2020 US Presidential Election

Just a few more posts and I got Bingo, John.

BTW aren't you a "Christian"? lol. Very Jesus like to check for papers before healthcare and feeding the poor.

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If Bernie Sanders wants to pay for healthcare for every human that can run across the Mexican border then let him and all of you that support him pay for it and let me opt out. Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala need to get their shit straight and stop dumping all of their poor people on us. Why can't they give their own people social services? Also, if they are so poor then why are they having so many babies that they can't support? I have ONE child and my wife and I support him 100%. We cannot solve the problems of the third world by just letting all of them come here.

In reality, every adult illegal immigrant needs to be put on a bus and taken back to their home country. No ifs ands or buts.

Also, this happens:

A man and his pregnant wife come here illegally. The wife gives birth to an American citizen. Because that child is legal, he is eligible for food, health care, child care, and housing welfare. Their marriage is not on the books so the woman gets to file as a single parent with a dependent, or multiple dependents and the husband gets to still live in the same house. The husband can work and get paid under the table, essentially paying zero income taxes while getting social services for his family. At the end of the month, many of these spongers are doing better than my wife and I, that pay taxes, pay out of pocket for pre-school, and pay for all of our food, and housing, and if we have more children, we don't get more welfare, because we don't get any. How is that fair? On top of all of that, the leftists call me a fucking racist for simply opposing illegal immigration when my problem is the money side of it. It's just not fair.
I'll say this, some reform to ur complaints would be perfectly valid. Some aspects of the welfare system are to easy to exploit.

I don't think that's a valid argument against universal healthcare though. Just an argument that illegals shouldn't have access to it.
 
This isn't accurate and is insensitive to many struggling white people.

But it ain't racist.
That is 100% racist. Bernie is obviously one of these anti-white goons. It also shows how completely out of touch with reality that he is. Someone saying shit like that has no business trying to radically change the economy and redistribute wealth.
 
In all fairness to Sanders, there are women that fantasize about being raped. One of the most uncomfortable role plays I've ever done was one where a "friend" of mine wanted to do a phone sex scenario where I raped her. Dead serious.
That is 100% racist. Bernie is obviously one of these anti-white goons. It also shows how completely out of touch with reality that he is. Someone saying shit like that has no business trying to radically change the economy and redistribute wealth.
You can't ignore the fact that Sanders has as I said gone to many poor areas that were predominantly white and got along just fine there. This one statement doesn't change that.
 
Slavery reparations:
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/26/reparations-bernie-sanders/

365,000 Americans gave their lives for the freedom of black slaves. That is their reparations.

John Quincy Adams, absolute abolitionist (my username) wanted to free the slaves decades earlier and pay the slave owners for their slaves like England did. That would have been fair because the government condoned it and it was legal. That would have likely averted the war.

I never owned any slaves and no blacks living in America right now were ever slaves unless they are actually from the middle east or Africa where black slavery still exists.

The Roman Empire had white slaves, can I get reparations from the Vatican? The Pope calls himself Pontifex Maximus like old Roman Emperors.

Give me a f-ing break. Bernie Sanders is a walking pile of human garbage.
 
Slavery reparations:
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/26/reparations-bernie-sanders/

365,000 Americans gave their lives for the freedom of black slaves. That is their reparations.

John Quincy Adams, absolute abolitionist (my username) wanted to free the slaves decades earlier and pay the slave owners for their slaves like England did. That would have been fair because the government condoned it and it was legal. That would have likely averted the war.

I never owned any slaves and no blacks living in America right now were ever slaves unless they are actually from the middle east or Africa where black slavery still exists.

The Roman Empire had white slaves, can I get reparations from the Vatican? The Pope calls himself Pontifex Maximus like old Roman Emperors.

Give me a f-ing break. Bernie Sanders is a walking pile of human garbage.
Bernie Sanders isn't even for reparations tho, he said flat out no to cash payments.
 
In all fairness to Sanders, there are women that fantasize about being raped.
There are people that fantasize about raping children. So why write about it?
One of the most uncomfortable role plays I've ever done was one where a "friend" of mine wanted to do a phone sex scenario where I raped her.
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You can't ignore the fact that Sanders has as I said gone to many poor areas that were predominantly white and got along just fine there. This one statement doesn't change that.
Of course he got along just fine, he's promising them free shit.
 
Bernie Sanders isn't even for reparations tho, he said flat out no to cash payments.
He is for taking tax dollars and using them to benefit demographics of people based on their ancestry. Subsidized housing, subsidized education. That is reparations.
 
