South Korean Clinic Treatment (Dr. Minbo Shim)

[Rubenslash]

Or your hidden hearing loss, you already mentioned you have difficulties understanding speech with background noise.

I don't understand why you are still looking for a cause. It's so clear in your case: hearing loss.

 

[Rasmus]

Or your hidden hearing loss, you already mentioned you have difficulties understanding speech with background noise.

I don't understand why you are still looking for a cause. It's so clear in your case: hearing loss.

because it would be nice to know for sure, im not a expert in this i just know there is hearing loss and hidden hearing loss

 

[RaZaH]

could that be the reason for my T?

Possibly . What freq is your T ?

 

[Rasmus]

Possibly . What freq is your T ?

I would say i have some T sound around the 15000-16000, but its hard to tell because when i listing to it my T goess down in volum, and i also a few other tunes :/ but i would say my T is in the high Hz area

 

[RaZaH]

I cannot for the life of me understand why one dude in Korea has the key to fixing hearing and multibillion companies dont, anyone have any theories ?

 

[mcgregor]

may be the Korean dude has just by passed all the mice and rats, and went straight for the glory on human's

 

[Jake007]

I totally agree with you raza, if one guy in a clinic can do it you'd sure think those big companies would have even further effective treatment. If I ever win the lottery I am taking all of us there and we aren't leaving till we are happy.

 

[spingee]

We still dont know what he does...

 

[RaZaH]

so, what do you guys think , should we be taking this guy seriously ?
I have been in contact with him , he says he can help for sure ....who the hell knows?

 

[Jake007]

I take him seriously, haven't had contact with him but everything I've read and watched seems legit to me and I would most definitely go if I had 30 grand.

 

[Jake007]

Someone on here said ateos threw the kitchen sink at his t. I'm willing to throw the bathtub at mine but I'm not rich.

 

[Bobby B]

the Korean government is supporting stem cells research quite aggressively as an attempt to pull the country out of recession.

But I just read a paper from 2015 which says its very hard for the injected cells to even survive for long inside the high potassium environment of the cochlea so who knows ..

 

[Michael Larsen]

He could just sell his research / treatment to a huge multibillion companies, so he did not need to work any more?

 

[RaZaH]

if I had 30 grand.

Why 30 grand ? Its 6 grand per ear.

 

[Jake007]

Why 30 grand ? Its 6 grand per ear.

I was thinking of the one ateos went to, thanks for the correction.

 

[VRZ78]

I think they have it but they have to go through the procedure...

 

[RaZaH]

I think they have it but they have to go through the procedure...

Possibly , but I would think they would still promote it , for stock price purposes etc.
Don't you think we would at least have some sort of press release ?

 

[VRZ78]

He could just sell his research / treatment to a huge multibillion companies, so he did not need to work any more?

I don't think he discovered a new molecule... He's just using public data from research articles. His main use is growth factors check several page before this one

 

[RaZaH]

growth factors

What is that ? Different from stem cell ?

 

[VRZ78]

Possibly , but I would think they would still promote it , for stock price purposes etc.
Don't you think we would at least have some sort of press release ?

Well there are a lot of research article on what helps hearing loss. Plus there are at least 3 companies that aim to start clinical trial next year so it's just a matter of time.

And I think companies are focused on curing profound and severe hearing loss, by creating new hair cell. I don't think this guy treatment create new hair cell, it most likely repair the ones that are damaged but still alive.

 

[VRZ78]

What is that ? Different from stem cell ?

Yes I'm no expert but it is like a substance that promote reparation of cells.
The thing that Liberman wants to use to cure T and H is a growth factors for example. This one will promote the reconnection of the synapses that are disconnected from the cochlea

 

[VRZ78]

For me it's obvious that the guy studied the latest research papers on hearing loss and as he seems to be a competent doctor he was able to try them himself. There is no way he found his own treatment. Maybe he combined different things I don't know.
Or he stole the recipes from Heller lab lol

 

[RaZaH]

Read testimonies are so reassuring ....

 

[Twitch]

Haha well spotted

 

[RaZaH]

Another one

 

[Rasmus]

may be the Korean dude has just by passed all the mice and rats, and went straight for the glory on human's

Well i hope so but little hard to believe only time will tell

 

[Rubenslash]

I cannot for the life of me understand why one dude in Korea has the key to fixing hearing and multibillion companies dont, anyone have any theories ?

What make you believe this?

There are 3 biotech companies starting trials in 2018, perhaps (most likely in my opinion) they already have a better product now than this Korean guy, we don't know.

 

[Michael Larsen]

I think that they have a better product, but it's just a long time to wait 5 - 7 years for this comes on the market, if we are very lucky.

 

[RaZaH]

What make you believe this?

Well, hes already applying his technique , most trials so far have been unsuccessful or possibly successful in 5-10 years

 

[Rubenslash]

Well, hes already applying his technique , most trials so far have been unsuccessful or possibly successful in 5-10 years

I am talking about hearing regeneration trials. There is only one ongoing trial (GenVec) and the others will start in 2018. You are referring to trials about a T cure, I am not talking about this.

And what do you expect? That a large biotech/pharma company starts to deliver regenerative therapies without a clinical trial? They would lose their license to operate in any medical field.