Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19) and Tinnitus

[Ed209]

I had this exchange with a clinical lead consultant yesterday:

Also, my wife is still having some breathing difficulties and remains unwell. Her problems seem to be sinus related, though, and there are signs of some improvement so I think she is likely over the worst of it now, whatever it is. My daughters' temperature is now occasionally becoming a mild fever, but nothing exceptional. I haven't had any symptoms of anything yet.

 

[ajc]

I had this exchange with a clinical lead consultant yesterday:

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Also, my wife is still having some breathing difficulties and remains unwell. Her problems seem to be sinus related, though, and there are signs of some improvement so I think she is likely over the worst of it now, whatever it is. My daughters' temperature is now occasionally becoming a mild fever, but nothing exceptional. I haven't had any symptoms of anything yet.

Why is a clinical lead consultant talking with you on Whatsapp? Are you friends?

 

[Ed209]

Why is a clinical lead consultant talking with you on Whatsapp? Are you friends?

He is a student of mine and we're also good friends. I teach many health professionals.

My daughter now has a cough and conjunctivitis, so I took her to get some antibiotic eye drops and while I was there I noticed signs saying that everyone must use the hand sanitising gel. So, I watched to see who would actually follow the orders and I can honestly say that there was only one other person besides myself and my daughter who used it.

My wife had an internal message from the school earlier via her iPad saying that other people from within my wife's class have also become ill so they are bringing in some kind of protocol. I think it's a bit late to be doing that now. It was only this morning and a few days back that they were asking her to come back due to the workload! And people wonder why this spreads so fast. Why didn't the government create some sort of protocol for all schools to follow in the event of people becoming ill? Or why hasn't the headteacher used some common sense and told those who are presenting with coronavirus symptoms to stay away? It defies belief that those in positions of power seem to have no clue. They were essentially pestering my wife to go back in rather than telling her to stay away.

I guess the pressure of receiving those private pounds means that the head has lost sense of what's important and rather than implementing a plan of action she has turned a blind eye to it.

 

[Ed209]

It seems there could be a strong link to Italy here as it has come to my attention that they sent an entire year on a skiing trip there recently. It wasn't just the member of staff that went. Apparently, the staff member was coughing when she got back home and my wife was stuck with her for an entire parents' evening.

How incompetent can they be?

 

[ASilverLight]

I think many cases in Europe can be traced back to Italy one way or another, including those with no seemingly direct link (think asymptomatic people & via via unknowing links).

Either way, they're starting to be pretty drastic in parts of my country too now, where they have the most confirmed cases. Despite my own frequent colds and respiratory illnesses I'm not too worried personally as I'm young. It's certain family members I'm more worried about, as they're far more vulnerable than me.

What honestly makes me laugh is people suddenly caring about hygiene and going wild with washing hands and hand sanitizer etc. Washing hands should be common practice whether a virus is going around or not...

 

[Tybs]

Either way, they're starting to be pretty drastic in parts of my country too now, where they have the most confirmed cases

If we call "don't shake hands" drastic...

Frankly, I think that our government highly underestimates the impact that a disease can have. Not that corona itself worries me, but after seeing how our politicians mess up time and time again due to not understanding the concepts of their fields of responsibility (and blindly ignoring the advices from people who are actually active in the working field), I don't expect that they will understand the decisions they're making in this case.

We'll see how it works out. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[ASilverLight]

If we call "don't shake hands" drastic...

Frankly, I think that our government highly underestimates the impact that a disease can have. Not that corona itself worries me, but after seeing how our politicians mess up time and time again due to not understanding the concepts of their fields of responsibility (and blindly ignoring the advices from people who are actually active in the working field), I don't expect that they will understand the decisions they're making in this case.

We'll see how it works out. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

Not actually talking about that, and I didn't mean drastic in a negative sense! Mostly meant that they're really going in hard with precaution - several events (football, concerts, other big gatherings etc) being cancelled for now. Which considering the scale of the infection so far here is a big move, but a very reasonable one.

Talking about the South here btw. Several schools are closed because of the given advice to stay home with a cold etc.

Again, nothing I'm complaining about, I'm glad they're taking action - but they're big either way.

