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[weab00]

Cancer and tinnitus are not the same thing. I have previously told you I have nothing against tinnitus research. Those that want to embrace it they are welcome to do so. I am to referring to noise induced tinnitus with or without the presence of hyperacusis, which is different from tinnitus caused by an underlying medical condition. Tinnitus caused by an underlying medical condition within the auditory system or elsewhere in the body, needs to be researched, and can be treated my a physician. Noise induced tinnitus is a completely different kettle of fish. Doctors do not treat It.

This comes under Audiology and the patient should see either an Audiologist/Hearing Therapist that specialise in tinnitus and hyperacusis treatment.

Michael

No I'm definitely not saying that cancer and tinnitus are the same thing. I'm just asking, imploring you to imagine how much further behind in cancer research we'd be if scientists focused solely on cognitive behavioral therapy and not chemotherapy, etc. Can't you use the least bit of deductive reasoning to understand this is what I mean when I compare the two in terms of research? It's frustrating for any condition to fall victim to the endless CBT research money making machine, like chronic fatigue syndrome, tinnitus, VSS, etc. It's time for organizations like the ATA to start giving grants to better research into the mechanisms and cures for tinnitus.

We rely on the forward thinkers to advance society and technology. Imagine if in the 1400s we said, "bloodletting is good enough, I don't get why people want more." Or if we hadn't sailed the seven seas and realized the Earth wasn't flat... right? :^)

 

[Phendran]

It is interesting to talk about other things and if you want we can discuss them right here on the forum.

It all sounds very fancy. :3

I like to play games. The latest one I played through is called Death Stranding.
It's a sci-fi thriller with a bunch of egyptian death-mythos mixed in.
Quite an experience.

Del Toro and Mikkelsen are in it. :3

Some slight warnings for loud noises. Might be best watched with low volume the first time.

 

[JulianBrumbelow]

 

[Phendran]

@weab00
Reading copious amounts of information usually serves one purpose and that is reinforcing negative thinking.

With all due respect, could you argue for this?

What did you base this statement on?

 

[Contrast]

New Age Truths with Professor General Contrast

Hello, I'm professor general contrast and welcome to the "New Age Truths" section on My Posting Place. Have you ever wondered if the Universe was a giant fucking brain-(like thing)?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...ape-cosmic-web-galaxies-neurons-b1724170.html

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34703841/human-brain-universe-similarities/

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/scie...work-of-galaxies-in-the-universe-9034231.html

What if we are living in a trillionth of a pico second of activity that is occurring in a infinite cosmic mind. We (and all biological metabolizing systems) are isolated fragments of said infinite, interdimensional cosmic mind. The best way to look at it is like this. From the third person, my mental experiences look like a brain and neural network. But from the inside it's my qualitative subjective mental experience. But you see it as a brain! Why can't the same be said about the Universe? That would make it appear as if we are isolated fragments in a cosmic mind.

If this is true, death is simply refusing with the Universal mind. Tiny C consciousness fusing with a God-like mind.

For more new age truths, check out the following resource

 

[weab00]

The average color of the universe, hex coded #FFF8E7 (Cosmic Latté). Turns out it's a boring beige.

 

[Contrast]

The average color of the universe, hex coded #FFF8E7 (Cosmic Latté). Turns out it's a boring beige.

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That's racist, judging the Universe's third person appearance from your subjective experience. The new age crackpot is saying that the Universe is a infinite mind, dreaming up all sorts of spacial temporal realities. We just find ourselves in one of them.

 

[Contrast]

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https://maxweb.com/campaigns

 

[Michael Leigh]

With all due respect, could you argue for this?
What did you base this statement on?

You have asked two good questions and and been respectful, unlike some that merely want to challenge me as a prelude to starting an argument, because I have dared to air an opinion that differs from their own.

