MemberIt might be a good idea to fast or intermittently fast after doing this procedure to pump out a few extra stem cells while the PRP is doing its thing over the course of 3 months. Double team that shiat.
Solsaem Clinic (Dr. Minbo Shim) Experience
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Agreed, but only afterward because during the whole thing you're on antibiotics and you have to eat with those.
- May 7, 2015
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- Tinnitus Since
- 29.09/2014
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma using headphones
wait, what? you have to take antibiotics, one of the things we fear most from worsening our tinnitus, during the 2 week procedure? Are these confirmed non-otoxic antibiotics?
Just wait until I post my new audiograms.
Did you already post your pre-Korea audiogram somewhere?
I don't know. I can check. Either way, I don't see how you couldn't take antibiotics after getting a bone marrow extraction.
- Mar 1, 2018
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- birth/ recent spike 2/2018
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- Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
There are a few antibiotics such as gentamicin, streptomycin, and tobramycin that when taken in extremely large doses are ototoxic. Most of the antibiotic fear around here is unsubstantiated reports by people and Web (false) Doctors writing random ass blog articles.
I'm normally very much against antibiotic use.
I think I got antibiotics for the two weeks, but I got septum surgery. You need them. Your tinnitus will definitely go away if you're dead from an infection. I think I got a penicillin derivative.
Dr Shim is fully aware of ototoxicity, I'm sure. And I think I got a probiotic with each antibiotic.
I think I got antibiotics for the two weeks, but I got septum surgery. You need them. Your tinnitus will definitely go away if you're dead from an infection. I think I got a penicillin derivative.
Dr Shim is fully aware of ototoxicity, I'm sure. And I think I got a probiotic with each antibiotic.
Looking up just the first one you suggested on the National Institutes of Health, which is not a Web (false) Doctors writing random ass blog, says this on its warning and doesn't mention anywhere that it needs to be in large doses.
"Gentamicin may cause serious hearing problems. Hearing problems may occur more often in older people. Hearing loss may be permanent in some cases. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had dizziness, vertigo, hearing loss, or ringing in the ears. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately: hearing loss, roaring or ringing in the ears, or dizziness."
- Mar 1, 2018
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- Tinnitus Since
- birth/ recent spike 2/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
I think you are confused. Re read my post please.
I never said random ass blog posts list the cin class as ototoxic (since all websites would) I implied there are two classes (roughly) of antibiotics. 1) known ototoxic in larger doses (such as the cin class) and 2) ones that random ass web docs say can cause hearing loss (like amoxicillin).
Hopefully that makes things more clear!
I'll have to ask Dr. Shim but I'm pretty sure it was Amoxicillin. I think he switched it up half way through to another one. I'll ask.
Hi GlennAz,
How are you holding up? Still sleeping well I hope.
You mentioned you went for hearing loss, does your tinnitus bother you or is it not really a burden?
How are those headphones working out, do they vibrate?
Just giving you a shout, hope you're well.
Daniel
How are you holding up? Still sleeping well I hope.
You mentioned you went for hearing loss, does your tinnitus bother you or is it not really a burden?
How are those headphones working out, do they vibrate?
Just giving you a shout, hope you're well.
Daniel
Hi Daniel, work is very busy. I haven't been sleeping as much bc of what's going on.
We will see how sleep goes by the weekend, when things settle down.
I still have tinnitus. I didn't go for that. But it hasn't stopped at all. Actually, tinnitus seems louder right now, more hissing, I'm not sure why. But the tinnitus doesn't bother me. Of course, I'd prefer not to have it since I know it's abnormal.
I use the bone conduction headphones 2-3x per day. They are very light, and streamlined and comfortable. They are called Trekz Air...unbelievably powerful for their size.
At first, I didn't even know if they were on, when they were on. I might be tuning better into them now. I still don't hear as well thru them as if I had headphones in my ear canals.
I still cant understand conversation as well.
We will see how sleep goes by the weekend, when things settle down.
I still have tinnitus. I didn't go for that. But it hasn't stopped at all. Actually, tinnitus seems louder right now, more hissing, I'm not sure why. But the tinnitus doesn't bother me. Of course, I'd prefer not to have it since I know it's abnormal.
I use the bone conduction headphones 2-3x per day. They are very light, and streamlined and comfortable. They are called Trekz Air...unbelievably powerful for their size.
At first, I didn't even know if they were on, when they were on. I might be tuning better into them now. I still don't hear as well thru them as if I had headphones in my ear canals.
I still cant understand conversation as well.
Work... aghhhhhh... that will affect your sleep.
The conduction headphones sound interesting, and I am sorry your tinnitus sounds louder but you don't seemed to stressed by it... which is very good.
Thanks for getting back to me GlennAz.
It's a shame you couldn't have chilled for a bit after going to Korea, try not to overdo things.
I admire your strength and will, take good care and thanks for the update.
The conduction headphones sound interesting, and I am sorry your tinnitus sounds louder but you don't seemed to stressed by it... which is very good.