I say don't vote. I'm not voting, and I never had. So maybe I don't even need to be in this thread.

Also, by not voting, I don't have any Iraqi, Afghan, Syrian, and now, Iranian blood on my hands.
 
There are people that fantasize about raping children. So why write about it?

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Of course he got along just fine, he's promising them free shit.
Fantasy is fine man, as long as you don't do it in real life, people can use whatever porn they want. If people were getting off to Bernie's writing, I don't see the issue especially because it seems these fantasies aren't uncommon.
He is for taking tax dollars and using them to benefit demographics of people based on their ancestry. Subsidized housing, subsidized education. That is reparations.
Most of Bernie's programs are universal though. He never said only those groups will get the benefits, it's just they're disproportionately more likely too because of the income of the different races.
 
I say don't vote. I'm not voting, and I never had. So maybe I don't even need to be in this thread.

Also, by not voting, I don't have any Iraqi, Afghan, Syrian, and now, Iranian blood on my hands.
If you wanna stay feel free, ur political perspectives are as valid as anyone who votes.
That said, I'm not sure not voting absolves anyone. It's ultimately our taxes that fund these things.
 
Very Jesus like to check for papers before healthcare and feeding the poor.
You don't know what all I do to help the poor in my community so you can take your comment and shove it up your ass.
It's a numbers reality. We cannot afford to feed and take care of every third worlder that can get into America. It just doesn't work out. We can sit around and dream about solving all of the world's problems but the math just doesn't work.

Also, I didn't vote for Trump so you can also shove your bingo card up your ass.

I am all for taking care of the sick and poor as much as possible.
 
Just a few more posts and I got Bingo, John.

BTW aren't you a "Christian"? lol. Very Jesus like to check for papers before healthcare and feeding the poor.

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This opinion is oversimplified. We cannot immigrate the world out of poverty. There are global ramifications for a nation's fiscal situation. This type of oversimplification would be no different than for me to say to you, how many strangers have you opened your home to to feed, house, clothe, provide healthcare?
 
I'm running for dictator of the United States and here is my platform:

-Increase social security for seniors 3 fold.
-Subsidize nursing home salaries so that people wiping the asses of demented old people make 3 times as much.
-Make college students submit a plan to pay back their student loans before they get them.
-Deport all illegal immigrants and make it easier to apply for legal citizenship.
-No offensive wars. Period.
-Pay Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq trillions of dollars to rebuild their countries that we have helped destroy.
-Stop all foreign aid to Israel.
-Stop almost all corporate subsidies.
-Abolish usury (interest).
-Free birth control pills for everyone.
-Adopt the S. Korean abortion laws.
-Stop all predatory business practices like how Apple does when it comes to fixing their phones.
-Pay universities and biotech firms billions to develop cures for diseases.
-Streamline the FDA and make it 100% transparent.
-Outlaw pornography as a business.
-Arrest every pornography website admin that has allowed their material to be distributed to minors without checking their ID and charge them with every count of distributing pornography to a minor.
-Legalize cannabis in all forms and have no limitations on what anyone wants to do with it.
-Release everyone from jail/prison that is there for cannabis.
-Release everyone from prison that did not commit a violent crime or victimize other individuals.
-Outlaw Pentacostalism, and all other charismatic forms of Christianity because they are dangerous.
-Force the Catholic Church to hand over all pedophile priests or be evicted from the country.
-Subsidize the arts, especially local music venues because corporate music is trash. Entartete Kunst!
-Life in prison for anyone that uses a gun in a crime victimizing other people.
-Prisons become labor camps.
-Deadbeat dads forced to work in labor camps.
-Abolish the death penalty.
-Increase nuclear energy.
-Outlaw secret societies in which their members swear oaths to protect each other from crimes and outlaw them from holding any government office.
-Outlaw several food additives like hydrogenated cottonseed oil and subsidize and reform the agriculture industry to give more quality of life to animals.
 
