Member- Mar 6, 2018
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- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
If you wanted to re-create the human model using the lab mice formula, you would have to take 27 of the 1000mg pills if you are around 200 lbs.
Taurine and Tinnitus
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If you wanted to re-create the human model using the lab mice formula, you would have to take 27 of the 1000mg pills if you are around 200 lbs.
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
I think this was something like a 6 week study or so...in theory this could work but popping 27 pills of anything at once would just feel wrong... I think.
Anyway, if anyone here is brave enough to try, keep the rest of us posted...
1MW
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- Nov 25, 2014
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- 2008 but cured and relapsed from benzos
- Cause of Tinnitus
- ssnhl/benzos/unknown
I took 2mg diazepam before sleep and I slept about 3 hours and when I woke up I had
a strange tinnitus I had never heard before.
So I drank a local herbal tea (it has not affected tinnitus) and I took 500mg taurine & 100mg magnesium glycinate.
After about 40-60mins my tinnitus went to 0 (checked with earmuffs in a silent room).
I don't know if this has to do with variation to my tinnitus or the supplements I get...
Definitely taurine potentiates benzos and give you a nice relaxing feeling.
I don't know of course if it is safe or if it causes GABA downregulation...
a strange tinnitus I had never heard before.
So I drank a local herbal tea (it has not affected tinnitus) and I took 500mg taurine & 100mg magnesium glycinate.
After about 40-60mins my tinnitus went to 0 (checked with earmuffs in a silent room).
I don't know if this has to do with variation to my tinnitus or the supplements I get...
Definitely taurine potentiates benzos and give you a nice relaxing feeling.
I don't know of course if it is safe or if it causes GABA downregulation...
1MW
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- Nov 25, 2014
- 614
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008 but cured and relapsed from benzos
- Cause of Tinnitus
- ssnhl/benzos/unknown
1 hour after taking taurine 500mg it stopped my high frequency tinnitus again, if it exists, it is very mild (you hear it in quiet room).
Maybe taurine potentiates benzos.
But definitely has a calming effect and a rebound effect after wears off.
Maybe taurine potentiates benzos.
But definitely has a calming effect and a rebound effect after wears off.
- Feb 20, 2018
- 42
- Tinnitus Since
- forever
- Cause of Tinnitus
- wayward youth
Just started on taurine 48 hours ago. I think I am getting some reprieve? I am not mega dosing like some of you though. I may try ramping up to a higher dose and see what that does.
WebMD says 12 grams of taurine per day for hepatitis (click on dosing). So maybe high doses are okay.
The top rated taurine product on Amazon (4.8 stars) comes as a powder that dissolves in water so could take a high dose without swallowing lots of pills.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1024/taurine
https://smile.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Pure-Taurine-Powder-grams/dp/B00ENSLW5W
Over and over again I see web pages saying the human equivalent taurine dose of the mouse study is 700 mg to 3.2 mg. I cannot figure out what is the source of this "equivalence" and clearly it is not based on the relative weight of a mouse and a person.
Does anybody know if there is a solid source?
Here is one example of where it appears. The footnote leads back to the mouse study, which I believe does not include a human equivalent dose.
http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/6/The-Forgotten-Longevity-Benefits-of-Taurine/Page-01
"Taurine improves the hearing ability in animals exposed to drugs like the antibiotic gentamicin, which is notoriously toxic to hearing.54 And in a boon for the 17% of us troubled by chronic tinnitus (ringing in the ears), taurine may be helpful in quieting the noise.57 Animal studies using human equivalent doses of 700 mg to 3.2 grams per day of taurine over the course of several weeks demonstrate near-complete resolution of tinnitus with taurine supplementation (the animals had been trained in tasks that are sensitive to distraction by tinnitus).55"
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
That I couldn't tell you, but it is a very good question.
All I know is that at the low dose in the mouse study, there is a mention of tinnitus pitch increasing instead of decreasing...that is the reason I discontinued using it.
I was thinking of trying Taurine, since that's one thing I haven't tried yet. My tinnitus is spiking so bad today and I haven't a clue why. You know "what did I eat that's different" "what did I drink that was different" "what supplement did I take or not take"? I truly get to a point where I just don't want to try anymore, but when it's as bad as it is today, I get desperate and start looking online again.
One person swears by Taurine, and the next, it sucks, don't waste your money. Boy you can tell I'm a happy-camper today, LOL!!
One person swears by Taurine, and the next, it sucks, don't waste your money. Boy you can tell I'm a happy-camper today, LOL!!
SteveShield
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- Feb 11, 2019
- 44
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- HTN Rx, Migraine hx, Oil of Wintergreen induced?
Taurine is an NDMA antagonist, so if anything, it's more likely to reduce your tinnitus.
I have taken taurine will no increases in tinnitus levels. Also, in my experience, the supplements that do cause my tinnitus to temporarily increase, stop doing so with continued use (ginger for example). I wouldn't worry about non-ototoxic substances.
I've never tried pure Taurine but took a sleep supplement called Travacor that contained Taurine. It did nothing for my sleep or my tinnitus and cost a fortune.
SteveShield
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- Feb 11, 2019
- 44
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- 01/2019
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- HTN Rx, Migraine hx, Oil of Wintergreen induced?
Wolfears,
that is the study I read too... will try to stay away from it (magnesium tuaurate) and see what happens....
that is the study I read too... will try to stay away from it (magnesium tuaurate) and see what happens....
SteveShield
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- Feb 11, 2019
- 44
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- 01/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- HTN Rx, Migraine hx, Oil of Wintergreen induced?
To all the taurine posts here...
...2 months ago when I got tinnitus, I also started on high dose Magnesium Taurate (taurine), maybe a coincidence, maybe not.
