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Scientists and psychologists studied a group of people who use LOL at the end of their conversation. Two year study of the group showed 90 percent of those that use LOL is to hide their true pain. @aura brought this subject up so I did some looking on the subject.

This is the chit chat thread, correct?
 
"Not bad to look at!
Not bad - did you say ??
Steph is wonderful xx
Looks - Brains - Nice Boobs
(well she admitted that herself
- and I haven't forgotten.)
What more could a man want ???"

Come on man!
Smarten up for god sake!
What more could a man want? Hmmm, how about honesty, caring for each other, enjoyable lifestyle and a damn good evening meal.
 
Aww Dave. I can sympathise. <3

I'm not sure if you've read my post on here about my difficult childhood? Seems we have both had it pretty tough.

BUT we both have so much love to give, and know how to love... so really, we have gained so much more than we have lost. Though it doesn't always seem that way. :love:
Rough life, sickness bad health, damn tinnitus, childhood neglect. Well @Steph1710, I truly admire your strength and beauty. A young lady who just keeps on going. Perfect woman.
 
Aww Dave. I can sympathise. <3

I'm not sure if you've read my post on here about my difficult childhood? Seems we have both had it pretty tough.

BUT we both have so much love to give, and know how to love... so really, we have gained so much more than we have lost. Though it doesn't always seem that way. :love:
Can you direct me to your childhood post please Steph - I need to read it.

Thank you xx
 
I have had a very long and difficult life. I totally didn't deserve to end up with tinnitus and other ear problems. I thought I was owed a break. Fuuuck yoou world! :X3:

Long story short: my mum got with a pedophile, I was abused. I was homeless at 14. And that's not even the half of it.

BUT, as Elton once sang - "I'm still standing stronger than I did, feeling like a true survivor..."

:)
@Jazzer, here is the post. It doesn't go into much detail, but it's enough for people to understand. I don't talk about it much. And it's the only time I've ever mentioned it on Tinnitus Talk.

I know what it's like to feel utter rejection from the people who are supposed to look after you - i.e mothers. She always chose men over her own children.

X
 
Aww Dave. I can sympathise. <3

I'm not sure if you've read my post on here about my difficult childhood? Seems we have both had it pretty tough.

BUT we both have so much love to give, and know how to love... so really, we have gained so much more than we have lost. Though it doesn't always seem that way. :love:
I have just found your childhood reference Steph.

You are pretty amazing to have come through all that, and now to have to cope with this horrible condition.

What helps you to cope Steph? Do you meditate (out of interest)?

I'm always interested to know how other people manage. Maybe I can learn something.
 
I have just found your childhood reference Steph.

You are pretty amazing to have come through all that, and now to have to cope with this horrible condition.

What helps you to cope Steph? Do you meditate (out of interest)?

I'm always interested to know how other people manage. Maybe I can learn something.
I was just about to ask you the same thing, @Jazzer. You seem to be coping very well :)
 
I was just about to ask you the same thing, @Jazzer. You seem to be coping very well :)
As with many of us who suffered severe maternal deprivation (a total lack of bonding) I was able to develop no self-esteem during my childhood. My guilt was constant. I was guilty of drawing breath.

My primary message from my infancy was:

"There is no love. Don't even bother to go looking for it - there is none!"
That has remained a constant companion to me, and a feeling I have to confront every day.

Intellectually, I know myself to be a good, kind, loving person.

But on a primal level - I do not necessarily feel that.
Primary messages absorbed in the first few hours, days, weeks, months, years of life are so resistant to change.
"You can cry your heart out, scream til your lungs burst - I am not coming to pick you up," says a mentally disturbed mother.
This is the major cause of mental illness, depression, schizoid behaviour, alcoholism, narcissism, all addictions, violent behaviour issues. The damage done is indescribably appalling, and unbelievably painful for the unfortunate sufferers.

"The way to develop a better world, a better society, can only begin in the nursery - the primary messages are crucial." (Donald Winnicott.)

Add to this, severe tinnitus, Parkinson's disease, and now the loss of the one person who made me feel that my life is worthwhile.

Sylvie believed in me. I just adored her.
At a time of serious breakdown she used her amazing hypnotherapy skills to give me a treatment, that she simultaneously recorded onto my iPhone. (22 minutes of love.)
Her voice accompanies me when I take my daily walk.
She puts me to sleep every night when I go to bed.

You asked me how I cope Aura.
A combination of Sylvie's encouragement, my daily meditation, and a study of the teachings of one Eckhart Tolle.

Sorry to be so long winded. I didn't know how to cut it down.
 