A person that is affected by tinnitus especially in the early stages, it's natural to want to know more about it and the treatments available that might be of help. I see nothing wrong with this and regard it as perfectly normal but only up to a point. There is a lot of negativity surrounding tinnitus both online and in forums. If one isn't careful they can become overwhelmed, particularly associating with negative thinking people and reading their posts. This isn't good as tinnitus is mental, intrinsically linked to our mental and emotional well-being and cannot be separated from it. When I say tinnitus is mental, I don't mean it's perception or severity can be managed by pure thought. It is well known stress, anxiety can profoundly affect the way it behaves.

In addition to the above, reading copious amounts of data and research material at tinnitus websites - I'm referring to noise induced tinnitus and hyperacusis, can reinforce negative thinking, for often these people are searching for cures for these conditions and nothing else is acceptable. They use the term: effective treatment but they really mean "a cure." It can become an obsession which I alluded to in my previous post on this thread. When they meet likeminded people in tinnitus forums, they feel that they have arrived at a place where they've found true concord.

My opinions are based on many years experience with noise induced tinnitus. Corresponding with people at various tinnitus forums, by email and counselling people by phone.

I wish you well.

Michael

 

[Contrast]

No thanks Sir, Adobe Photoshop cost money and you still can never legally own it. I prefer getting free money stuff from the Government while using the GNU Image Manipulation Program. (Gimp) It's free in price and freedom. I even made the starburst swirl wheel in another free program called Pixelitor. Paying for software is not for me. I don't have a job, and use free and open source software to rebuke online health scams.

(creates a bunch of new layers so the bottles can have a proper shadow effect)

Make a new layer, Go to my fire brushes and select the color orange. You can even then select all and gradient orange, before adding the glow GMIC effect (that gives it the flame property)

FIRE TIME

Add a bend and burnt effect to the bottles.

Repeat process.

 

[weab00]

You have asked two good questions and and been respectful, unlike some that merely want to challenge me as a prelude to starting an argument, because I have dared to air an opinion that differs from their own.

This is funny man, sneak dissing. Feel free to @ me. I'm not hating on you simply for having a different opinion, I like open discussions and I will change my mind when I see a convincing argument.

It's just that you're yet to provide any verifiable non anecdotal evidence supporting TRT, and when asked for research you choose to bash the very concept of it instead. I'm afraid you've hid yourself in several layers of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias. But yeah, it's easier to passively call people disrespectful than attack the central argument.

 

[Michael Leigh]

This is funny man, sneak dissing. Feel free to @ me. I'm not hating on you simply for having a different opinion, I like open discussions and I will change my mind when I see a convincing argument.

I understand your reasons for thinking that I was referring to you in my previous post but in this instance I wasn't. You have been respectful recently and that's the reason I have replied to you. However, please note I am not here to defend TRT to you or anyone else for I have had the treatment twice and it helped and written posts on it for people to read, which are on my Started Threads. My reasons for attending this forum is to give advice to anyone asking for help with tinnitus and hyperacusis and not necessarily to engage in long winded debates. Although if I find a topic of interest with another member, I will participate in discussion for a while.

Michael

 

[Contrast]

i'm working on making starburst spirals (using pixelitor and gimp). If I learned how to draw vectors or graphics and art, I could put a character of my own in the centre.

 

[Bartoli]

As I have previously said. I will voice my opinion how and when I like providing it's within the rules of this forum. If you have a problem with the way I express myself then please place me on ignore as I will you if I am provoked. I do not interfere with anything you say and I've read some of your posts and they are pure negativity but that's your concern.

I wish you well.
Michael

Please feel free to ignore my negativity, as well as "interfere" with anything I post. It's what a forum is about.
I prefer the term debate or discuss. "Interfere" makes you sound like a Russian 007-villain.

 

[Phendran]

In addition to the above, reading copious amounts of data and research material at tinnitus websites - I'm referring to noise induced tinnitus and hyperacusis, can reinforce negative thinking, for often these people are searching for cures for these conditions and nothing else is acceptable.