I'm running for dictator of the United States and here is my platform:

-Increase social security for seniors 3 fold.
-Subsidize nursing home salaries so that people wiping the asses of demented old people make 3 times as much.
-Make college students submit a plan to pay back their student loans before they get them.
-Deport all illegal immigrants and make it easier to apply for legal citizenship.
-No offensive wars. Period.
-Pay Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq trillions of dollars to rebuild their countries that we have helped destroy.
-Stop all foreign aid to Israel.
-Stop almost all corporate subsidies.
-Abolish usury (interest).
-Free birth control pills for everyone.
-Adopt the S. Korean abortion laws.
-Stop all predatory business practices like how Apple does when it comes to fixing their phones.
-Pay universities and biotech firms billions to develop cures for diseases.
-Streamline the FDA and make it 100% transparent.
-Outlaw pornography as a business.
-Arrest every pornography website admin that has allowed their material to be distributed to minors without checking their ID and charge them with every count of distributing pornography to a minor.
-Legalize cannabis in all forms and have no limitations on what anyone wants to do with it.
-Release everyone from jail/prison that is there for cannabis.
-Release everyone from prison that did not commit a violent crime or victimize other individuals.
-Outlaw Pentacostalism, and all other charismatic forms of Christianity because they are dangerous.
-Force the Catholic Church to hand over all pedophile priests or be evicted from the country.
-Subsidize the arts, especially local music venues because corporate music is trash. Entartete Kunst!
-Life in prison for anyone that uses a gun in a crime victimizing other people.
-Prisons become labor camps.
-Deadbeat dads forced to work in labor camps.
-Abolish the death penalty.
-Increase nuclear energy.
-Outlaw secret societies in which their members swear oaths to protect each other from crimes and outlaw them from holding any government office.
What I wanna know is why you are anti pornography? Why is it so bad if teens buy porn?
 
What I wanna know is why you are anti pornography?
It's bad for the brain, especially the developing one. Most of the women getting involved are being abused. It is pure trash. If you want to see a naked woman, go find one in real life. Porno takes advantage of very vulnerable aspects of the human mind and it should not be allowed to be a profit generator. It is selfish and fucks up families.
 
It's bad for the brain, especially the developing one. Most of the women getting involved are being abused. It is pure trash. If you want to see a naked woman, go find one in real life. Porno takes advantage of very vulnerable aspects of the human mind and it should not be allowed to be a profit generator. It is selfish and fucks up families.
So when you say outlaw it as a business, instagram people can still make it and post it, just not for a profit?
 
'When you're white ... you don't know what it's like to be poor'
If you're going to quote somebody, how about giving the more accurate full quote? Here it is, which gives quite a different connotation:

"When you're white you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto, you don't know what it's like to be poor."

Using ellipses when quoting somebody's words is often used to denigrate somebody. Many politicians use these kinds of methods all the time. I've noticed Republicans use these kinds of methods far more often than Democrats. Lying and gross misrepresentation has become even more vogue for them in the age of Trump.
 
"When you're white you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto, you don't know what it's like to be poor."
LMAO! Are you joking? How is that any different? Nothing about my comment was a misrepresentation at all.
 
That is 100% racist. Bernie is obviously one of these anti-white goons. It also shows how completely out of touch with reality that he is. Someone saying shit like that has no business trying to radically change the economy and redistribute wealth.
No.

Don't be Orwellian like the left and try to redefine words.

rac·ist
/ˈrāsəst/
noun
noun: racist; plural noun: racists
  1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
Sorry bruh, but that doesn't meet either criteria.
 
prejudice against people of other races
Downplaying the plight of poor white people by claiming that they don't exist seems pretty prejudiced to me. When you take his platform which includes slavery reparations combined with his comments there are implications behind that that are very racist.
 
I'm running for dictator of the United States and here is my platform:

-Increase social security for seniors 3 fold.
-Subsidize nursing home salaries so that people wiping the asses of demented old people make 3 times as much.
-Make college students submit a plan to pay back their student loans before they get them.
-Deport all illegal immigrants and make it easier to apply for legal citizenship.
-No offensive wars. Period.
-Pay Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq trillions of dollars to rebuild their countries that we have helped destroy.
-Stop all foreign aid to Israel.
-Stop almost all corporate subsidies.
-Abolish usury (interest).
-Free birth control pills for everyone.
-Adopt the S. Korean abortion laws.
-Stop all predatory business practices like how Apple does when it comes to fixing their phones.
-Pay universities and biotech firms billions to develop cures for diseases.
-Streamline the FDA and make it 100% transparent.
-Outlaw pornography as a business.
-Arrest every pornography website admin that has allowed their material to be distributed to minors without checking their ID and charge them with every count of distributing pornography to a minor.
-Legalize cannabis in all forms and have no limitations on what anyone wants to do with it.
-Release everyone from jail/prison that is there for cannabis.
-Release everyone from prison that did not commit a violent crime or victimize other individuals.
-Outlaw Pentacostalism, and all other charismatic forms of Christianity because they are dangerous.
-Force the Catholic Church to hand over all pedophile priests or be evicted from the country.
-Subsidize the arts, especially local music venues because corporate music is trash. Entartete Kunst!
-Life in prison for anyone that uses a gun in a crime victimizing other people.
-Prisons become labor camps.
-Deadbeat dads forced to work in labor camps.
-Abolish the death penalty.
-Increase nuclear energy.
-Outlaw secret societies in which their members swear oaths to protect each other from crimes and outlaw them from holding any government office.
-Outlaw several food additives like hydrogenated cottonseed oil and subsidize and reform the agriculture industry to give more quality of life to animals.
Forgetting some of the other issues atm, how do you enforce your anti porn laws without increasing government surveillance on our online information? Because whether or not porn is outlawed in the US, it certain isn't in Europe.
 