That's a lot. How are you coping with Parkinson's? Is it still manageable?
Yes ajc.

I do a dozen 'sit and stand' exercises when I wake up,
I walk about 2 to 3 miles a day.
I still drive carefully and very well.
I just have to try to tackle it with the same degree of discipline as everything else that has come my way.
 
Rough life, sickness bad health, damn tinnitus, childhood neglect. Well @Steph1710, I truly admire your strength and beauty. A young lady who just keeps on going. Perfect woman.
@Elmer B Fuddled you brought a tear to my eye. What truly lovely words. It's having kind and supportive people like you in my life, that keeps me going.

If I could reach through this screen and give you a big hug, then I really would.

All my love,
Steph xx
 
Add to this, severe tinnitus, Parkinson's disease, and now the loss of the one person who made me feel that my life is worthwhile.
Dave, you're breaking my heart... this is so unbelievably sad. If I could go back in time to when you were little, and just squeeze you so tight and let you know that you are wanted, and you are loved, then I would. I need to invent a time machine!

The thought of you as a little boy, not receiving the nurturing you needed/deserved makes me so upset. The world can seem a cold cold place. My mum never hugged me. She used to tell me I was weird if I wanted a hug...

Getting ill on top of having a tough life is such a kick in the teeth. Seems like we have both had a bloody rough ride to say the least. BUT look how much love we have for others. Look how we enjoy the company of humans. Our hearts are bigger because of what we've been through. We could have turned out cold and unloving, but we didn't.

Jazzer - you're fricken amazing, and don't you ever forget that. Because let's face it, Sylvie was incredible, so you must be incredible too, otherwise she wouldn't have chosen to spend her life with you.

<3 xx
"There is no love. Don't even bother to go looking for it - there is none!"
That has remained a constant companion to me, and a feeling I have to confront every day.
Me too Dave. Me too. The feelings are still so raw. Rejection is possibly the worst thing a human can feel. Some days, I am crippled with the pain of feeling unwanted by my family - the one thing that's supposed to be there for you no matter what.
 
Dave, you're breaking my heart... this is so unbelievably sad. If I could go back in time to when you were little, and just squeeze you so tight and let you know that you are wanted, and you are loved, then I would. I need to invent a time machine!

The thought of you as a little boy, not receiving the nurturing you needed/deserved makes me so upset. The world can seem a cold cold place. My mum never hugged me. She used to tell me I was weird if I wanted a hug...

Getting ill on top of having a tough life is such a kick in the teeth. Seems like we have both had a bloody rough ride to say the least. BUT look how much love we have for others. Look how we enjoy the company of humans. Our hearts are bigger because of what we've been through. We could have turned out cold and unloving, but we didn't.

Jazzer - you're fricken amazing, and don't you ever forget that. Because let's face it, Sylvie was incredible, so you must be incredible too, otherwise she wouldn't have chosen to spend her life with you.

<3 xx

Me too Dave. Me too. The feelings are still so raw. Rejection is possibly the worst thing a human can feel. Some days, I am crippled with the pain of feeling unwanted by my family - the one thing that's supposed to be there for you no matter what.
Thank you Steph.

You understand because you have been there.
I am so sorry this happened to you too.
There can be no harder start in life than this.
Yet - somehow - we survived it - at times - if only just.

Thinking of you sister,
Dave xx
 
For Steph...x

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@Elmer B Fuddled you brought a tear to my eye. What truly lovely words. It's having kind and supportive people like you in my life, that keeps me going.

If I could reach through this screen and give you a big hug, then I really would.

All my love,
Steph xx
No need for the hug, I feel your warmth all the way across the pond. I admire you and @Jazzer for having the ability to bring out your past.

For me to do that, I don't think I could. As for my upbringing, it's way too much to bring out.
 
@Jazzer, here is the post. It doesn't go into much detail, but it's enough for people to understand. I don't talk about it much. And it's the only time I've ever mentioned it on Tinnitus Talk.

I know what it's like to feel utter rejection from the people who are supposed to look after you - i.e mothers. She always chose men over her own children.

X
That is appalling, Steph. Absolutely nobody deserves that kind of evil, and yet you are beaming in every photo. Don't ever let your tinnitus, or your past for that matter, drag you down.

My mom had a horrible childhood as well which still haunts her to this day. She tried to kill herself this year via an overdose, and she was very lucky to have survived. I can understand the remnants this shit can leave upon a person.

