I am so surprised to see so many here that kiss Putin's ass. Maybe y'all should move to Russia if you love that country so much. Reading some of the Russian propaganda here is so annoying.
Should rename this thread to "United States Proxy War."
Let me correct you Mr. Scott. We should rename this thread to "Russian Invasion of Ukraine".
If you don't like it here in this country, you could move to Russia.
At the expense of 500,000 dead and injured Ukes.
Has Russia taken over Kyiv yet? Nope. They will have to murder every single Ukrainian for that to happen. Ukrainians will never give up until Russia leaves. Russia's military will collapse before that happens as long as we support Ukraine. Crimea will return to Ukraine one day.
There's no benefit for us withdrawing support for Ukraine. Russia is the same country that interferes in our elections. Russia must be weakened at the very least if Ukraine does lose but I have faith that Ukraine will win. It's not like we are drafting our own people to Ukraine as the Ukrainians themselves are doing the job just fine so I don't know why y'all are so against us sending weapons to Ukraine.
Yep, money laundering scheme for the MIC and the politicians.
How much is Putin paying you to say that?
This whole war could have been avoided if Biden (+ the West) had taken a reality check at the outset but sadly, he does not know how to play chess.
Russia cannot be trusted with any "peace agreement". I wonder why you are blaming Biden for this and not Putin. I think I may know why because I spent some time in England where you are from and I met so many with heavy anti-American bias. Some were so anti-American that they would support Russia. I saw you posted something on your profile about America's food safety having "very very very low standards". Let me guess, you are one of those people I met in England that thinks America needs to collapse because it's the worst country ever and how we are the source for all of the world's problems? Don't worry, you will grow and realize how much you need us, especially if Russia wins in Ukraine.
Don't forget about what y'all did to the Catholics in Northern Ireland because it was similar to what the Russians are doing to Ukrainians. Don't forget about the American citizens who funded the IRA. Your country is lucky to still have Northern Ireland because our government didn't help free Northern Ireland but at least we are leading the support for Ukraine's fight for freedom. Northern Ireland would have gained their freedom from British rule if we did the same thing and Ireland would be fully united. Maybe you just hate Biden because of his Irish roots. This year Biden told you you guys to maintain peace in Northern Ireland when he visited Ireland so I hope y'all are listening to his advice.
Hitler wanted world domination and declared war on the U.S. shortly after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor so there is no comparison to Hitler and Putin. Another difference is the millions of people killed in the German concentration camps. I think the American people want a secure southern border prioritized if we have to support a senseless war with no end in site, especially with our enormous federal deficit.
How about you stop defending Russia? Putin is a Hitler wannabe. I don't see any people of color in Russia. All I see are white people in his country. A white ethnostate is what Hitler dreamt of and I never see Putler taking in any immigrants in his country. And what makes you think he won't declare war on the U.S like Hitler did?
Imagine, Russia causes a Red Revolution in Mexico, starts pumping heavy weapons/missiles into Mexico while training the Mexican military in Russian War tactics and signs a strategic war alliance with them, sending Russian agents to Mexico. The missiles would be pointed at standby in you country's direction. Would your country just sit idle and watch? Really???
Have we invaded and stolen Mexico's land like Russia is doing in Ukraine yet? No. I don't believe we have any future plans for that either. If Russians ruled America, they would have taken all of Mexico and genocide the population to replace it with white people. We are way more benevolent than Russia.
I wonder why you defend Russia and look down on America? Do you hope Russia normalizes erasing the Ukrainian language to the international community? So your country, Canada, could get away without receiving criticism by doing the same thing in Quebec and erase the French language there?
Also, what you've listed sounds exactly what the US has been doing for half a century, for example in Vietnam, Guantanamo Bay, etc.
What do you have against Israel? They are our most loyal ally in the Middle East. Do you have an anti-Semitic bias? At least they can build a democracy unlike Palestinians and Russians.
It's Europeans who are losing here. We are paying crazy taxes just to maintain this nonsense of sending at least 20 billion euros per year to Ukraine, plus weapons, plus other "aid". On top of that Europeans are paying crazy prices for oil, gas and energy while the US is profiteering from the situation.
Europe is actually buying Russian oil and gas resold by third parties. It's the most stupid attitude ever.
I am sick of spending my whole life always paying for someone else's problem. My taxes are over 50%, and many people, like me, are thinking enough is enough.
People in Europe can no longer just work and be left alone. Politicians come to steal directly from our salaries to "fund" (and steal on) their latest nonsense.
How about have some patience and respect for the Ukrainians that are sacrificing their lives for you so you don't have to fight the Russians yourself. If Russia isn't stopped, they will take over the rest of Europe.
Looks like you have some anti-American bias because you spoke about how the US is benefitting the most from this war whilst conveniently ignoring what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Y'all in Europe can be so ungrateful like how you guys are not willing to acknowledge that we beat the Germans to save your asses in World War 2. You are lucky that you aren't speaking German today because of us.
Today we are the country that sends the most aid and weapons to Ukraine. You won't be speaking Russian in the future thanks to us. You're welcome. I have a feeling you are just jealous of our country and that you wish you could live here, hence your negativity towards us.
Ukraine was wrong to not have negotiations with Russia, and Biden has been against this, and peace talks, as welL
Out taxes are supporting it and Biden is going to keep this war going for as long as he is president.
