2020 US Presidential Election

@Luman and @Born To Slay

How about both of you knock that Might Makes Right shit off, please?

It doesn't fucking matter who would win in combat or warfare or whatever. We have elections to avoid that.
 
It's interesting that coronavirus seems less deadly to younger populations in Canada than the United States. I'd have to research how different Canadian lifestyles are compared to ours to see that.

But your article doesn't say this is a hoax of any kind, it just says it's not as bad as it could've been. Which is true, but it's still pretty bad.

Here's the numbers on COVID-19 deaths in the US:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
 
Team Trump has only won 1 out of the 39 lawsuits regarding the vote count, yet 88% of House and Senate GOP representatives do not acknowledge that Joe Biden has won.

Link:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-2020-election/index.html

From the article:

[...] 220 House and Senate Republicans refused to take a position on who won the 2020 election. Which is 88% of all of the Republicans in Congress. Which is stunning.


The whole party should be remembered for this. Sitting back and saying nothing in defense of Democracy and the will of their people.

Meanwhile, people with guns are outside the house of a politician and her four year old child, demanding that she overturn the results of the election, and Trump is calling a Republican colleague who refuses to do so an enemy of the people!

They are reporting here that this situation could turn into a civil war. I know Americans will have a better understanding of the situation than our press will, but I can't believe that politicians being threatened with guns is normal.

The GOP need to speak up and protect the people. They are the party in power, and they're letting it happen.
 
It's interesting that coronavirus seems less deadly to younger populations in Canada than the United States. I'd have to research how different Canadian lifestyles are compared to ours to see that.

But your article doesn't say this is a hoax of any kind, it just says it's not as bad as it could've been. Which is true, but it's still pretty bad.

Here's the numbers on COVID-19 deaths in the US:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
My point was this was a journalist who was an alarmist who changed his mind based on data that convinced him that the official narrative is inaccurate and how public health, his media colleagues and politicians are not informing the public. Thus, using common sense, one could suggest there is collusion in this lie.

I think COVID-1984 is a planned con job and COVID-19(TM) is way overblown but that journalist is not there yet. He may never be but the point is, if you investigate for yourself and that means reading other stuff out there, not just MSM "COVID-19 alarmist" material, you should reach a different perspective. If you have any common sense at all.

The US and Canadian lifestyles are pretty similar but you obviously don't understand the points of the article.

Many PCR tests give false positives and it's a fact that hospitals were counting COVID-19 as cause of death even if there was another health issue responsible, thus, skewing stats upwards. Also, deaths are usually consisting of the elderly.

Did you not read the entire article?
 
it'll never happen.
Don't be naive.

We're veering into that gray area between normal politics and civil war.

I also don't think it's a good idea to goad on people who are talking up guns and civil war. The rhetoric comes first, then the actions. Don't assume some of these people won't eventually wind themselves up enough to start killing people.
 
Dem->mail-in and GOP-in-person and then claiming ahead of time that mail-in votes were automatically suspect.
Mail-in votes would be more apt to be fraudulent as not all states do a signature match plus the volume in this years mail-in votes was massive. If the Democrats supported protests, including rooting and rioting, why wouldn't they then also potentially cheat on voting? They probably also threatened people's lives as well if they didn't go along with this corruption.
 
@Luman and @Born To Slay

How about both of you knock that Might Makes Right shit off, please?

It doesn't fucking matter who would win in combat or warfare or whatever. We have elections to avoid that.
It's the Republicans who have been far more peaceful, and civilized, during this health crisis and election. We all know that the Democrats would have rioted if Trump had won. There may come a day when people will get sick of the rioting, arson, looting and attacks against innocent people, whenever the Democrats feel like asserting themselves, and that may necessitate a No More Mr. Nice Guy moment for the Republicans, to restore order and civility.
 
Mail-in votes would be more apt to be fraudulent as not all states do a signature match plus the volume in this years mail-in votes was massive. If the Democrats supported protests, including rooting and rioting, why wouldn't they then also potentially cheat on voting? They probably also threatened people's lives as well if they didn't go along with this corruption.
Funnily enough though the states Trump is questioning, like Georgia, *do* signature match at the time the ballot is received.

Every single fraud allegation has turned out to be false. It should be obvious what this really is: a last ditch effort and a money grift from supporters on the way out.
 
Don't be naive.