Both you and Dave have done well to somewhat come through the other side. I think it stays with you on some level, but it doesn't define who you are. Our lives become our stories, and as long as you have plenty of awesome times then it's mainly good stuff that you relive.

There's pain and suffering scattered all over this site. It's inescapable.
 
@Steph1710, what kind of sounds do you hear these days? And how loud?

Do you keep hearing new tones as time passes by, or just the old ones?

Do you also have hyperacusis?

How do you manage to sleep at night?

I know, lots of questions...
 
That is appalling, Steph. Absolutely nobody deserves that kind of evil, and yet you are beaming in every photo. Don't ever let your tinnitus, or your past for that matter, drag you down.

My mom had a horrible childhood as well which still haunts her to this day. She tried to kill herself this year via an overdose, and she was very lucky to have survived. I can understand the remnants this shit can leave upon a person.

Both you and Dave have done well to somewhat come through the other side. I think it stays with you on some level, but it doesn't define who you are. Our lives become our stories, and as long as you have plenty of awesome times then it's mainly good stuff that you relive.

There's pain and suffering scattered all over this site. It's inescapable.
Hi Ed - the main source of deep unhappiness is that abused and neglected children carry within them, often for a lifetime, a condemning voice, that never stops attacking their thoughts from within.

Freud's super ego, Tolle's pain body.
I cannot recommend Eckhart Tolle's videos, available on YouTube, highly enough.

He is a genius.

I wish your dear mum some deep peace Ed.
 
A special message for those of us who, through early neglect, still feel habitually unworthy:
I practiced Buddhism for a while. I attended the local Buddhist centre. I went for a few years actually, and read through the teachings and practiced meditation.

I first walked through the doors after a particularly nasty breakup. I was feeling incredibly lost and I needed some grounding if I were to ever get over it.

Buddhism taught me patience, self worth, and respect. I miss going. I have thought about rejoining for a long time.
 
what kind of sounds do you hear these days? And how loud?
@aura, hi sister! Don't worry about all the questions - ask away!

Right, now I have about 6/7 tones that I can make out. I also have pulsatile tinnitus thrown on top of all my "normal" tinnitus sounds.

The volume differs immensely from day-to-day. Sometimes, it is so loud, I hear it over the car, tv, and when I'm outside in a noisy environment like next to the sea crashing onto stones. Other days, it is so quiet, I have to check that I even still have it.
Do you keep hearing new tones as time passes by, or just the old ones?
Unfortunately, I have gained new tones. My latest one is a super sharp bird chirp sound, which always becomes louder during my period. This one is very difficult to mask.
Do you also have hyperacusis?
Yes. My ears are always sore and hot from everyday sounds. It recently worsened when my partner chinked two plates together. So both ears are very sensitive at the moment. :(
How do you manage to sleep at night?
I have always been extremely lucky with falling asleep. I'm always so tired by the time I go to bed, that I fall asleep as soon as I shut my eyes. Sometimes though, if the sound is driving me crazy, i used a fan sound app on my phone and keep it near my pillow.

I know it's impossible for some people to do, but I just get on with it. Obviously I wish more than anything that I could have silence back, but in the mean time, I have no choice but to carry on living with it.. so I just try and carry on as normal.

Hope that helps, and please ask as many questions as you need to.

<3
 
@aura, hi sister! Don't worry about all the questions - ask away!

Right, now I have about 6/7 tones that I can make out. I also have pulsatile tinnitus thrown on top of all my "normal" tinnitus sounds.

The volume differs immensely from day-to-day. Sometimes, it is so loud, I hear it over the car, tv, and when I'm outside in a noisy environment like next to the sea crashing onto stones. Other days, it is so quiet, I have to check that I even still have it.

Unfortunately, I have gained new tones. My latest one is a super sharp bird chirp sound, which always becomes louder during my period. This one is very difficult to mask.

Yes. My ears are always sore and hot from everyday sounds. It recently worsened when my partner chinked two plates together. So both ears are very sensitive at the moment. :(

I have always been extremely lucky with falling asleep. I'm always so tired by the time I go to bed, that I fall asleep as soon as I shut my eyes. Sometimes though, if the sound is driving me crazy, i used a fan sound app on my phone and keep it near my pillow.

I know it's impossible for some people to do, but I just get on with it. Obviously I wish more than anything that I could have silence back, but in the mean time, I have no choice but to carry on living with it.. so I just try and carry on as normal.

Hope that helps, and please ask as many questions as you need to.

<3
That's me all of what you said.
 
For those of you who like to know the 'inns and outs' of other people's business, this was my excitement this morning.

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Fortunately they didn't have to send in junior.
 

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