Feeling Great After 15 Clinical Low-Level Laser Treatments (LLLT)!

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just1morething said:
LumoMed Testimonials

Christa (50)

For years I had various complaints: a shrill pound in the left ear, as well as pain in the knee and the hip joint due to a misalignment after a car accident. I had to constantly take painkillers and also a homeopathic injection which helped me only a short time.

Already after the 3 laser treatment, the whistling sound has become quieter and less frequent. After further sessions, the noise disappeared completely.


Alfred (75)

I came for treatment of my bilateral tinnitus. It was gone after the fifth treatment.


Asta (66)

I came with my daughter to treat her tinnitus. After a week of therapy, my daughter noticed positive changes.


M. Ribic (60)

In October 2005 I suffered sudden hearing loss and pressure in my left ear. I could hear a buzzing noise. I felt dizzy. In the Emergency Room the doctors told me I did not have any hearing loss, but that my ear canal needed to be cleaned. I went to an ENT who treated me with infusions for 10 days – without success. After a nuclear spin tomography and middle ear surgery, my condition was no better. On the contrary, I also got an infection. As a last resort, my ENT suggested I wear hearing aids. In my despair I began looking on the internet and found the Lumomed website. I contacted the doctor and he was very helpful. I began to protect my ears against noise. Then I decided to go for the treatment. I noticed improvement quickly. The pressure and the noise in my left ear began to disappear, as well as the dizziness. My overall hearing improved significantly. I even had to turn the radio and the TV down!


G. Fiedler (46)

My complaint started in May. First my ear felt blocked, then pressure and hearing loss. After 4 weeks I began to hear a noise, sometimes loud, sometimes quiet. Four weeks later I had the first symptoms again, but worse with dizziness, nausea and vomiting. The ENT doctor did not help. After 2 weeks of laser therapy the pressure and noises went away. I could hear better, and the dizziness disappeared. At home after two weeks the dizziness came back just as bad. After 12 weeks they came only once a month. 6 months after the laser therapy I had the last attack.


Daniel

Daniel had early onset hearing loss in both ears. After only a few treatments we noticed an improvement.


Maria 72

For a year I had painful tinnitus. It went away after the laser therapy. Now it only comes back if I get very stressed.


Mrs. K.

For years, I had an increasing pressure on my ears with dizziness, headaches, and deafness. Day and night there was a humming, whistling, and hissing like a swarm of wasps in both ears.

After 20 treatments I am free from headaches and dizziness. I can hear again and the annoying sounds are almost gone.


Anna H.

Since I was 4 years old I had vertigo with nausea, and Menieres.
For 35 years I suffered, and it was getting worse. I suddenly lost my hearing three times. I had no quality of life.

After the first series, I went 7 months without any episodes, and I could hear better. I am now returning for a second series.
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I need to talk to someone that had the LumoMed treatment. If he treated about 100 people there should be someone that would discuss their results, good or bad.
 
#64
scotty03874 said:
I'm not sure if I'm a success story just yet, but after my 15 treatments of Low-Level Laser Treatment (LLLT) my tinnitus has gone from a 8 to like a 3 (on a scale of 1 to 10). My tinnitus is totally manageable now! This was the first week in 5 months that I haven't visited this depressing website lol. Probably because I'm not in panic mode anymore.

I plan on going back in another three months for another 15 sessions. Per the doctors advice.

My tinnitus is still there but it's more like a hiss, as it was a loud solid tone before. Hopefully the healing continues.

Scott
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Great! Very nice! You could also consider a home care system... Konftec or the laser of Wilden... With such a system you can treat your T daily... I think it is also more cost effective...
 
#65
just1morething said:
I called them and they said $250 per session. That covers both ears. 15 treatments would cost $3750. I scheduled a telephone consult in a couple days.

Sorry I missed @scotty03874's post until after I called.
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Ridiculous!! They make use of your situation... Just buy your own system... see other threads about LLLT.

I started a thread about long term use of home care systems like LumoMed, Konftec etc...
 
#66
Jan64 said:
Ridiculous!! They make use of your situation... Just buy your own system... see other threads about LLLT.

I started a thread about long term use of home care systems like LumoMed, Konftec etc...
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Is the home version strong enough to do any good? What is the pricing of the home units and more importantly do they reduce your tinnitus? Are the Wilden lasers way overpriced compared to the Konftec?
 
#67
just1morething said:
Is the home version strong enough to do any good? What is the pricing of the home units and more importantly do they reduce your tinnitus?
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The home care systems are indeed weaker. So you have to treat your ears longer than in a treatment center.

After spikes I treat my ears twice a day: in the morning 45 minutes, and also the same time in the evening... Just in bed, relaxed... I bought a new one for about $500,- I will not advocate a brand but I am quite happy with a Konftec... It has some wire issues, you have to strengthen the link between the laser probe and the wire...

A conclusion from another thread is that LLLT only works in the acute stages... It works for me in case of a spike...
 
