Hearing Loss and Severe Tinnitus — From Loving Life to Suicidal in 2 Months

I have conceded there is no cure, too, but I am still not at peace, still mad, still crazy, crazier perhaps, hating myself more every day. I really do not believe I can be back to my good self. It's soul crushing beyond worst imagination.
C'mon man, this self-loathing and negative reinforcement is doing you no good. Hyperacusis can improve drastically and moderate tinnitus can be managed, everyone is telling you positive things but it sounds like you disregard it all to go and throw yourself in a pit of misery and suffering.

Go read the success stories and get a grip. Things can improve with tinnitus & hyperacusis but it sounds like your mind and thought process should be a priority.
 
Might be language/cultural difference, English in not my first language. But I should know better. No, I never bullied anyone at school, ever. Had been subject to bulling but not all that much, I dealt/survived ok with it.

I know it's bad what I am doing, I want to stop, just keep slipping. And I am not recognizing myself. I wasn't like this. But there is no excuse for what I have done. I admitted and apologized. Maybe it's the breaking point to straighten me out. Thank you for an honest response. I guess bottom line is I need serious help and quick.
I believe that you are fully engulfed by grief and are grieving the loss of your happy life that has been taken away. One stage of grief is anger and it can make you into nasty person to those around you that you love most. You may already recognize this, but being nasty to those who care most about you is a lose-lose situation and is very harmful to their emotions. They want to help you and they need you, but being nasty to them can have long term ramifications and sour even the strongest bonds.

Acceptance is also a stage of grief and that's where I'm permanently residing. You have a great chance to grow beyond your current symptoms and fully habituate. Please be aware of how your current, temporary state can have long term deleterious impact to those around you. These are the people you need to help you long term. Don't permanently ruin your relationships over your current stage of grief.
 
Thank you everyone. I will work on being a more positive and kinder person that I used to be.
 
What kind of boat do you have man? I have a 180 Baycraft and was about to buy a 24ft Haynie before this happened. My passion and what I pretty much live for is saltwater fishing, but alike you, am very doubtful I will ever be able to get on the water again.
Nice boats! I have a Rib Craft 7.8 Pro for fishing. I have thought about the possibility of getting something with an enclosed cabin to be able to continue sea fishing. And I do still enjoy course/lake fishing but it's just hard to imagine enjoying it at present.
 
C'mon man, this self-loathing and negative reinforcement is doing you no good. Hyperacusis can improve drastically and moderate tinnitus can be managed, everyone is telling you positive things but it sounds like you disregard it all to go and throw yourself in a pit of misery.

Go read the success stories and get a grip. Things can improve with tinnitus & hyperacusis but it sounds like your mind and thought process should be a priority.
This is too harsh and critical even if the intentions are good. Understanding, empathy and encouragement are much more helpful.
 
Yet another tinnitus case among people I know - that I did not know they had it before.

Tonight we went to one of our favorite restaurants we've not been to in 6 months. We've been going there for more than 15 years. Met a waiter there, an older gentleman (65) who has been there all these years. We knew he had various health issues (back and seriously injured leg) through all these years. I asked for a table far away due to "my new hearing issues".

He said he has tinnitus, too! And I could instantly tell it was a bad one by his reaction. He says he has had it for 7 years. Likely due to noise exposure in discos, concerts and such through all the years. Well, for these 15 years he has worked in this fairly loud restaurant, too. He says he hears it always, it does not really go away. Except when he is engaged in what he loves, which is martial arts, that he has been practicing for 35 years. Only then he says he completely stops noticing it. But like at work, in that busy restaurant, he says he remains constantly aware. He could not quite tell me if he has hyperacusis, but he said that at times when the restaurant is louder, it bugs him.

He says he deals with it though strength of his character, he does not let pain or tinnitus dominate him. He dominates. Just keeps going thru the day. Yet another example of a strong man who does not give up. Unlike me :(

As you see, the same pattern. I remember talking to him and commiserating about his leg injury few years ago. I guess I asked because I saw him limping. Wish he told me about his tinnitus... apparently it is only me that brings this up with people.

Also today, we had a gas utility worker come to our house to service the meter. Younger fella, polite (for me unusual, it seems most people these days are jerks). Because of that, I thought, ok, I will ask/warn him about tinnitus. Turns out he was aware of the danger, knew people with it at work, plus his union at work made sure to educate them about dangers of loud noise and provides hearing protection. Good for him.

Btw, I did not get angry much today, relatively. I saw many morons on the road, but contained myself (plus my wife drove). When I see people driving at highway speeds buried in their phones, my blood boils. I won't say what else I think about them.