I would have to disagree on the premise. The difference is that conservatives tend to believe that charity should not be coerced through an inefficient government but through private charity. Conservatives also tend to donate more to charity, but at the same time tend to reside in lower taxed areas. Liberals tend to favor a coercive form of charity through government force, while pushing for higher taxes and ironically taking for themselves as many deductions as possible. I think both can work in different circumstances. America is much too large to live under one set of rules for 330 million people (which is why we care so much who is president and who is on the supreme court...our founders would not have wanted us to care so much for they should not be able to affect our daily lives to the extent that they do). Denmark on the other hand are more likely to have much more homogeneous beliefs (given their smaller size) that make more government involvement practical and palatable.
Donations to churches and even tithing counts as charity in these cases. That's why Utah is the top of those lists (Mormons are required to tithe a large amount of their pre tax income to their church to get temple recommends). I think many liberals trust the government to be more transparent than many religious groups (even though there are trust issues with government, too) with what they do with the money.

But i do understand why a conservative would not trust the government to be efficient with this money. At the same time, the government has much better infrastructure and resources (and voter accountability in theory) than private charity, religious groups.

I think an ideal system would contain measures to follow up on government money to see metrics of success (ie, is this homeless program making an impact? What are the numbers?). Because when government programs start, there is often no follow up that results in change to make them more efficient and results based. That is a conservative concern I agree with.

But i really can't see charity as making the same kind of dent in social problems, unfortunately.
 
So when you say outlaw it as a business, instagram people can still make it and post it, just not for a profit?
If it is posted on a forum and the admins aren't regulating children's access to it or making a demonstrable effort to moderate it then they should be charged with distribution of pornography to minors. It is already a crime to distribute pornography to minors and it needs to be enforced.

Children do not need to be having free access to videos of people sodomizing each other, end of story. Society in general will live just fine without these types of things as well. It needs to be banned.
 
If it is posted on a forum and the admins aren't regulating children's access to it or making a demonstrable effort to moderate it then they should be charged with distribution of pornography to minors. It is already a crime to distribute pornography to minors and it needs to be enforced.

Children do not need to be having free access to videos of people sodomizing each other, end of story. Society in general will live just fine without these types of things as well. It needs to be banned.
Was sodomizing just an example or is that particularly bad in your view?
 
Block IP's like they do in other countries.
But couldn't that system then be used to block sites for other political reasons too? I.e. make government censorship easier under the guess of protecting children from porn?
 
Donations to churches and even tithing counts as charity in these cases. That's why Utah is the top of those lists (Mormons are required to tithe a large amount of their pre tax income to their church to get temple recommends). I think many liberals trust the government to be more transparent than many religious groups (even though there are trust issues with government, too) with what they do with the money.

But i do understand why a conservative would not trust the government to be efficient with this money. At the same time, the government has much better infrastructure and resources (and voter accountability in theory) than private charity, religious groups.

I think an ideal system would contain measures to follow up on government money to see metrics of success (ie, is this homeless program making an impact? What are the numbers?). Because when government programs start, there is often no follow up that results in change to make them more efficient and results based. That is a conservative concern I agree with.

But i really can't see charity as making the same kind of dent in social problems, unfortunately.
A Few Points:

1) There are four ways to spend money. It's universally accepted that the least efficient is to spend someone else's money on someone else. (This is government).

2) There is little accountability in government (look at the length of terms in congress, most Americans agree congress has collectively failed the American people, their approval ratings are basement level) Meanwhile we are physically coerced into continuing to pay into a wasteful system and have no alternative to compete with our tax dollars. We are also commonly given the option to vote for tweedle-dee or tweedle-dumb and are told we have a "choice"

3) There was a time when church's and private charity reigned supreme. It is the big government protagonist's dream to convince us that we need government to take care of us and that charity can't make a dent in problems. I'd contend when left to our own devices, we could do quite well on our own with a more limited form of assistance at more local levels. (this would also occur at lower tax rates)
 

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