 

[Lane]

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[Bill Bauer]

At my place of work, over the past month we have been having a record number of meetings, and we have even more meetings planned over the next month.

 

[Jazzer]

There's a chance my wife and daughter may have it. My wife has been ill since Thursday and on Saturday it became so bad that she was struggling to breathe and had to seek medical attention for both herself and our baby's health.

The heart trace for our baby over 10 minutes wasn't quite right so they immediately scheduled her for a 60-minute trace. That was also abnormal. After a consultant reviewed it they said it appeared to be more of a background noise problem possibly from my wife coughing, etc. After this they let her go.

Today our daughter has a fever and our local paper has reported the first confirmed case of covid 19 in our city. My wife was in the same hospital as the person who was found to have it, and it more than likely would have been on the same day.

We won't know if it is or not, but my wife wasn't tested for it. She is a school teacher which is a job that has possibly the greatest potential for infection, especially as it's a very affluent private school and the families who attend are always going abroad for both business and pleasure. My wife was recently at a parents evening as well, and this included a member of staff who had recently gone skiing in Italy.

I have no concern whatsoever about me or my daughter, but there is no data about how it affects unborn children. My wife seems to be over the worst of it now, but it quite literally could be any bug or virus that's out there.

I still have no idea why people are emptying supermarket shelves and running around like headless chickens. People have lost their minds.

Very Best Wishes
to you and your family Ed
Dave x

 

[Daniel Lion]

@Ed209
Praying for a speedy recovery for your loved ones.
Daniel

 

[Ed209]

@Ed209
Praying for a speedy recovery for your loved ones.
Daniel

My wife is still coughing her guts up and so is my daughter now. There's been a story in our local newspaper today saying that they believe it's widespread in our city and the official cases don't reflect the current reality on the ground.

At this point I'm starting to believe that my wife and daughter more than likely have Covid-19.

 

[OnceUponaTime]

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At this point I'm starting to believe that my wife and daughter more than likely have Covid-19.

Oh, no. I hope and pray they feel better soon, Ed.
Hope you can dodge it.

 

[Gabriel]

My wife is still coughing her guts up and so is my daughter now. There's been a story in our local newspaper today saying that they believe it's widespread in our city and the official cases don't reflect the current reality on the ground.

At this point I'm starting to believe that my wife and daughter more than likely have Covid-19.

How old is your daughter ?
I have heard many times that children don't get sick from coronavirus, they are asymptomatic.
Also, coughing is just a symptom, could be simply bronchitis, or flu, I wouldn't be too worry. Don't they have fever? Cramps? Trouble to breathe?
And even if they are sick, they are more likely to get cured naturally from it

 

[Candy]

Can you get them tested? Thinking of you xx

 

[Ed209]

How old is your daughter ?
I have heard many times that children don't get sick from coronavirus, they are asymptomatic.
Also, coughing is just a symptom, could be simply bronchitis, or flu, I wouldn't be too worry. Don't they have fever? Cramps? Trouble to breathe?
And even if they are sick, they are more likely to get cured naturally from it

I'm not particularly worried, Gabriel. My main concerns are my unborn child (as there is no data on the effects it has in pregnancy) and my elderly parents. My daughter does not appear ill. She is running around and playing as usual but she does have a cough now.

I've read a lot about this and it appears children are the most resilient to it.

 

[Ed209]

Can you get them tested? Thinking of you xx

There is a testing hub that they have set up because of the outbreak in our city. To get tested, though, you have to get an appointment, and my wife is too ill to leave the house. She has also been told to self-isolate.

 

[Ecip]

I'm not worried about my tinnitus and COVID-19.

My wife just started having flu like symptoms this morning, and her doctor wanted her to come in to take the Coronavirus test because she's an at risk individual (MS, taking immunosuppressants).

We are asked to stay isolated until the test results come in.

It's probably just a cold or a flu though, but we'll see...
I myself don't really have any symptoms except this weird thing with my... chest... I may yet go see my doctor tomorrow also, but will wait for the test results to come back.

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[Kriszti]

There is a testing hub that they have set up because of the outbreak in our city. To get tested, though, you have to get an appointment, and my wife is too ill to leave the house. She has also been told to self-isolate.