We're veering into that gray area between normal politics and civil war.

I also don't think it's a good idea to goad on people who are talking up guns and civil war. The rhetoric comes first, then the actions. Don't assume some of these people won't eventually wind themselves up enough to start killing people.
Gray area? Trump's coup is a miserable failure and if anything, just proves how well America's democracy is built. All that's going to happen is Biden gets inaugurated and well all move on. The Trump people are just going to whine and bitch like they do anyway. I know things look dangerous but honestly, it seems overblown imo.
 
All that's going to happen is Biden gets inaugurated and well all move on.
Let's just say I hope you're right. I just think there is a strong strain of American exceptionalism that posits that "it can't happen here". That can lead to complacency. There is sort of a social rot going on in the fabric of society that may wind up more dangerous than COVID-19.
 
If it comes down to civil war, with the Republicans holding over twice the firepower, I'd say that the Democrats would be in for a bloodbath. Democrats won't be able to sustain themselves against those with superior military experience and strategic combat skills.
 
If it comes down to civil war, with the Republicans holding over twice the firepower, I'd say that the Democrats would be in for a bloodbath. Democrats won't be able to sustain themselves against those with superior military experience and strategic combat skills.
Right wing militias count as "superior military experience"?

The actual military is very split:

US troops favor Biden for president, but Trump has a big lead among veterans, polls show

And many active and former high ranking generals oppose Trump.

Not that it will come to any of that, though that kind of civil war is literally the biggest fantasy of groups like the Proud Boys.
 
Right wing militias count as "superior military experience"?

The actual military is very split:

US troops favor Biden for president, but Trump has a big lead among veterans, polls show

And many active and former high ranking generals oppose Trump.

Not that it will come to any of that, though that kind of civil war is literally the biggest fantasy of groups like the Proud Boys.
Can you see anybody from the US military, whether they like or hate Trump, aligning themselves with BLM, which is led by avowed Marxists? This is what they would have to do, to become allies of the Democrats.

I personally think Trump was one hundred percent correct in his criticism of the generals' handling of Afghanistan. Somebody has to tell the truth, and Trump did. We've been in that godforsaken place since 2001. What the hell are have the Joint Chiefs been doing in the Pentagon, playing tiddlywinks all day for the better part of two decades?
 
Can you see anybody from the US military, whether they like or hate Trump, aligning themselves with BLM, which is led by avowed Marxists? This is what they would have to do, to become allies of the Democrats.

I personally think Trump was one hundred percent correct in his criticism of the generals' handling of Afghanistan. Somebody has to tell the truth, and Trump did. We've been in that godforsaken place since 2001. What the hell are have the Joint Chiefs been doing in the Pentagon, playing tiddlywinks all day for the better part of two decades?
I prefer the "Red Scare" over the Whore of Babylon stuff at least.

But it's such a walk to connect those dots. One early activist/founder of BLM supported Marxism and suddenly:

Half the country, half the military, most of Hollywood, most people from urban areas, most professional athletes are all Marxists affiliates because they support Biden.

There are probably Scientologists who support BLM too but that doesn't make it a Scientology organization (even if one of the founders was).

Biden is as centrist as ever and in fact *doesn't support reducing police funding* which was one of the primary BLM goals to reduce police militarization.

So this Biden support = Marxism is the biggest stretch/right wing freakout since OANN had a segment on how not revealing a penguins's gender at a zoo during naming was a way to indoctrinate children to a leftist agenda (John Oliver had the clip of this).
 
What they say doesn't matter. What matters is the negative emotions they try to evoke. I watched the Georgia debate last night and every time that chick opened her mouth she recited "radical leftist". She looked and sounded like a literal NPC robot. Her eyes just glazed over and she repeated that mantra again and again and again. And if Republicans don't want to be seen as cretins who only do what they're manipulated into doing by appealing to brain-stem then they should recognize this and not just go tribal and get triggered over said criticism. Republicans deserve better than this paint-by-numbers name-calling BS.

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It's interesting that coronavirus seems less deadly to younger populations in Canada than the United States. I'd have to research how different Canadian lifestyles are compared to ours to see that.

But your article doesn't say this is a hoax of any kind, it just says it's not as bad as it could've been. Which is true, but it's still pretty bad.

Here's the numbers on COVID-19 deaths in the US:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
How is it bad? In fact, in subsequent articles, he is criticizing the government for draconian measures.