I get that you support Drumpf but I'm sorry he's not becoming President again for your own good. A man that tries to overthrow our democracy deserves to be in jail. He also praised Putin and Xi Jinping on camera a few months ago. Him and Elon Musk are just assets to Russia. Both are traitors.
Both Russians and Ukrainians can be savages, there are no good guys in this conflict. But there is the issue of the western audience's ignorance of the history behind Ukraine as a nation, fueled by media propaganda (there is no war without propaganda, it is normal, unfortunately).
Ukraine as a state and many Ukrainians are revering certified Nazi murderers like Bandera as their founding fathers and heroes (Nazi because they pleaded allegiance to Hitler). It is very much of a problem. One needs just to look up the genocide of Polish and Jewish civilians in 1940s perpetrated by Ukrainian Insurgent Army (or UPA). Ukraine still denies or downplays their responsibility for it. Imagine Germany still being proud of Hitler and denying existence of concentration camps, or at least downplaying the numbers of victims or even justifying them.
Why are you bringing this up? Are you trying to dissuade people from supporting Ukraine? How about you realize Putin isn't that much different to Hitler in what he's doing. Ukraine isn't perfect but America isn't either. Our founding fathers owned slaves but we still ended slavery later and the blacks are now free, living good lives compared to other countries. We improve our country unlike Russians who can't improve and be civilized today with what they are supporting in Ukraine and in their own country.
Where were all you keyboard warriors when the US was "committing war crimes" all over the globe for many decades? Or is everything justified just because it fits the western agenda?
I admit we did some mistakes in the past but overall our positives outweigh the mistakes so I would say we have been a powerful force for good. The world would be more unstable and uncivilized if we never intervened.
Do you want to know how important it is for us to win this war in Ukraine? You sound uninformed and you would be changing your mind if you took this more seriously. I will explain it in a way that's easy for you to understand.
Many people are saying China and India will rule the world in the future and today they won't condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine. If you think we are bad, then imagine them. They have a bigger potential towards violence than us. They are just waiting for us to become weaker before they team up with Russia so they can start more wars and colonize other countries together.
I don't trust countries like Brazil either who created a "peace plan" that benefits Russia and they parrot Russian and Chinese propaganda. The EU not so long ago had a summit with Latin American countries and the Europeans were trying to rally support for Ukraine. According to an EU diplomat, the Latin Americans "deleted everything about Ukraine" and the same Latinos came back with a counter proposal demanding colonial reparations for slavery which is very weird because today the United States aren't asking for reparations for slavery from Britain. The Latinos also protested against Zelenskyy's invitation and they called Ukraine a "European problem" which is so funny coming from them. It looks like Russia is succeeding at promoting anti-Western propaganda among the Latino's. Here are the links about Latin America being tricked by Russian propaganda:
White House Says Brazilian Leader's Comments Parrot Russian, Chinese Propaganda
LEAK: Latin American countries push back on Ukraine, EU agenda ahead of joint summit
The Africans are turning more anti-West and their recent coups show this with their new pro-Russian governments wanting to welcome Putin into their country. I was surprised to speak to so many Africans online that support Russia and most are still crying about Western colonialism like little babies instead of trying to develop their countries. They support Russia because they are against the West. The Africans I spoke to sounded very emotional and want payback against the West for colonialism. They refuse to drop their bias no matter how hard I tried to convince them. They have problems with their listening skills, are unable to think critically and they have anger issues so I blocked them all. Indians are worse with their love for Russia. I thought Indians were smart.
China has made Saudi Arabia normalize relations with Iran who are allies with Russia. Saudi Arabia have just invited Syria back into the Arab League and Syria is the same country that supports Putin's invasion of Ukraine. It looks like the Islamic countries are preparing to unite and get revenge on us for our mistakes in the Middle East like the Iraq war. They will be backed by Russia and China. Do you want something like 9/11 to happen to us again?
A pro-Russia and anti-American party is predicted to win the election in Slovakia this month. In Germany a pro-Russian and anti-American party called the AFD has rapidly risen to be the second most popular party since Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Both of these parties vow to stop sending aid and weapons to Ukraine. We can't let Germany vote in a pro-Russian party as they are the biggest and most influential country in the EU. If the AFD wins in Germany, this could create a domino effect in Europe where pro-Russian and anti-American parties rule the continent. In France, Le Pen is already very popular and she has ties to Putin. She could actually win the next French election in 2027.
We are going to get colonized by the world if we don't stop Russia where their actions in Ukraine is emboldening a global anti-American movement. This is a very dangerous and uncivilized world that will try to destroy us. We will have to send more weapons to Ukraine if those pro-Russian parties win in Slovakia and Germany to make up for the losses in aid to Ukraine. Russia could collapse instantly if China was willing to cooperate with us against Russia but they will never do that so we need to do something about getting China under control along with Iran. European governments turning more Pro-Russian doesn't make our job easier.
If Ukraine wins, so does America and democracy. I question your loyalty here with how much you are against supporting Ukraine. I think you just want democracy to fall and you probably cheered for the January 6th insurrection. I wonder if you plan on moving back to Russia because you don't seem to be taking Putin's war against us very seriously. One day you are going to grow and regret all of this. Don't worry buddy, you will figure it out.