Since I've been reflecting so much on my "weakness". I endured some pretty nasty physical pain in my life, not chronic one, but still nasty. Just remembered about some painful dental work from long time ago. I had molar pulled without anesthesia. I also, believe it or not, had root canal done in the jaw (yep, jaw) without anesthesia of any kind, either. Yes, really. I was in my mid teens then. Let's say I come from formerly borderline 3rd world country, where this was the norm, at least in my god forsaken neck of woods there. It hurt like fuck. And I dealt with it in stride.

I guess we are cut from different molds, and we can deal with different shit differently. I honestly think the fucking tinnitus and depression is this exact thing I am unable to overcome. Like if you wanted to destroy me and torture me, you would thoroughly study my psyche, and conclude - "yep, that's exactly what's needed to fuck him over for good". I have no idea if that's God's work, Satan's work, or just this idiot's poor luck. Whatever.

Also.a thought: why do I meet only tinnitus heros? Well, you do not get to meet the losers. They are either 6 feet under, or mostly hide away in their homes, so you are not likely to meet them in person. Some of them may visit this forum.

I seem to be that dead man walking. For now, anyway. I am not a hero, obviously.
 
Acceptance goes a long way, but the fear that it could always be worse also helps to be grateful your level isn't suicidal. Things change, a lot, with tinnitus. For all you know in 2 years it'll be a shadow of its former self.

Just be careful with noise.

I wish I had someone walk me through that when I first got it. I wouldn't have gotten so much worse.
 
Yet another tinnitus case among people I know - that I did not know they had it before.

Tonight we went to one of our favorite restaurants we've not been to in 6 months. We've been going there for more than 15 years. Met a waiter there, an older gentleman (65) who has been there all these years. We knew he had various health issues (back and seriously injured leg) through all these years. I asked for a table far away due to "my new hearing issues".

He said he has tinnitus, too! And I could instantly tell it was a bad one by his reaction. He says he has had it for 7 years. Likely due to noise exposure in discos, concerts and such through all the years. Well, for these 15 years he has worked in this fairly loud restaurant, too. He says he hears it always, it does not really go away. Except when he is engaged in what he loves, which is martial arts, that he has been practicing for 35 years. Only then he says he completely stops noticing it. But like at work, in that busy restaurant, he says he remains constantly aware. He could not quite tell me if he has hyperacusis, but he said that at times when the restaurant is louder, it bugs him.

He says he deals with it though strength of his character, he does not let pain or tinnitus dominate him. He dominates. Just keeps going thru the day. Yet another example of a strong man who does not give up. Unlike me :(

As you see, the same pattern. I remember talking to him and commiserating about his leg injury few years ago. I guess I asked because I saw him limping. Wish he told me about his tinnitus... apparently it is only me that brings this up with people.

Also today, we had a gas utility worker come to our house to service the meter. Younger fella, polite (for me unusual, it seems most people these days are jerks). Because of that, I thought, ok, I will ask/warn him about tinnitus. Turns out he was aware of the danger, knew people with it at work, plus his union at work made sure to educate them about dangers of loud noise and provides hearing protection. Good for him.

Btw, I did not get angry much today, relatively. I saw many morons on the road, but contained myself (plus my wife drove). When I see people driving at highway speeds buried in their phones, my blood boils. I won't say what else I think about them.

Since I've been reflecting so much on my "weakness". I endured some pretty nasty physical pain in my life, not chronic one, but still nasty. Just remembered about some painful dental work from long time ago. I had molar pulled without anesthesia. I also, believe it or not, had root canal done in the jaw (yep, jaw) without anesthesia of any kind, either. Yes, really. I was in my mid teens then. Let's say I come from formerly borderline 3rd world country, where this was the norm, at least in my god forsaken neck of woods there. It hurt like fuck. And I dealt with it in stride.

I guess we are cut from different molds, and we can deal with different shit differently. I honestly think the fucking tinnitus and depression is this exact thing I am unable to overcome. Like if you wanted to destroy me and torture me, you would thoroughly study my psyche, and conclude - "yep, that's exactly what's needed to fuck him over for good". I have no idea if that's God's work, Satan's work, or just this idiot's poor luck. Whatever.

Also.a thought: why do I meet only tinnitus heros? Well, you do not get to meet the losers. They are either 6 feet under, or mostly hide away in their homes, so you are not likely to meet them in person. Some of them may visit this forum.