Others have illustrated how masks and lockdowns don't do anything.
 
I prefer the "Red Scare" over the Whore of Babylon stuff at least.

But it's such a walk to connect those dots. One early activist/founder of BLM supported Marxism and suddenly:

Half the country, half the military, most of Hollywood, most people from urban areas, most professional athletes are all Marxists affiliates because they support Biden.

There are probably Scientologists who support BLM too but that doesn't make it a Scientology organization (even if one of the founders was).

Biden is as centrist as ever and in fact *doesn't support reducing police funding* which was one of the primary BLM goals to reduce police militarization.

So this Biden support = Marxism is the biggest stretch/right wing freakout since OANN had a segment on how not revealing a penguins's gender at a zoo during naming was a way to indoctrinate children to a leftist agenda (John Oliver had the clip of this).
The same could be applied to trade unions who advocated for the 40 hour work week and weekend off as a lot were marxists/socialists back in those days. Anyone who works 40 hours or less while having a break and a weekend off is a marxist!
 
What they say doesn't matter. What matters is the negative emotions they try to evoke. I watched the Georgia debate last night and every time that chick opened her mouth she recited "radical leftist". She looked and sounded like a literal NPC robot. Her eyes just glazed over and she repeated that mantra again and again and again. And if Republicans don't want to be seen as cretins who only do what they're manipulated into doing by appealing to brain-stem then they should recognize this and not just go tribal and get triggered over said criticism. Republicans deserve better than this paint-by-numbers name-calling BS.
It's literally that bad. Every GOP candidate sticks an "R" next to their name and calls every single opponent "radical left" or "radical left associate" and their supporters just eat it up without questioning why Joe Biden who has spent decades in Congress and everyone is familiar with is suddenly "radical left."

I would be a bad propagandist because I would be like "guys, this is too over the top. Maybe we should tone it down..." But then you have QAnon literally saying the dems are just a giant satanic (and ritualistic cannibalistic in the case of the "adrenochrome" part of it) pedo ring and people eat that up, too, without even thinking for a second that maybe that's a ridiculous notion.
 
I prefer the "Red Scare" over the Whore of Babylon stuff at least.

But it's such a walk to connect those dots. One early activist/founder of BLM supported Marxism and suddenly:

Half the country, half the military, most of Hollywood, most people from urban areas, most professional athletes are all Marxists affiliates because they support Biden.

There are probably Scientologists who support BLM too but that doesn't make it a Scientology organization (even if one of the founders was).

Biden is as centrist as ever and in fact *doesn't support reducing police funding* which was one of the primary BLM goals to reduce police militarization.

So this Biden support = Marxism is the biggest stretch/right wing freakout since OANN had a segment on how not revealing a penguins's gender at a zoo during naming was a way to indoctrinate children to a leftist agenda (John Oliver had the clip of this).
Biden is not a Marxist, nor is Kamala (although her father is said to be one), but they are walking a very thin line by the promises that they make, which cannot be kept, many of which appeal to those who are gullible enough to believe them.
 
The same could be applied to trade unions who advocated for the 40 hour work week and weekend off as a lot were marxists/socialists back in those days. Anyone who works 40 hours or less while having a break and a weekend off is a marxist!
Civil rights opponents used to say equal rights was a communist idea, too.
 
Biden is not a Marxist, nor is Kamala (although her father is said to be one), but they are walking a very thin line by the promises that they make, which cannot be kept, many of which appeal to those who are gullible enough to believe them.
What promises have they made that can't be kept?
 
Donald Trump almost single-handedly destroyed the religious right Republican Party, when he was elected. Rather than congratulate him, for doing something that they could not accomplish themselves, the Democrats went after him relentlessly, and impeached him. They could have worked on finding a candidate that would appeal to those Republicans that voted for Trump because they were sick of the status quo, and possibly been open to switching parties. Instead, the Democrats did the exact opposite: They continuously insulted, berated and talked down to the citizens who voted for a man that was able to decimate the power structure of the Republican party. If Biden is given a hard time by the Republicans, and the far left, the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves. None of this matters to me very much. It's the markets that are the most important thing, for me, and they have been booming higher than ever. If the markets go south, that's fine as well, and means there will be more opportunities to buy at bargain prices, when people dump their securities.
 

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