I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

[Daniel Lion]

Not that long ago you were aggressively evangelizing for the Korean plasma injections using similar language.

I think you are just the type who tends to latch onto flavor of the month, then realize it doesn't work, then find something else, lather rinse repeat.

Hello GlennS,

Have you considered trying David Case's sound treatment?
Perhaps you should give it a go as I know you were very interested in an Irish company's technology. Mr. Case's patient reports seem to have more dramatic results when it does work than what's happening on the green island.

You won't have to wait and Mr. Case is not profiting from his invention, he is actually just helping people for free.

Good luck GlennS.

 

[JohnAdams]

Not that long ago you were aggressively evangelizing for the Korean plasma injections using similar language.

I think you are just the type who tends to latch onto flavor of the month, then realize it doesn't work, then find something else, lather rinse repeat.

@GlennS I never urged anyone to go and try this. I did start improving a lot after going there. I only said that I think it was the reason and that further studies are warranted. I never urged anyone not to go but I have advocated caution.
I strongly believe there is something to this sleeping sound therapy. Sound therapy has scientific support as well.

You are also insinuating that I am just fooling myself that my tinnitus has improved or changed, and that's an entirely different subject. I've been a hobby musician for 19 years and can play guitar, bass, stand-up bass, violin, drums, mandolin, keyboard, tambourine, kazoo, washboard, djembe, and I have a nice recording studio in my basement and I know a lot about recording and mixing audio. I know what I am hearing bloke.

 

[dgray]

We are finding that the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones are the best, and some headphones will not work.

Read this:

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Thank you for responding sir. I am going to try my other earphones that are very similar to the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones. If this works I will be forever grateful. I have suffered with debilitating noise in my head for too long.

God bless,
Douglas

 

[dgray]

Well, you can always wait for me to finish the 30 days. I just did night 8, and I also somehow got 8 hours of sleep with it. I don't see this causing a permanent spike.

Thank you for responding sir. I appreciate the help. I hope that you get the relief you are seeking.

God bless,
Douglas

 

[dgray]

Well you don't have the recommended Koss headphones do you? As the Tinnitus Mix attacks the tinnitus it will swing wildly to higher or lower pitch, that is actually a good sign. But make sure it's on low volume and get the Koss!!

Thank you sir. How low should the volume be?

 

[GlennS]

Have you considered trying David Case's sound treatment?

Yes, up to the moment where I listened to a snippet of the thing. Frankly, I'd rather listen to my tinnitus all day than subject myself to a daily course of that kind of auditory torture. Maybe if it were proven to work AND be a one shot deal the way Lenire is supposed to work, but not indefinitely for the rest of my life. No way, no how.

 

[GlennS]

You are also insinuating that I am just fooling myself that my tinnitus has improved or changed

And yet you said the same thing about your Korean treatment and you seem to want to pursue every experimental chemical concoction you can swallow or inject. So obviously nothing is truly curing you.

 

[Bndsmheowqhe]

JohnAdams is one of the most important contributors on this site. I look forward to his posts because he's logical and thoroughly researches his experiments. He's also willing to put his money where his mouth is and fly halfway around the world to do it.

 

[R. David Case]

Thank you sir. How low should the volume be?

On a scale of 1 to 10 you should start on a 2 or 3 volume level.

 

[R. David Case]

Hello GlennS,

Have you considered trying David Case's sound treatment?
Perhaps you should give it a go as I know you were very interested in an Irish company's technology. Mr. Case's patient reports seem to have more dramatic results when it does work than what's happening on the green island.

You won't have to wait and Mr. Case is not profiting from his invention, he is actually just helping people for free.

Good luck GlennS.

I agree with you, GlennS should try Tinnitus Mix and stop trying to sabotage this thread, he seems like a very bitter person. these type of members are making people not want to post their success testimonies for fear of persecution as this member states.

 

[FGG]

Day 2 (3? I skipped a day...): tried the headphones on a lower volume and further away from my ear as instructed and was able to go a full night wearing them. My spike has now reduced to about 60% of what it was. It's still above baseline but seems to now be subsiding quickly, thankfully.

I'm going to stick with this for a bit (but cautiously) and hope that it will keep reducing. Will keep y'all posted.

 

[JohnAdams]

Night 9. I still have a faint high pitch tinnitus sound around 15 kHz. No hyperacusis. No noise sensitivity.