Are there so many cases in your city that they can't go to your house? In my country, where there are still just a dozen of cases, if someone has a valid suspicion of having contracted the virus, we need to call the GP and if the doctor think it's reasonable, ambulance (in hazmat suits looking coveralls) takes them to the appointed central hospital to get "treated" and quarantined. I think this won't be manageable as the number of cases is likely to increase.

This week, schools got closed and any event with more than 100 people got banned. Also travel ban from certain countries is issued.

I really hope that your wife and daughter have a speedy recovery and will feel better soon.

 

[FGG]

There is a testing hub that they have set up because of the outbreak in our city. To get tested, though, you have to get an appointment, and my wife is too ill to leave the house. She has also been told to self-isolate.

I read a thread where an MD recommended one of these for sick, home quarantines:

https://www.amazon.com/MIBEST-Silver-Color-Finger-Oximeter/dp/B07BNZ2Z41/

If the ox sat starts to drop, then it's time to think about going to the hospital for sure.

 

[Ed209]

Are there so many cases in your city that they can't go to your house? In my country, where there are still just a dozen of cases, if someone has a valid suspicion of having contracted the virus, we need to call the GP and if the doctor think it's reasonable, ambulance (in hazmat suits looking coveralls) takes them to the appointed central hospital to get "treated" and quarantined. I think this won't be manageable as the number of cases is likely to increase.

This week, schools got closed and any event with more than 100 people got banned. Also travel ban from certain countries is issued.

I really hope that your wife and daughter have a speedy recovery and will feel better soon.

There's no chance of that happening.

 

[Bill Bauer]

 

[TheDanishGirl]

It is getting very real in my country! All schools, daycares, libraries etc. are closing down the next two weeks. cafe's/restaurants and bars are urged to also close down (and all of them will probably follow these recommendations)

My workplace is closed the next two weeks also, I am getting anxious at the thought of not having my daily dose of work to distract me.

 

[Ruse]

Most countries have around 2-3 hospital beds per 1000 people.

There are even less 'free' hospital beds.

The world is categorically not equipped to deal with anything on this scale.

 

[Kriszti]

There's no chance of that happening.

Ed, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be insensitive, if it came across as that, I apologize.

@Bill Bauer
The linked article states that the original slide didn't give a time frame, so this estimation may be over exaggerated for the next 2 months. Also it's not the AHA's opinion, but the scientist's own.

 

[Ed209]

Ed, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be insensitive, if it came across as that, I apologize.

Not at all. I didn't interpret anything bad in what you said, I was just saying there's no chance of someone coming out to our house to test for it.

I suppose whether it is or not is irrelevant as long as it isn't passed on (in case it is).

 

[DebInAustralia]

150 confirmed cases and climbing in Australia

First confirmed case in my town of Geelong today.

I see WHO have finally declared this as a pandemic.

 

[Bill Bauer]

@Bill Bauer
The linked article states that the original slide didn't give a time frame

If you are talking about the slide from the American Hospital Association, then it Does say "2 months", see the top-right corner.

Also it's not the AHA's opinion, but the scientist's own.

It also seems to be the best case scenario, as it uses 30-40%, instead of the usual 30-70% (which of course might be the figure for a longer time horizon).

 

[Jack Straw]

Anyone else think Trump has the virus after the speech? Seemed like he had trouble breathing and wanted to cough...

 

[AVIYT]

It is getting very real in my country! All schools, daycares, libraries etc. are closing down the next two weeks. cafe's/restaurants and bars are urged to also close down (and all of them will probably follow these recommendations)

My workplace is closed the next two weeks also, I am getting anxious at the thought of not having my daily dose of work to distract me.

Yes, Denmark is the 2nd country to do full lockdown. Unfortunately I feel even though Poland's cases are minimal (31 currently) there are talks of quarantine for entire cities (the major ones being Warsaw, Krakow, Wrocław). As of today there are 2 week quarantines in place for all schools, daycares, theatres, cinemas and the larger stores have been cleared out. Poland might just go lockdown mode before we hit 100 cases.