Taurine and Tinnitus
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- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
abnormal amounts of of knowledge about esoteric aspects of drug culture is sort of my calling card. One of them, anyway...
- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
Nothing, because for me all that stuff just got in the way of the path towards feeling better. Everyone has to chart their own course through this, I think. At this point I'm not comfortable rattling off which GABAergics did or didn't temporarily reduce my tinnitus, because I think that stuff all set me back from healing.
After try 8 differents supplements, I got some improvement in my high-pitched idiopathic T with 2-3g of taurine everyday. My T was reduced 10-20% after the day 3. Not sure if it was because of the Taurine, but I think it deserves a try.
- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
I saw a rat study that seemed promising but I took pretty stupid doses for a month and it didn't do anything except make me poop a lot.
If you have T and you don't poop enough, maybe it's worth a shot.
If you have T and you don't poop enough, maybe it's worth a shot.
Hi there!
I'm Eduardo from Brazil, I have T for long time (but I habituating with it and having a relatively normal life), in my case I don't have significant hearing loss (Audiometry Test normal for my age), my T comes from excessive exposure to noise for a long time (Walkman Earphones, Rock N'roll band)
Unfortunately three weeks ago my T are LOUDER (much louder)
(I'm going through a great anxiety period, perhaps this is a trigger for T)I'm using Alprazolam (0.5mg / one dosage only, for sleep, one week ago), I wanted to try to use Taurine (I believe that will work very well for my case) , but now, I'M AFRAID!
You had improvements ?
some more news
folks
Thanks so much
Regards
Eduardo Neves - Brazil
Hi there!
I'm Eduardo from Brazil, I have T for long time (but I habituating with it and having a relatively normal life), in my case I don't have significant hearing loss (Audiometry Test normal for my age), my T comes from excessive exposure to noise for a long time (Walkman Earphones, Rock N'roll band)
Unfortunately three weeks ago my T are LOUDER (much louder)
I'm using Alprazolam (0.5mg / one dosage only, for sleep, one week ago), I wanted to try to use Taurine (I believe that will work very well for my case) , but now, I'M AFRAID!
You had improvements ?
some more news
folks
Thanks so much
Regards
Eduardo Neves - Brazil
Hi Eduardo,
It is difficult to advise you. We are all so different when it comes to meds/supplements - react in different ways. I do know when it comes to the brain, it is best not to mix too much stuff. Is there a doctor you can speak to about it?
Yes, my t went back to baseline. Stress and lack of sleep are indeed triggers. But usually once this is repaired, t can return to baseline. Wishing you the best.
- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
i've been taking obnoxiously irresponsible doses of taurine for a while; it seems to have a pretty radical effect on my acne. Wish I'd know that when I was 14...
Hi Lisa88
Thanks so much for your reply
I get a doctor consultation only for the day 15 May 2016
But I'll ask about it.
I have T +- 15 years, only 2 crisis in this period, now is the worst
My brain activity is very intense, and I'm a very anxious person.
Having permission from my doctor will try Taurine and post the results here.
Thnks so much folks
Hi Lisa88
Thanks so much for your reply
I get a doctor consultation only for the day 15 May 2016
But I'll ask about it.
I have T +- 15 years, only 2 crisis in this period, now is the worst
My brain activity is very intense, and I'm a very anxious person.
Having permission from my doctor will try Taurine and post the results here.
Thnks so much folks
That's good that you now know after your first crisis, t went back to baseline. So there is every chance that will happen again. Some of the best stuff I have tried in the sleep for me has been melatonin (natural supplement).
Hope this helps. But very good idea to talk to your doctor about it all.
Hi Lisa88
Thanks so much for your reply
I get a doctor consultation only for the day 15 May 2016
But I'll ask about it.
I have T +- 15 years, only 2 crisis in this period, now is the worst
My brain activity is very intense, and I'm a very anxious person.
Having permission from my doctor will try Taurine and post the results here.
Thnks so much folks
Sorry, just to add, try not to monitor your t. Keep yourself busy. Or say to yourself you just don't care, even if you don't mean it. Sounds strange, but training your brain away is possible, and it works. T fades into the background again.
- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
I'm up to 15-20 grams per day of this stuff. As far as I can tell there are no adverse effects. It seems to be doing good things for my skin.
There are only a handful of studies looking at doses that high in humans, so, certainly don't assume that my reaction or lack thereof is typical.
There are only a handful of studies looking at doses that high in humans, so, certainly don't assume that my reaction or lack thereof is typical.
- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
Hi Lisa88
I'm happy for your reply
Yes, I'm making it. I'm using Alprazolam (0.5mg afternoon) and 2 pill (3mg each) Melatonin for sleep. And I'd one week of sleep quality. 8 hour average, without side effects (I wake up 2 times per night, but I fall again in sleep very quick).
I do:
- I cut sugar (very important)
- I cut caffeine (only morning for wake up!)
- I'm doing walking in a Garden Park (here in my neighborhood 6am)
I'm still with a loud T, but is not 100% of the time, It's decreasing the noisy perception every day (time perception was decreasing).
Lisa, I want to ask u. Do you use Clonazepan? which mg?, everyday? 1 dosage per day?, I will ask my doctor the Taurine interactions with clonazepam and later post here.
Thank you so much for your attettion.