 

[Rockrose]

7th night of headphone use - I listen every day to the sounds for at least 6 hours but not necessarily while sleeping. Often it's been hard to sleep very well while listening. My hearing has improved since starting this. I couldn't hear over 10,400 Hz with my right ear since getting tinnitus. Now I can hear over 14,600 Hz with that ear. I tested with several sound generating sites. Now the right matches more closely with my left ear. I can't tell whether or not my tinnitus (which is high pitched) is quieter but I think I've been able to ignore it more often during the day.

 

[LostOutWest]

@R. David Case

I flew about 6 hours from SFO to BOS yesterday and read this entire thread to pass the time. Man, this is a good one.

Sound Therapy makes a lot of sense to me, and Mr. Case is not trying to gain from his invention. He seems pretty great to me, actually - an anti-establishment inventor trying to help people. I am 8 weeks into my bilateral, multi-tone tinnitus, and it's been a tough battle as you all unfortunately know personally and far too well. I have no idea why my tinnitus started, but have my theory around being stressed, vitamin deficient and perhaps earbud usage but the latter is a reach. I have a very healthy audiogram all the way up to 15 kHz with only a slight dip in hearing threshold after 12 kHz (which is apparently normal for a 38 year old).

I downloaded Tinnitus Mix on the flight, and figured I'd give this a try. Seems like with all tinnitus treatments, the only way to know, is to try. Mr. Case's protocol of listening while sleeping felt spot-on. There is a bunch of research (albeit mixed, but pros and cons) on Sound Therapy for tinnitus, so it's not really far out or kooky to try Mr. Case's versions of the treatment. My expectations were set at zero.

I set the mix up to loop all night, put on a set of high quality Bose headphones on a pretty low volume (maybe 20, 30%). Fell asleep quite quickly to this sound - I didn't find it bothersome at all really. You know what's bothersome? TINNITUS. So why not listen to this weird screeching alien mix instead of the symphony in my head? Bears noting that my ears were ON BLAST from a long day of airplane travel when I went to bed. Tones, hissing, bells, alarms, all that, going off in my head. I was anxious and spent from the day.

I woke up about six hours later, to an absolutely silent head. Not a trace of tinnitus. Absolutely, 100% silent. Head to pillow, finger in ear, 27 decibel room in a house in the woods - couldn't find tinnitus anywhere. That has only happened one other time since onset of my tinnitus, and only for about 20 minutes. I was frozen in bed, flabbergasted by this experience. After an hour of bathing in the joyous, elusive silence, I stopped the track, took off the headsets, fell back asleep for 3 more hours. Woke up, I'd say tinnitus was at a 0.5/10 upon awakening, and right now I'd go as far as a 2 /10. I have a little tone-free hiss thing happening in both ears, and a small little ring somewhere that sounds far away in my right ear, that is coming and going, feeling kind of scattered and shaky.

My thoughts: can I attribute this all to Mr. Case's Tinnitus Mix? Not sure. I'm taking a bunch of supplements (NAC, IV glutathione and IV magnesium, IV B complex, injection B12 and Curcumin) so maybe they are kicking in? Is it natural healing? Maybe, I've only had tinnitus for 2 months. Maybe I'm having a super lucky day. Maybe it's the rain out here in New England, or the humidity? Maybe the acupuncture is starting to kick in or maybe I'm just super relaxed?

OR, maybe Mr. Case is a genius, and created a liberating sound treatment, and I'm a hole-in-one patient. Can we know? We cannot really know (just yet). Clearly I need more data points here than just one night, but will I listen to it again?

OH YES, YOU BET I WILL LISTEN TO THIS AGAIN TONIGHT.

 

[MRItechssuck]

Night 4 for me... Last night I tried (mid-quality) speakers pointed at each ear as I slept between them (I sleep better due to my bad back, on the floor). No worse, but not any better.

I do wish I saw this thread a month ago when my trauma happened. My ortho recently tried an MRI in his machine without earplugs to see how loud it was... and he said my ears must just be sensitive... I can't dispute that, but I would've worn earplugs had I known the dB levels.

I use the Koss headphones about 6 hours a day (my kids laugh at me... lol), and then at night I've experimented a little. Koss are painful for me, and I'm trying different pillows and MP3 players that I can wear so I don't get strangled from the headphone cord... lol. I needed the sleep, I will try the Koss again tonight and have a longer lasting MP3 player being delivered. I tried earbuds one night, and I did have a short spike.

