enzyme of your liver that would normally filter what you eat.
Also this patent is free of use that's why so many brands use it and put piperine in their supplements but it's shit.
There's not many patents that make the bioavailability of free active form of curcumin better: Longvida is the first one and the most well known, and Nutriphy Curcumin 102 (aka CurQfen) is the second one. But of course they are much more expensive.
Be careful also with the nano particles that are added because they go through every barrier in the body because they are so small, and we don't know the effect it could have (trust me, I studied nano-materials and had even a class on its danger in the body) so don't take something if you see titan dioxyde (E171). It will actually be prohibited in France in 2020.
Here is some link in French with a lot of citations of research done. It's a really good summary.
https://www.santescience.fr/curcumine-libre-vs-conjuguee/