Thanks for getting back to me GlennAz.
It's a shame you couldn't have chilled for a bit after going to Korea, try not to overdo things.
I admire your strength and will, take good care and thanks for the update.
It will be up and down for a couple of months. Trust me, just be patient. After about 2.5 to 3 months you will notice any results if any.
Just remember to protect your ears.
@JohnAdams Did Dr. Shim by any chance mention the efficacy of his treatment for hyperacusis at all?
I haven't noticed improvements yet in speech.
But I think this Trekz Air thing, that Dr Shim gave me, seems to be slightly more understandable. I'll play music, and it seems to be getting a little better. It could be my imagination, or I'm adjusting better to these headphones.
But I think this Trekz Air thing, that Dr Shim gave me, seems to be slightly more understandable. I'll play music, and it seems to be getting a little better. It could be my imagination, or I'm adjusting better to these headphones.
No. My hyperacusis has vanished, it has come and gone before but it's been over a month since I had it. So... seems like restoring hearing fixes that. There's a lot of unknowns in all of this since it is so new and there's no big pharma big data.
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@GlennAz,
I apologize if you have already done so previously, but would you elaborate on these bone conduction headphones? Or maybe you could direct me to one of your previous posts?
To weigh in on the antibiotics, one of a few culprits that my neurologist suspected could contribute to my hearing damage was ototoxicity from a decent dose of Ciprofloxacin. I'm not too familiar with the families of antibiotics, but I can share that Cipro is a 'Fluoroquinolone.' Come on John, you have to ask Shim? Pay attention to what you put into your body.
I apologize if you have already done so previously, but would you elaborate on these bone conduction headphones? Or maybe you could direct me to one of your previous posts?
To weigh in on the antibiotics, one of a few culprits that my neurologist suspected could contribute to my hearing damage was ototoxicity from a decent dose of Ciprofloxacin. I'm not too familiar with the families of antibiotics, but I can share that Cipro is a 'Fluoroquinolone.' Come on John, you have to ask Shim? Pay attention to what you put into your body.
Hi Humpty,
The bone conduction headphones Dr Shim gave me are Trekz Air. If you do a google, you'll get mucho info about them.
Dr Shim is well read on things. I can't believe he'd give an ototoxic antibiotic, after all the cochlear regeneration work he does. I'm pretty sure it was a penicillin derivative, but I don't know what. I don't have a clue about the mg.
You're asking details that I don't know, and most likely John doesn't know either.
I trust Dr Shim. He doesn't explain every little thing, exactly what's in every IV bottle, how he preps the drawn blood or bone marrow before injection, whatever he may or may not add. He's a busy guy. Maybe these details are proprietary things, and he doesn't want his info given away?
Anyone who goes to him is going to need to trust him. He does what he can to help people with their issues.
Sorry if I'm blunt, but this is the way it is with what went on there.
The bone conduction headphones Dr Shim gave me are Trekz Air. If you do a google, you'll get mucho info about them.
Dr Shim is well read on things. I can't believe he'd give an ototoxic antibiotic, after all the cochlear regeneration work he does. I'm pretty sure it was a penicillin derivative, but I don't know what. I don't have a clue about the mg.
You're asking details that I don't know, and most likely John doesn't know either.
I trust Dr Shim. He doesn't explain every little thing, exactly what's in every IV bottle, how he preps the drawn blood or bone marrow before injection, whatever he may or may not add. He's a busy guy. Maybe these details are proprietary things, and he doesn't want his info given away?
Anyone who goes to him is going to need to trust him. He does what he can to help people with their issues.
Sorry if I'm blunt, but this is the way it is with what went on there.
I actually did use my translator to check every pill he gave me and looked up the codes. I just didn't remember exactly what it was. I already said I thought it was Amoxycillin and I verified that's what it was. Sorry I don't have a perfect memory. End result is my hearing and tinnitus improved and that's all I care about.
Of course there is a limit. You could theoretically have complete restoration of all hair cells and the range of hearing would still be limited by the resonant frequencies of the different parts of your cochlea and your hearing sensitivity would be limited by the minimum mechanical stimulation threshold to cause an impulse at the nerve.
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Hi John, I'm glad you could figure it out. I couldn't figure out what the pills were or dosages of each.
After a few days, Dr Shim said I need more fattier meat, and fattier chicken to help make more bone marrow (I always prefer lean meats). I started having meat 2-3x per day.
Shortly after my increased fattier meat consumption, he pointed to one of the pills for me, and said that's for high cholesterol. I have no idea what that pill was. I'm glad he was thinking about that stuff. I wasn't.
After a few days, Dr Shim said I need more fattier meat, and fattier chicken to help make more bone marrow (I always prefer lean meats). I started having meat 2-3x per day.
Shortly after my increased fattier meat consumption, he pointed to one of the pills for me, and said that's for high cholesterol. I have no idea what that pill was. I'm glad he was thinking about that stuff. I wasn't.
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