I seem to be that dead man walking. For now, anyway. I am not a hero, obviously.
I am a tinnitus loser. It has come to a point where I am giving up the fight. I feel similar to you, the intrusive tinnitus, the life/social restrictions from the hyperacusis and the depression are just too much to deal with. As you said, each of us are different, different beliefs systems, values, attitudes towards life and pain. Tinnitus is a form of torture and it has taken away all forms of enjoyment and peace. How are we supposed to live like this? And then the psychological pain of missing the old me/life, the frustration of not having access to joy anymore and the traumatic thoughts of how I put myself in this terrible situation. Just a bit too much to deal with for me.
 
Acceptance goes a long way, but the fear that it could always be worse also helps to be grateful your level isn't suicidal. Things change, a lot, with tinnitus. For all you know in 2 years it'll be a shadow of its former self.

Just be careful with noise.

I wish I had someone walk me through that when I first got it. I wouldn't have gotten so much worse.
Did you do things in the early days that made your tinnitus worse?
 
Just some caring advice. I too was too afraid to starting antidepressants or anticonvulsants.

I have searched the most studied and/or top rated natural supplements for mood stabilization and such, and among them are L-Theanine, Lithium Orotate, Albizia, Mucuna, Rhodiola. Some of these have shown great benefit as mood stabilizers and antidepressants like L-Theanine and Albizia. They support vital neurotransmitters and help regulate the limbic system, which is your body's natural fight/flight/freeze mechanism in response to danger or threat. I started L-Theanine yesterday, trying one at a time.

Just some information to maybe help you navigate.
 
Did you do things in the early days that made your tinnitus worse?
  1. Not getting enough stories of improvement by doing nothing even 6 months later (this was when it was a UHF ringing in my ear, just fucking annoying, not scary).
  2. I took steroids inappropriately (though it has saved my hearing going forward).
  3. Masking in the early stages, not nearly enough silence.
  4. HBOT is probably what left me suicidal, caused my auditory seizure and barotrauma = tinnitus you can't imagine.
Benzos ironically were helpful, but should've been kept for 2 weeks and tapered off totally.
 
  1. Not getting enough stories of improvement by doing nothing even 6 months later (this was when it was a UHF ringing in my ear, just fucking annoying, not scary).
  2. I took steroids inappropriately (though it has saved my hearing going forward).
  3. Masking in the early stages, not nearly enough silence.
  4. HBOT is probably what left me suicidal, caused my auditory seizure and barotrauma = tinnitus you can't imagine.
Benzos ironically were helpful, but should've been kept for 2 weeks and tapered off totally.
It took me like two weeks to start using earplugs. I did not have a lot of loud exposure, but I drove my loud car in the meantime. I went to the office, used snowblower (though with hearing protection) and things like that. Heck, I even used the power tool again (with earmuffs) that gave me this shit in the first place!!

I wonder how would it be if I immediately went into silence :/
 
I went immediately into silence, and I'm currently no better off than you are.
Nothing about what I wrote is a guarantee. But it beats doing nothing, even if it's placebo we often feel better "doing something". Silence for a while certainly takes a lot of risk out of the equation.
 
beats doing nothing, even if it's placebo we often feel better "doing something". Silence for a while certainly takes a lot of risk out of the equation.
I completely agree with you, that's why we take all these vitamins and drag ourselves to any/every doctor we can in the beginning even though we know it'll be no help. It helps to feel you're actively doing something to try and benefit your situation.
 
I just wanted to say goodbye. I don't think I can post the reason so that should remain unsaid.

Thank you for those showed me sympathy and support. Wish you all the best.
 
@gameover, I wish you would NOT leave. In a strange way, I've always found your comments to be therapeutic as you were not afraid to vocalize your true thoughts, as negative as they seem. You have been like a comrade in arms, battling this war together. We need each other.
 
@gameover, you sir are not that weak, and you definitely are not that stupid. It would be foolish of you to do something when you're in the position you are in. Not even 6 months into your tinnitus journey and already showing signs of improvement. If I had to hedge my bets on anyone in this forum having their tinnitus fade into nothing, it would be you.

Chin up, chat with us, and expel these emotions you are currently going through. You'll ride it out.
I just wanted to say goodbye.
Am I assuming the worst by this, or do you think he's currently strapped up to the Michigan device somehow and having the time of his life?
 
@gameover, I wish you would NOT leave. In a strange way, I've always found your comments to be therapeutic as you were not afraid to vocalize your true thoughts, as negative as they seem. You have been like a comrade in arms, battling this war together. We need each other.
Thank you @Buddy123. I am touched by this connection I made with you having never even met or spoken with you.
@gameover, you sir are not that weak, and you definitely are not that stupid. It would be foolish of you to do something when you're in the position you are in. Not even 6 months into your tinnitus journey and already showing signs of improvement. If I had to hedge my bets on anyone in this forum having their tinnitus fade into nothing, it would be you.