Yeah, I could see that. :3

So it is the stress-inducing search for reassurances and/or the scary realizations of no relief being currently easily available that causes the negativity, rather than the science itself, do I understand you correctly?

 

[HeavyMantra]

Are there any studies indicating that "stress" and "negativity" can worsen tinnitus and not just reinforce the negative emotions that often follow, making tinnitus harder to deal with calmly? I'm talking an actual mechanism to support these claims. Limbic system involvement is often mentioned, but how would that work exactly?

 

[Michael Leigh]

Yeah, I could see that. :3

So it is the stress-inducing search for reassurances and/or the scary realizations of no relief being currently easily available that causes the negativity, rather than the science itself, do I understand you correctly?

Stress makes tinnitus worse tinnitus makes stress worse. It can become a vicious circle of discontent if one isn't careful. Any Hearing Therapist or Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus and hyperacusis management will tell you the same as I have. You can find this out for yourself. Whenever you become stressed you'll notice the tinnitus become more intrusive.

Please click on the links below and read more about positivity, negativity and their impact on a person's mental and emotional wellbeing.

Take care
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/acquiring-a-positive-mindset.23969/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-the-negative-mindset.23705/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/can-tinnitus-counselling-help.22366/

 

[Michael Leigh]

Please feel free to ignore my negativity, as well as "interfere" with anything I post. It's what a forum is about.
I prefer the term debate or discuss. "Interfere" makes you sound like a Russian 007-villain.

I am here to help people in distress with tinnitus and that is all...

 

[Michael Leigh]

Are there any studies indicating that "stress" and "negativity" can worsen tinnitus and not just reinforce the negative emotions that often follow, making tinnitus harder to deal with calmly? I'm talking an actual mechanism to support these claims. Limbic system involvement is often mentioned, but how would that work exactly?

You are not new to tinnitus HeavyMantra so you don't need studies about stress and tinnitus. I know you are going through a difficult time, so try to forget studies and tinnitus research because I don't think that's going to help you. If you are unable to see an Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus and hyperacusis management, then try self help by engaging and doing things to bring positivity into your life. Medication is an avenue to pursue so have a word with your GP. It helped me.

Michael

 

[weab00]

Are there any studies indicating that "stress" and "negativity" can worsen tinnitus and not just reinforce the negative emotions that often follow, making tinnitus harder to deal with calmly? I'm talking an actual mechanism to support these claims. Limbic system involvement is often mentioned, but how would that work exactly?

Why do you want a study about TRT ideology? It obviously works, research is bad. Bloodletting is good too, no reason to discredit it.

 

[HeavyMantra]

You are not new to tinnitus HeavyMantra so you don't need studies about stress and tinnitus. I know you are going through a difficult time, so try to forget studies and tinnitus research because I don't think that's going to help you. If you are unable to see an Audiologist that specialises in tinnitus and hyperacusis management, then try self help by engaging and doing things to bring positivity into your life. Medication is an avenue to pursue so have a word with your GP. It helped me.

Michael

I'm an audiology student so I read scientific papers quite often Michael. I care less and less about anecdotal reports, they only mean something if they come from an intelligent person that has drawn the right conclusions.

I actually haven't experienced any correlaction between tinnitus volume and stress at all. That's just for me though. My tinnitus fluctuates from day to day without any reasons that I can identify, and I've been keeping daily notes for about 1,5 years now. Stress can make tinnitus more bothersome, but the volume is the same for me. Tinnitus causes stress though, this is proven. But this does not mean that stress causes tinnitus.

Guess what though... I just found out that only TWO HOURS are spent on tinnitus and hyperacusis during the 3 year Audiology education in Sweden. I hope I misread but it really seems like this is the case. No wonder these people are clueless about tinnitus.

If you mean benzos, you can't get them legally in Sweden unless you are psychotic and violent pretty much.

