There is no available evidence for or against it being a placebo.Provide any evidence it is not placebo please.
How can they provide something they cannot obtain? And how does their inability to do so in anyway reinforce your argument?
There is no available evidence for or against it being a placebo.Provide any evidence it is not placebo please.
No, but I guess I should as I won't like to pay 1000€ for the 1st appointment in Hannover (although it's just 2 hours by car).Anyone given Neuromod a poke recently regarding appointments? I emailed this morning but waiting on a response.
I'm wondering this too, as they told me I would hear from them by the end of November. Any information you can share would be appreciated. If I don't hear anything this week, I might call them again.Anyone given Neuromod a poke recently regarding appointments? I emailed this morning but waiting on a response.
No, a few days ago they told me they are going to email me as soon as possible for 2020 appointments.I'm wondering this too, as they told me I would hear from them by the end of November. Any information you can share would be appreciated. If I don't hear anything this week, I might call them again.
It's as close as we can get to evidence right now, but the current measurement methods are lacking in one thing: they measure the patient's findings, which are subjective.There is some physical evidence that Lenire works. One of the users has said that his tinnitus decreased, and his improvement was actually measured at his final visit at Neuromod office. I don't know if other users also have actually measured their decrease in tinnitus.
I think that it could be harder to measure the intensity of person's tinnitus, rather than the loudness. For example, if you have 10 different sounds in your tinnitus, and Lenire decreases the loudness of one of those sounds, can you measure the improvement in your tinnitus? Some people on this forum would just say that you're experiencing placebo effect.
I do wonder if EEG measurements before and after would be an indicator for what is happening. According to a paper by Sven Vanneste and others there were some EEG similarities between tinnitus and depression.It's as close as we can get to evidence right now, but the current measurement methods are lacking in one thing: they measure the patient's findings, which are subjective.
There still is no foolproof way to objectively measure the exact sounds that a person is hearing. I guess this is one of the reasons that so many ENTs stay away from tinnitus development as far as possible. At least pain is clearly recognizable for everyone, but sound? It's already hard to describe exactly what one hears, never mind the lack of objective data...
Not saying that I doubt the testimonies or the bimodal process itself. This is still the field that looks most promising IMO when it comes to a cure. I just hope some true objective measurement technique surfaces eventually, so that there can no longer be any doubt as to whether a treatment has effect or not.
Would be quite intesting indeed.I do wonder if EEG measurements before and after would be an indicator for what is happening. According to a paper by Sven Vanneste and others there were some EEG similarities between tinnitus and depression.
You're better off making up your own "facts" than relying on this thread.Can someone give me a TLDR of recent events with Lenire?
I have been following the User Experiences thread, but not this one. Based on that thread it seems to be hit or miss, but certain timings work better for others. Has Neuromod confirmed personalizing the treatment more?
It's not so much about the prediction. Relating to Lenire and other treatments for tinnitus it would be interesting what effect it has on the signaling of the brain. Since we can measure it and at least Brai3n in Belgium has an array of different tinnitus treatment options and are apparently on the way to offer Lenire + Sven recently moved to Dublin to work on further subtyping of tinnitus, my bet is that using EEG will give us a better picture of wtf is happening. Would love if it was to be incorporated into Lenire to datamine us patients to get a better understanding. Sadly we are in commercial territory in a way...Would be quite intesting indeed.
Unfortunately, there is no way to accurately predict whether someone will get tinnitus or not. Still, it should be possible to invite a X amount of adults that are physically fine for a test, and do a new test a few years later to check for changes. Statistically, at least some of them should have obtained tinnitus: the others could serve as an indicator whether observed changes happen in a regular person as well.
With an objective measurement, some people might finally shut up about it all being between the ears... well, figuratively. Literally the issue actually exists there, of course
There have been more successful updates on this thread showing further progress for some of the users themselves or if not from members who know others that are using the device.Can someone give me a TLDR of recent events with Lenire?
I have been following the User Experiences thread, but not this one. Based on that thread it seems to be hit or miss, but certain timings work better for others. Has Neuromod confirmed personalizing the treatment more?
PS1 seems to be the juice. Whenever people switch to PS4 it's usually not as good but it usually still works, it's mostly to keep PS1 effective.There have been more successful updates on this thread showing further progress for some of the users themselves or if not from members who know others that are using the device.
It seems Neuromod is using PS1 setting for most the first time, then PS4, then back to PS1 again, as they have said this was their most successful setting.
It makes me wonder, especially with the costs involved in international travel, whether a 6 week timeout on PS1 would serve the same purpose of dehabituating the brain as turning on and off PS4 for 6 weeks.PS4 it's usually not as good
Amazing.My appointment to pick up Lenire has been advanced to next Thursday! Initially it was the 20th of December and now the 10th!
For most people the results aren't complete silence level, but it is helping most by some reduction of volume, change of pitch, making it easier to mask and forget about in day to day life, etc. There is a small minority that it may not help much, but the overall the odds are still much in our favor for at least some reduction.Hi everybody,
I received my invitation today. I want to try it but are the results good enough to take the risk?
Last time I paid for therapy in Germany, low-level laser therapy thing for 2200€... To be honest I'm a bit scared to be fooled again...
I also have hearing loss in the ear where I have my tinnitus. So it might be possible to not be accepted for Lenire at the end...