Chin up, chat with us, and expel these emotions you are currently going through. You'll ride it out.
Thank you @Hardwell, for being concerned about me.

I did not want to post, but I realize me leaving you hanging is hurtful to you. Right now, I am not planning suicide, despite reaching what feels like new lows of depression. I hope to hang in there little longer, but honestly I do not know how much longer I can.
 
I agree with @Hardwell; improvements are slow, barely perceptible and easily unnoticed.

The bigger picture here @gameover is how you will feel and improve in another 6 months or even 12 months from now.

Don't throw that future away, brother. It's there waiting for you.
 
We all hope you will hang in there.

In my darkest moment, dark thoughts swarmed me daily. But I just couldn't pass my misery and pain to my loved ones as they would have to suffer the mental scar for life. I also worried that my children would copy my way in the future should they encounter challenges in life. Also, the horror stories of people with near death experiences from attempted suicide on YouTube also reaffirmed to me that I needed to at least give my body enough time to heal. 6 months to 2 years are usually quoted by others as what the body needs to improve. So I gave myself 3 years. Lol. Well, I got more normal in a year or so, especially when the hyperacusis faded, and definitely better in the 2nd year. In the 3rd year I got so much better I wrote my success story.

So hang in there, not just for yourself but your loved ones.
 
Thank you @Hardwell, for being concerned about me.

I did not want to post, but I realize me leaving you hanging is hurtful to you. Right now, I am not planning suicide, despite reaching what feels like new lows of depression. I hope to hang in there little longer, but honestly I do not know how much longer I can.
I'm glad you came back to update us, I must admit it had been weighing heavy on my mind since you posted that. I am very relieved to see your message.

It's a hard road, nobody's success story starts by them telling you how easy it was. There's nothing I can say that will make you feel any better. But I can offer you my full support if things get dark.
 
We all hope you will hang in there.

In my darkest moment, dark thoughts swarmed me daily. But I just couldn't pass my misery and pain to my loved ones as they would have to suffer the mental scar for life. I also worried that my children would copy my way in the future should they encounter challenges in life. Also, the horror stories of people with near death experiences from attempted suicide on YouTube also reaffirmed to me that I needed to at least give my body enough time to heal. 6 months to 2 years are usually quoted by others as what the body needs to improve. So I gave myself 3 years. Lol. Well, I got more normal in a year or so, especially when the hyperacusis faded, and definitely better in the 2nd year. In the 3rd year I got so much better I wrote my success story.

So hang in there, not just for yourself but your loved ones.
I loved reading this. Did your tinnitus ever change in pitch/intensity/volume over that period?
 
We all hope you will hang in there.

In my darkest moment, dark thoughts swarmed me daily. But I just couldn't pass my misery and pain to my loved ones as they would have to suffer the mental scar for life. I also worried that my children would copy my way in the future should they encounter challenges in life. Also, the horror stories of people with near death experiences from attempted suicide on YouTube also reaffirmed to me that I needed to at least give my body enough time to heal. 6 months to 2 years are usually quoted by others as what the body needs to improve. So I gave myself 3 years. Lol. Well, I got more normal in a year or so, especially when the hyperacusis faded, and definitely better in the 2nd year. In the 3rd year I got so much better I wrote my success story.

So hang in there, not just for yourself but your loved ones.
Thank you @billie48. The guilt about my family is insufferable. I hurt them no matter what, if I remain alive, or if I don't. I really do not know what is worse. I never expected to be in a situation to even ponder such a question. Depression, suicide was something I never ever thought I'd be anywhere close to. It's beyond crushing.
I'm glad you came back to update us, I must admit it had been weighing heavy on my mind since you posted that. I am very relieved to see your message.

It's a hard road, nobody's success story starts by them telling you how easy it was. There's nothing I can say that will make you feel any better. But I can offer you my full support if things get dark.
Thank you for your support @Hardwell.
 
I loved reading this. Did your tinnitus ever change in pitch/intensity/volume over that period?
The hyperacusis faded but the tinnitus stayed about the same. However, for some miraculous reason, the brain stopped being bothered by the ringing. It used to cave into relentless anxiety and panic attacks every time the loud and high pitched scream woke me up, and instantly I would have to reach for my sublingual Ativan pills by the bedside to calm the nerves. I also used Prozac, an SSRI, to help with my depression and to reduce the intensity and frequency of the panic attacks, as Ativan, an addictive benzo, should not be used long termed to avoid addiction. The Prozac took about 2 weeks to work and then I would carry the Ativan in my pocket just in case. At night I had to use sleeping pills to at least get a few hours of sleep. Yes, those silly dark thoughts would sometimes suggest or prefer I would not wake up to the loud tinnitus and repeat the vicious cycle again and again.