Taurine can act as a stimulant or inhibitor to some neuro chemicals in the brain. If there is too much of this sulfur chemical/amino acid, it can possibly stimulate or inhibit that part of the brain causing the perfect environment for tinnitus to occur. Every one reacts different to even natural products!
As Wolears already posted from a study: "Three main effects were obtained with supplemental dietary taurine: (1) A significant, and reversible, tinnitus therapeutic effect was evident at the high dose level (4 mg/ml, or 294 mg/kg/da), but not the low dose level (1 mg/ml, or 67 mg/kg/da). (2) At the low dose, taurine may have exacerbated high-frequency components of the tinnitus. (3) Auditory discrimination performance was enhanced in normal-hearing rats in a dose-dependent manner".
We shall see, I am stopping this Magnesium Taurate as of yesterday, and I will keep you all posted...
...2 months ago when I got tinnitus, I also started on high dose Magnesium Taurate (taurine), maybe a coincidence, maybe not.
Taurine can act as a stimulant or inhibitor to some neuro chemicals in the brain. If there is too much of this sulfur chemical/amino acid, it can possibly stimulate or inhibit that part of the brain causing the perfect environment for tinnitus to occur. Every one reacts different to even natural products!
As Wolears already posted from a study: "Three main effects were obtained with supplemental dietary taurine: (1) A significant, and reversible, tinnitus therapeutic effect was evident at the high dose level (4 mg/ml, or 294 mg/kg/da), but not the low dose level (1 mg/ml, or 67 mg/kg/da). (2) At the low dose, taurine may have exacerbated high-frequency components of the tinnitus. (3) Auditory discrimination performance was enhanced in normal-hearing rats in a dose-dependent manner".
We shall see, I am stopping this Magnesium Taurate as of yesterday, and I will keep you all posted...
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SteveShield
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- Feb 11, 2019
- 44
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- HTN Rx, Migraine hx, Oil of Wintergreen induced?
Took low dose of Magnesium Taurate (taurine) 2 days ago, and my ear fullness and tinnitus spiked! Not good... so will not take this again.
Did you find regular Gaba harmful? I have been on it for a few weeks and I started getting some twitching. Going to wean off of it just in case but was wondering if Taurine was safer in your opinion as you mentioned being on a higher dose for awhile.
- Aug 21, 2014
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- 1999
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- karma
I've been trying Taurine for the past month. I happily report to you all that, for me, Taurine does appear to take some of the edge off tinnitus. In particular, the ear pressure sensation, the high frequency annoyance, and the good/bad days ratio.
I've tried many, many supplements, and so far it's the only supplement that appears to do anything positive. I was hesitant at first. I went through some of the threads regarding it here, and the results seem mixed. Some get better, some get worse, and some nothing. I'm convinced Taurine works to some degree for me. It doesn't totally alleviate it, but it does make it a little more tolerable.
Maybe for those of you who haven't tried it yet, give it a shot. I'm not particular to any brand, but FYI - I've been taking Bulk Supplements brand Taurine 1/2 teaspoon, 2-3 times daily. Maybe that's too much. I'll probably back off a little bit.
I've tried many, many supplements, and so far it's the only supplement that appears to do anything positive. I was hesitant at first. I went through some of the threads regarding it here, and the results seem mixed. Some get better, some get worse, and some nothing. I'm convinced Taurine works to some degree for me. It doesn't totally alleviate it, but it does make it a little more tolerable.
Maybe for those of you who haven't tried it yet, give it a shot. I'm not particular to any brand, but FYI - I've been taking Bulk Supplements brand Taurine 1/2 teaspoon, 2-3 times daily. Maybe that's too much. I'll probably back off a little bit.
Good it helps you.
What dose are you taking? As in milligrams?
Is your tinnitus perceived in your head?
I estimate I've been taking around 2,000-2,500 mg 2-3 times daily. When it's very loud I perceive my tinnitus almost like a barrier between the outside world, and my head, if that makes any sense. Other times yes, it's a dull ringing perceived in my head.
I encourage you who haven't tried Taurine yet to check it out! Don't dismiss it like I did. It may help you.
Thanks.
I did try Taurine 3g / day in 2014. I was also doing IV Glutathione and other things, so not sure if it helped or not. At the time, I thought it did.
Am I right in thinking that studies have shown only higher doses helpful in alleviating tinnitus?
This worries me in taking lower doses, that my tinnitus may spike.
Was the effect immediate or did it seem to help after being on it for a few days?
Do you plan on staying on it long term? I think I even did an amino acid study which showed a deficiency in Taurine.
I did try Taurine 3g / day in 2014. I was also doing IV Glutathione and other things, so not sure if it helped or not. At the time, I thought it did.
Am I right in thinking that studies have shown only higher doses helpful in alleviating tinnitus?
This worries me in taking lower doses, that my tinnitus may spike.
Was the effect immediate or did it seem to help after being on it for a few days?
Do you plan on staying on it long term? I think I even did an amino acid study which showed a deficiency in Taurine.
I wouldn't worry. You may already be getting Taurine in your diet somehow, not even being aware of it. It's very likely Taurine won't do anything at all one way or the other for you. Some here report taking relatively high dosages with no benefit to their tinnitus. But, there's a post here by a woman who swears a low Glutamate diet has helped her along with taking Taurine. Her post is what encouraged me to try Taurine after I had already written it off as bogus. So far she's been right. Taurine has helped me.
It's tough for me to say how immediate the effects are. My tinnitus fluctuates dramatically from day to day. On average though, the good days have become more frequent and the bad days aren't quite as bad. The feeling of pressure in my ears has reduced quite a bit. I have no plans to stop. I'll probably play with the dosage. I'm thinking lately I may try taking an even higher dose for a little bit. I've had zero side effects from it.