Perhaps you think I read things about research in hopes of a cure? That's not the case. I have accepted that this is probably permanent and I work every day on maintaining a positive and stoic mindset.

 

[HeavyMantra]

Why do you want a study about TRT ideology? It obviously works, research is bad. Bloodletting is good too, no reason to discredit it.

I pick up on your sarcasm here, but I want studies on the neural mechanisms of tinnitus. TRT has nothing to do with it.

 

[weab00]

Guess what though... I just found out that only TWO HOURS are spent on tinnitus and hyperacusis during the 3 year Audiology education in Sweden. I hope I misread but it really seems like this is the case. No wonder these people are clueless about tinnitus.

Yeah so little is taught about hyperacusis and tinnitus and people like him are putting so much faith into the audiology establishment. These people get called experts for taking a 2 hour course in the 90's and think they know more than the sufferers themselves. It's a sham.

Also, anecdotes are useless. But TRTrs cling to them.

 

[HeavyMantra]

Yeah so little is taught about hyperacusis and tinnitus and people like him are putting so much faith into the audiology establishment. These people get called experts for taking a 2 hour course in the 90's and think they know more than the sufferers themselves. It's a sham.

Also, anecdotes are useless. But TRTrs cling to them.

I have a slightly more balanced view on TRT. In Sweden, healthcare is free but also mostly useless. That means that people are offered aid based on TRT for free (for instance year long online courses about tinnitus and hyperacusis management, but like I said it's just based on TRT and not "official". No need to pay anything, in-ear noise generators are free as well as counseling in the rare cases that it's offered.

I have to imagine this has helped a large number of people here in Sweden through the years.

 

[weab00]

I have a slightly more balanced view on TRT. In Sweden, healthcare is free but also mostly useless. That means that people are offered aid based on TRT for free (for instance year long online courses about tinnitus and hyperacusis management, but like I said it's just based on TRT and not "official". No need to pay anything, in-ear noise generators are free as well as counseling in the rare cases that it's offered.

I have to imagine this has helped a large number of people here in Sweden through the years.

In the US you go bankrupt for it. And there's little to no proof of TRT's effectiveness against placebo.

 

[HeavyMantra]

In the US you go bankrupt for it. And there little to no proof of TRT's effectiveness against placebo.

I know, and that's not something I support obviously. I understand why people in the US are more mad about TRT in general. From where I'm sitting, when it comes to healthcare and education the US seems like a very scary place to live. Then again, our taxes are high enough to make most ambitious business owners leave. Sweden is better for fuckups like myself, at least until it all collapses.

 

[Michael Leigh]

@HeavyMantra

Thank you for writing such an interesting and informative post. Hope you are able to complete your Audiology course. If you're going to branch out and specialise in tinnitus and hyperacusis management and treatment you will be more than qualified and think you'd be very good at it the main reason is this: An Audiologist/Hearing Therapist that is going to help tinnitus and and hyperacusis patients with counselling has to have tinnitus themselves as it's the only way to understand and know about this condition, because it cannot be learnt from a book.

I often correspond with Audiologists that have their own practice or work at a medical centre seeing tinnitus patients. The Audiologists also have tinnitus just as my Hearing Therapist that I had for TRT, was born with tinnitus.

Hope things continue to go well for you.

Michael

PS: I was prescribed Clonazepam in 2010 and it helped me immensely. I was advised to only take it when the tinnitus is severe and have never had a problem with it. I still have it on prescription but taking it less now only once every 6 or 8 weeks and just for a day or two them stop.

 

[Bartoli]

I am here to help people in distress with tinnitus and that is all...

That's very noble indeed. So why do you think it is that some people disagree with you when you tell them not to go inform themselves?

 

[Michael Leigh]

So why do you think it is that some people disagree with you when you tell them not to go inform themselves?

I have never said to anyone not to go and inform themselves. Please read my post, digest it then you will understand.

 

[Phendran]

Take care
Michael

You too~