#68
Jan64 said:
A conclusion from another thread is that LLLT only works in the acute stages... It works for me in case of a spike...
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I have chronic tinnitus so then it wouldn't help? It looks like you have chronic tinnitus as well. I'm a bit skeptical of LLLT at this point.

I believe the Wilden home lasers sell for about $2500. Looks like they have 2 models, Lux-Spa & Luci-Basic. I do not know their output compared to the professional model.

Some people will sell anything, whether it works or not, for the almighty buck.
 
#69
just1morething said:
I have chronic tinnitus so then it wouldn't help? It looks like you have chronic tinnitus as well. I'm a bit skeptical of LLLT at this point.
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It is not completely conclusive (I work as a researcher...). But when you look at all the research combined with all that is mentioned on Tinnitus Talk you could conclude LLLT is not effective in the chronic stage... I also have chronic tinnitus, but every now and then there is another damage done by a loud evening out, and last week I went with ear protection to a discotheque (club)... And when I experience an aggravation I use my Konftec intensely...
just1morething said:
I believe the Wilden home lasers sell for about $2500. Looks like they have 2 models, Lux-Spa & Luci-Basic. I do not know their output compared to the professional model.
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I once also had a device from Wilden... It was an early model with only 50 mW... After the device broke down I searched for something else and found the Konftec. I ordered it with two probes (660 and 808 nm). I know the wire is broken of the 808 and could be repaired. But I now use only the 660 nm... You can buy 5 Konftecs for 1 device from Wilden... My decision was not difficult... I also ordered one for my son. He uses it after going out...
just1morething said:
Some people will sell anything whether it works or not for the almighty buck.
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You are from the United States so you know how it works... I admit the Konftec site does not look very professional... Fancy colours... But they just deliver good products...
 
#70
Jan64 said:
You can buy 5 Konftecs for 1 device from Wilden
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Is the Konftec the same laser as the LumoMed?

You wouldn't think they would be the same otherwise there is a tremendous markup on the LumoMed brand..

Someone told me the LED red lasers won't do anything for tinnitus.
Maybe he meant the type on some flashlights? My cat chases after that kind.

I know very little about the different types of lasers.
 
#75
#76
lcj said:
Not to discourage anyone from attending the clinic in Sarasota as I don't think this story has any bearing on the quality or efficacy of the laser treatments, but someone sent me this article about an incident that took place at this clinic a few years ago that I thought I'd share.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-doctor-discipline-kantzler-20171117-story.html
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It has no bearing on laser treatments... but a quick read. Silverstein is a pioneer, research him lcj... hell blow your mind. His credentials are amazing as well as his inventions... check him out.
 
#78
There are flaws in the research conducted by Goodman et al.

5. Conclusions
No statistically significant effect of LLLT on auditory function was found, as assessed by pure-tone audiometry, speech understanding, and TEOAEs. Additionally, no individual subjects showed any clinically significant change. It remains possible that other methods of LLLT could have an effect on hearing. Further research elucidating the anatomic and physiologic bases for therapeutic effects of LLLT on hearing are needed before further clinical testing is warranted.

It could also be that the lasers were too weak...

The following is stated: Both diodes produced energy levels of 7.5 mW (class IIIb).

A normal power is between 50 and 150 mW

About the treatment time:
Step 5 —
The laser was centered on the right external auditory meatus, with the probe held at a distance of approximately 2 inches from the surface of the pinna. The probe was rotated from vertical to horizontal and back continuously for 60 seconds.

Only one minute....

A normal treating time is 15 - 45 minutes...

These are two reasons that not much could have been expected.
 
#79
I called LumoMed in Florida again asking about more referrals on their ear laser therapy. So far they only gave out one phone number. They claim they have tried contacting several people by email with no response so far (except for the one).

I also asked about using only the Luci basic and they said generally people have the more powerful laser therapy done at their clinic and then use the home laser for maintenance.
 
#81
Great news! I am glad it worked for you! It was fun to talk with you @scotty03874!

Well I just received home treatment laser from Dr. Wilden from Germany. I was surprised a bit, I expected to see it made in Germany, but it says made in China.
 
#82
vlad2019 said:
Great news! I am glad it worked for you! It was fun to talk with you @scotty03874!

Well I just received home treatment laser from Dr. Wilden from Germany. I was surprised a bit, I expected to see it made in Germany, but it says made in China.
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If you don't mind me asking, how much is Dr. Wilden charging for his laser?
 
#84
vlad2019 said:
2700 i think
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I thought they told me $3500 for the Luci Basic. Also most people are treated initially at their clinic with the LumoMed laser. I also talked to @scotty03874 and he seemed pleased with the results. They did not give me any other referrals. I wanted to talk to someone with chronic tinnitus.

If I got decent results (tinnitus reduction) from their LumoMed laser, I would be more than happy to talk to others about my experience.
 
#88
vlad2019 said:
I am using Dr Wilden's laser and my TSSS sound increased... so it got worse.. any advice please?
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