Not much has changed, but I will press on. The mornings are loud, and during the day the noise distracts me from the tinnitus during the day. I listen for the lows and wait for the screeches, then the sci-if whoosh sound lol. Very entertaining. I'm anxious to see how air travel everyday will affect me... but that's part of my job when my back gets better.

Again, hoping for the best...For everyone.

 

[mikki_]

My hearing has improved since starting this. I couldn't hear over 10,400 Hz with my right ear since getting tinnitus. Now I can hear over 14,600 Hz with that ear. I tested with several sound generating sites.

Seriously? That sounds pretty amazing. Congrats.

 

[dgray]

On a scale of 1 to 10 you should start on a 2 or 3 volume level.

Thank you sir, I have a high quality set of Sony Wireless Noise Canceling Stereo Headset MDR-ZX770BN. I will set the volume to 30 percent and place it on a loop. Sir, if this eliminates this horrific noise or even minimizes it slightly I will gladly compensate you. To date I have literally spent thousands on so called cures; which is a drop in the bucket compared to some of the users here with stem cells, etc. I have tried hearing aides 7,500 and 4,500 for TRT with Pawel J. Jastreboff, and the only thing that has kept me going is my faith in the Lord - not the hearing aides or the TRT. I am praying that your sounds will help me and the other folks trying this.

Thank you so very much for this. I had not been following this site like I used to; but if OK with you I will keep you updated here on how this plays out.

Respectfully,
Douglas

 

[dgray]

@R. David Case

I flew about 6 hours from SFO to BOS yesterday and read this entire thread to pass the time. Man, this is a good one.

Sound Therapy makes a lot of sense to me, and Mr. Case is not trying to gain from his invention. He seems pretty great to me, actually - an anti-establishment inventor trying to help people. I am 8 weeks into my bilateral, multi-tone tinnitus, and it's been a tough battle as you all unfortunately know personally and far too well. I have no idea why my tinnitus started, but have my theory around being stressed, vitamin deficient and perhaps earbud usage but the latter is a reach. I have a very healthy audiogram all the way up to 15 kHz with only a slight dip in hearing threshold after 12 kHz (which is apparently normal for a 38 year old).

I downloaded Tinnitus Mix on the flight, and figured I'd give this a try. Seems like with all tinnitus treatments, the only way to know, is to try. Mr. Case's protocol of listening while sleeping felt spot-on. There is a bunch of research (albeit mixed, but pros and cons) on Sound Therapy for tinnitus, so it's not really far out or kooky to try Mr. Case's versions of the treatment. My expectations were set at zero.

I set the mix up to loop all night, put on a set of high quality Bose headphones on a pretty low volume (maybe 20, 30%). Fell asleep quite quickly to this sound - I didn't find it bothersome at all really. You know what's bothersome? TINNITUS. So why not listen to this weird screeching alien mix instead of the symphony in my head? Bears noting that my ears were ON BLAST from a long day of airplane travel when I went to bed. Tones, hissing, bells, alarms, all that, going off in my head. I was anxious and spent from the day.

I woke up about six hours later, to an absolutely silent head. Not a trace of tinnitus. Absolutely, 100% silent. Head to pillow, finger in ear, 27 decibel room in a house in the woods - couldn't find tinnitus anywhere. That has only happened one other time since onset of my tinnitus, and only for about 20 minutes. I was frozen in bed, flabbergasted by this experience. After an hour of bathing in the joyous, elusive silence, I stopped the track, took off the headsets, fell back asleep for 3 more hours. Woke up, I'd say tinnitus was at a 0.5/10 upon awakening, and right now I'd go as far as a 2 /10. I have a little tone-free hiss thing happening in both ears, and a small little ring somewhere that sounds far away in my right ear, that is coming and going, feeling kind of scattered and shaky.

My thoughts: can I attribute this all to Mr. Case's Tinnitus Mix? Not sure. I'm taking a bunch of supplements (NAC, IV glutathione and IV magnesium, IV B complex, injection B12 and Curcumin) so maybe they are kicking in? Is it natural healing? Maybe, I've only had tinnitus for 2 months. Maybe I'm having a super lucky day. Maybe it's the rain out here in New England, or the humidity? Maybe the acupuncture is starting to kick in or maybe I'm just super relaxed?