Later, I decided to mask my tinnitus with heavy rain sound using an iPod (this was in 2009, before smart phones were available) and earbuds when tinnitus woke me up and I reduced the use of Ativan. It is not recommended to use earbuds extensively, but I didn't want to wake up my dear wife, and I didn't want to depend on Ativan. So I used sounds of heavy rain, cicadas, crushing waves, shower, even squeaky faucet sound just to partially mask my ultra high pitched tinnitus. I slept with stormy sounds a lot of nights. What a "stormy" period of my life! Lol.

Later on, when the brain became hardened to the ringing, and with less tendency to panic, I began to reduce the use of medications. I guess when the brain no longer functions in fight or flight mode of the limbic nerves, and it switches back to the normal parasympathetic nerves to process the tinnitus stimulus, with the pre-frontal cortex taking over the Amygdala, the fear response is much reduced so that it doesn't panic like before by the ringing. It helps in improving our response and the perception of tinnitus too. That is why it is very important to give the body enough time to heal.
Thank you @billie48. The guilt about my family is insufferable. I hurt them no matter what, if I remain alive, or if I don't. I really do not know what is worse. I never expected to be in a situation to even ponder such a question. Depression, suicide was something I never ever thought I'd be anywhere close to. It's beyond crushing.
I totally understand the feelings. At first I reacted with much negative emotions and I gradually realized that tinnitus was beginning to ruin my otherwise lovely and affectionate relationship with my wife and loved ones. So I had the same feelings as you that I was a nuisance to my family. That caused dark thoughts to X myself to save the misery. That was when I wanted to find out from YouTube what could happen to people with near death experience from attempted suicide. Their horror stories let me realize that I better give my body all the time it needed to heal itself. I had to fight for my survival on my feet while alive, for myself and my loved ones, heaven or hell.

In my success story, in the paragraph #14 on family relationships, I described in more detail how I turned around the ruinous relationship with my loved ones into an affectionate one. This gives a ray of light amidst the darkness of tinnitus for me to soldier on. I hope you can re-read my story to see if the approach can help you in some ways. Take good care. God bless your recovery.

From Darkness to Light, How I Recovered from Tinnitus & Hyperacusis
 
To be honest I am not feeling anxious anymore. Yes, I am depressed, because I see how it destroyed my life so far and so I fear the future. I said it many times, already.

But what I am really, really am is very tired now. This relentless sadistic noise filling my head all the time.

Could not sleep last night. I was just reading or just lying in the bed thinking, the noise was there, loud enough, but not absolutely crushing - that's reserved for after waking up. In the end fell asleep after 6 am today. Only to wake up at 10 am and then again with my head filled with this hellish noise. What life is it?

And now I am hearing those fucking motorbikes outside my house. I hope that these people get tinnitus. And bad at that. I really do. There is a good chance they will, given the levels of the noise. There is really no reason for motorcycles to be so loud.
 
To be honest I am not feeling anxious anymore. Yes, I am depressed, because I see how it destroyed my life so far and so I fear the future. I said it many times, already.

But what I am really, really am is very tired now. This relentless sadistic noise filling my head all the time.
Believe it or not, it sounds like you may well be transitioning into the stage of acceptance. Anxiety fading is ordinarily the biggest indicator of that. Unfortunately, the depression does tend to linger even in that stage.
And now I am hearing those fucking motorbikes outside my house. I hope that these people get tinnitus. And bad at that. I really do. There is a good chance they will, given the levels of the noise. There is really no reason for motorcycles to be so loud.
I can assure you that projecting your anger at others only makes it worse for yourself. That I can promise you from experience.

Hope you're having a better day today.

Cal, a motorcycle rider
 
@Hardwell, it seems there was a glitch, and our last two posts disappeared.

I will just write briefly again. I did not mind bikes, I even wanted to have Harley bike at a time. Two summers ago we passed though Deadwood, SD and it was quite a sight to see all the bikers who came for the Sturgis rally. Last summer I took family to Harley Davidson museum in Milwaukee, WI. Really enjoyed visiting it.

But most motorbikes are too loud, they should not be. It's hurtful for the riders as well as the public.

Anyway, it is a shame that it seems we fell victims to our hobbies - me working on a car :(

Good luck, brother.
 

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