All the best for u and us
Eduardo
For add
Here some info about INCREASING GABA (good), and LOWERING GLUTAMATE (bad), in some cases (when anxiety triggers tinnitus) :
http://www.rlcure.com/glutamate2.html
http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/how-to-increase-gaba-and-balance-glutamate/
My apologies if this has been posted
Eduardo
Here some info about INCREASING GABA (good), and LOWERING GLUTAMATE (bad), in some cases (when anxiety triggers tinnitus) :
http://www.rlcure.com/glutamate2.html
http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/how-to-increase-gaba-and-balance-glutamate/
My apologies if this has been posted
Eduardo
Hi Lisa88
I'm happy for your reply
Yes, I'm making it. I'm using Alprazolam (0.5mg afternoon) and 2 pill (3mg each) Melatonin for sleep. And I'd one week of sleep quality. 8 hour average, without side effects (I wake up 2 times per night, but I fall again in sleep very quick).
I do:
- I cut sugar (very important)
- I cut caffeine (only morning for wake up!)
- I'm doing walking in a Garden Park (here in my neighborhood 6am)
I'm still with a loud T, but is not 100% of the time, It's decreasing the noisy perception every day (time perception was decreasing).
Lisa, I want to ask u. Do you use Clonazepan? which mg?, everyday? 1 dosage per day?, I will ask my doctor the Taurine interactions with clonazepam and later post here.
Thank you so much for your attettion.
All the best for u and us
Eduardo
I began using Ativan a few months after t started. Took me a long time to taper off. Probably should have used the more natural route, as benzo withdrawal can cause t to worsen.
But the trick is not to monitor it. Keep distracted. Go for walks, great. Look at posts in the Back to Silence thread in Success Stories on this forum.
Does anybody made similar experiences? I take antidepressants since a few years and now I started with taurine (1000mg twice a day) and now it seems to me my T gets louder, but not really sure. I'm now a bit afraid of continuing it.
Does it seem louder because of taurine or bc youre now monitoring it more closely?
Hi!
I came across this paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2997922/
In short: Taurine, a common amino acid in the human body, reduced or eliminated T in a small rat study.
Who tried supplementing with Taurine? It's rather cheap.
I Havent tried it myself (yet...)
Cheers
I came across this paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2997922/
In short: Taurine, a common amino acid in the human body, reduced or eliminated T in a small rat study.
Who tried supplementing with Taurine? It's rather cheap.
I Havent tried it myself (yet...)
Cheers
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
First time poster and just like everyone else, I'm also desperate to escape this sleep robbing, life destroying nightmare called tinnitus.
Its been almost 2 months for me and using process of elimination, the most likely cause of my T is acoustic trauma.
I feel that it is important to know the cause, because I feel that lot of T treatments that are floating around on the net are cause specific...for example Ginko Biloba will likely do nothing for someone who's T was caused by acoustic trauma, but might work if caused by poor circulation.
Anyway, back to my original point.
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of the Taurine study involving lab rats and I remember coming across some old threads but for some reason everyone seemed to miss one very important thing:
"Three main effects were obtained with supplemental dietary taurine: (1) A significant, and reversible, tinnitus therapeutic effect was evident at the high dose level (4 mg/ml, or 294 mg/kg/da), but not the low dose level (1 mg/ml, or 67 mg/kg/da). (2) At the low dose, taurine may have exacerbated high-frequency components of the tinnitus. (3) Auditory discrimination performance was enhanced in normal-hearing rats in a dose-dependent manner".
I'm not a scientist and sometimes these things are hard to read but if I'm not mistaking, Taurine at a low dose (the type of dose that was mainly discussed here) can actually make the T worse as far as the high frequencies are concerned?
Now if my rough calculations are correct, this would mean in order to achieve the same effect per kilogram, a 200lbs individual would have to down something like 27 grams of Taurine per day, in order to replicate this rat study.
Most therapeutic doses on most of the Taurine supplements out there are about 3 grams per day.
My question is, has anyone actually tried to replicate this study using the "per kilogram" formula indicated in the high dosage group, which was able to reverse the T in rats?
Its been almost 2 months for me and using process of elimination, the most likely cause of my T is acoustic trauma.
I feel that it is important to know the cause, because I feel that lot of T treatments that are floating around on the net are cause specific...for example Ginko Biloba will likely do nothing for someone who's T was caused by acoustic trauma, but might work if caused by poor circulation.
Anyway, back to my original point.
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of the Taurine study involving lab rats and I remember coming across some old threads but for some reason everyone seemed to miss one very important thing:
"Three main effects were obtained with supplemental dietary taurine: (1) A significant, and reversible, tinnitus therapeutic effect was evident at the high dose level (4 mg/ml, or 294 mg/kg/da), but not the low dose level (1 mg/ml, or 67 mg/kg/da). (2) At the low dose, taurine may have exacerbated high-frequency components of the tinnitus. (3) Auditory discrimination performance was enhanced in normal-hearing rats in a dose-dependent manner".
I'm not a scientist and sometimes these things are hard to read but if I'm not mistaking, Taurine at a low dose (the type of dose that was mainly discussed here) can actually make the T worse as far as the high frequencies are concerned?
Now if my rough calculations are correct, this would mean in order to achieve the same effect per kilogram, a 200lbs individual would have to down something like 27 grams of Taurine per day, in order to replicate this rat study.
Most therapeutic doses on most of the Taurine supplements out there are about 3 grams per day.
My question is, has anyone actually tried to replicate this study using the "per kilogram" formula indicated in the high dosage group, which was able to reverse the T in rats?
Bumping because I'm very interested myself. I have 1000mg taurine supplements right now and not sure how many to take a day.