OR, maybe Mr. Case is a genius, and created a liberating sound treatment, and I'm a hole-in-one patient. Can we know? We cannot really know (just yet). Clearly I need more data points here than just one night, but will I listen to it again?

OH YES, YOU BET I WILL LISTEN TO THIS AGAIN TONIGHT.

I am so happy for you. This is promising, so very promising. I actually feel like there is hope. Best of luck. I will keep you in my prayers.

Douglas

 

[dgray]

Night 9. I still have a faint high pitch tinnitus sound around 15 kHz. No hyperacusis. No noise sensitivity.

That is awesome man!!

 

[MRItechssuck]

Had my Koss on all day, and now in the evening I'm at the worst levels again... bummer.

 

[JohnAdams]

@R. David Case how did you do stereo? Just run the circuit twice?

 

[R. David Case]

Thank you sir, I have a high quality set of Sony Wireless Noise Canceling Stereo Headset MDR-ZX770BN. I will set the volume to 30 percent and place it on a loop. Sir, if this eliminates this horrific noise or even minimizes it slightly I will gladly compensate you. To date I have literally spent thousands on so called cures; which is a drop in the bucket compared to some of the users here with stem cells, etc. I have tried hearing aides 7,500 and 4,500 for TRT with Pawel J. Jastreboff, and the only thing that has kept me going is my faith in the Lord - not the hearing aides or the TRT. I am praying that your sounds will help me and the other folks trying this.

Thank you so very much for this. I had not been following this site like I used to; but if OK with you I will keep you updated here on how this plays out.

Respectfully,
Douglas

Yes I have helped hundreds around the world stop the torture,many had no money because the tinnitus destroyed their lives, I hope it helps you like them. I also hope to increase the 50% success rate of Tinnitus Mix to 90 or 100% with feed back from members here on Tinnitus Talk.

 

[RishRamsey]

EDIT: Disregard my message

That is correct, but the user should not stop in the middle of the 3 weeks or tinnitus will try to reform!!

Question - If my tinnitus improves after 3 weeks (not hoping, but will certainly try), and I stop using after that, will my tinnitus return? Or do you want us to keep using it for the lifetime so that tinnitus doesn't return to normal levels?

Also, can I use Apple AirPods or any other headphones (JBL, Sennheiser, Bose). The brand you recommended isn't available in my country.

Thanks.

 

[R. David Case]

@R. David Case

I flew about 6 hours from SFO to BOS yesterday and read this entire thread to pass the time. Man, this is a good one.

Sound Therapy makes a lot of sense to me, and Mr. Case is not trying to gain from his invention. He seems pretty great to me, actually - an anti-establishment inventor trying to help people. I am 8 weeks into my bilateral, multi-tone tinnitus, and it's been a tough battle as you all unfortunately know personally and far too well. I have no idea why my tinnitus started, but have my theory around being stressed, vitamin deficient and perhaps earbud usage but the latter is a reach. I have a very healthy audiogram all the way up to 15 kHz with only a slight dip in hearing threshold after 12 kHz (which is apparently normal for a 38 year old).

I downloaded Tinnitus Mix on the flight, and figured I'd give this a try. Seems like with all tinnitus treatments, the only way to know, is to try. Mr. Case's protocol of listening while sleeping felt spot-on. There is a bunch of research (albeit mixed, but pros and cons) on Sound Therapy for tinnitus, so it's not really far out or kooky to try Mr. Case's versions of the treatment. My expectations were set at zero.

I set the mix up to loop all night, put on a set of high quality Bose headphones on a pretty low volume (maybe 20, 30%). Fell asleep quite quickly to this sound - I didn't find it bothersome at all really. You know what's bothersome? TINNITUS. So why not listen to this weird screeching alien mix instead of the symphony in my head? Bears noting that my ears were ON BLAST from a long day of airplane travel when I went to bed. Tones, hissing, bells, alarms, all that, going off in my head. I was anxious and spent from the day.

I woke up about six hours later, to an absolutely silent head. Not a trace of tinnitus. Absolutely, 100% silent. Head to pillow, finger in ear, 27 decibel room in a house in the woods - couldn't find tinnitus anywhere. That has only happened one other time since onset of my tinnitus, and only for about 20 minutes. I was frozen in bed, flabbergasted by this experience. After an hour of bathing in the joyous, elusive silence, I stopped the track, took off the headsets, fell back asleep for 3 more hours. Woke up, I'd say tinnitus was at a 0.5/10 upon awakening, and right now I'd go as far as a 2 /10. I have a little tone-free hiss thing happening in both ears, and a small little ring somewhere that sounds far away in my right ear, that is coming and going, feeling kind of scattered and shaky.

My thoughts: can I attribute this all to Mr. Case's Tinnitus Mix? Not sure. I'm taking a bunch of supplements (NAC, IV glutathione and IV magnesium, IV B complex, injection B12 and Curcumin) so maybe they are kicking in? Is it natural healing? Maybe, I've only had tinnitus for 2 months. Maybe I'm having a super lucky day. Maybe it's the rain out here in New England, or the humidity? Maybe the acupuncture is starting to kick in or maybe I'm just super relaxed?

OR, maybe Mr. Case is a genius, and created a liberating sound treatment, and I'm a hole-in-one patient. Can we know? We cannot really know (just yet). Clearly I need more data points here than just one night, but will I listen to it again?

OH YES, YOU BET I WILL LISTEN TO THIS AGAIN TONIGHT.

That's great, that is a good sign you are on your way to a tinnitus free life! Just don't skip a night for 3 weeks because the tinnitus will try to reform! Tinnitus Mix works better faster if your tinnitus is new 2-8 months, if you have had tinnitus for 20 years it takes longer for it to knock it out. Keep us informed.

 

[R. David Case]

7th night of headphone use - I listen every day to the sounds for at least 6 hours but not necessarily while sleeping. Often it's been hard to sleep very well while listening. My hearing has improved since starting this. I couldn't hear over 10,400 Hz with my right ear since getting tinnitus. Now I can hear over 14,600 Hz with that ear. I tested with several sound generating sites. Now the right matches more closely with my left ear. I can't tell whether or not my tinnitus (which is high pitched) is quieter but I think I've been able to ignore it more often during the day.

I'm so happy for you, it will get better and better, you should try to sleep with Tinnitus Mix going, try to lower volume if you can so you can sleep.

 

[R. David Case]

Night 9. I still have a faint high pitch tinnitus sound around 15 kHz. No hyperacusis. No noise sensitivity.

John I will buy you a set of Koss KTX-PRO1 if you will try them, I know you have high quality headphones but many report Tinnitus Mix works much faster with the Koss.

 

[R. David Case]

Had my Koss on all day, and now in the evening I'm at the worst levels again... bummer.

Yes Tinnitus Mix works for 50% of those that follow instructions, that means 50% of the people love me and the other 50% are not happy, I'm sorry you are not having results yet, how long have you had tinnitus? What device are you playing it on? It can take some people longer for results.

 

[R. David Case]

Question - If my tinnitus improves after 3 weeks (not hoping, but will certainly try), and I stop using after that, will my tinnitus return? Or do you want us to keep using it for the lifetime so that tinnitus doesn't return to normal levels?

Also, can I use Apple AirPods or any other headphones (JBL, Sennheiser, Bose). The brand you recommended isn't available in my country.

Thanks.

After the tinnitus is reduced or knocked out in three weeks you MAY have to play it once or twice a week as maintenance. If you search further I think you can find the Koss but one other set has proved to work, the Bose noise cancelling headphones, but they are $350 instead of $19 for the Koss.

 

[R. David Case]

7th night of headphone use - I listen every day to the sounds for at least 6 hours but not necessarily while sleeping. Often it's been hard to sleep very well while listening. My hearing has improved since starting this. I couldn't hear over 10,400 Hz with my right ear since getting tinnitus. Now I can hear over 14,600 Hz with that ear. I tested with several sound generating sites. Now the right matches more closely with my left ear. I can't tell whether or not my tinnitus (which is high pitched) is quieter but I think I've been able to ignore it more often during the day.

I also had lost my high frequency hearing range when I had tinnitus, now after 18 years of using Tinnitus Mix my hearing is so good I can hear those ultra-sonic mouse repellers you plug in the wall... lol I can hear a pin drop.

 

[JohnAdams]

Night 10. Slept 8 hours with it. It really seems like the longer you sleep with it the more effective it is.

Right now sitting in my office. If I could stay this way I would be cured. Not improved, but cured.

Time will tell.