Suicidal

Hey bro. My ears been ringing for 3 years or more now... I wanted to kill myself for the first year. Now it honestly doesnt bother me.... some nights a bit. But I just turn the fan on. Tour mind is a powerful thing and over time you get used to it bud. I have a billion tips and tricks to deal with it in the mean time. Please hit me up
Everyone here with tinnitus has ringing ears or their head/brain. I think volume, pitch and number of tones are intangibles or factors that can impact ability to cope so without context, it doesn't mean much to say "it doesn't bother me."

Finally, it's all relative or subjective but I suggest a very high volume bothers most people. An extremely high pitch is also very intrusive so I bet that will bother lots of people.
 
Everyone here with tinnitus has ringing ears or their head/brain. I think volume, pitch and number of tones are intangibles or factors that can impact ability to cope so without context, it doesn't mean much to say "it doesn't bother me."

Finally, it's all relative or subjective but I suggest a very high volume bothers most people. An extremely high pitch is also very intrusive so I bet that will bother lots of people.
I feel bad energy from your post but I'll ignore that.... I have very intrusive very high pitch ringing 24 hours a day. But I realized there are many beautiful things in life and silence is just something I'll never have again. I came to terms with it. I accepted it. My brain focuses on other things. It's always loud and there but I can focus on other things and it doesn't bother me like it used to so please stop being a pessimist and weak minded and shitting on my positive post for someone suffering
 
By the way, there ARE medications that help cope with T better, but the thing is most of the people talking about suicide here don't even try them because they're too scared of addiction. Do you thing people facing terminal cancer care about addiction to medication ?
If you believe your T condition is that bad, then try to medicate so you can live better, no ? There are legal drugs, illegal drugs too. So many mollecules that you can try, because you know what ? You have TIME.
These medications can be the VERY THING that drives one to suicide. Whether it be an increase in tinnitus that may be permanent, an addition of hyperacusis which the sufferer didn't have before, or other symptoms that may be worse than tinnitus.

You see... medication is the very reason I'm here. I had minor anxiety and a bit of depersonalization. It was situational. I've been to psychologists before for a couple visits, but usually anxiety cleared up really quickly. This time I went to a neurologist out of curiosity, I wanted to have a brain scan. But she suggested a psychiatrist before the scan. I did an EEG and all turned out well.

I then was recommended a psychiatrist by a sexologist. This was what they were trained to do, to refer to a psychiatrist if something is out of their realm or abstract. By the way, now in hindsight I find it silly that a sexologist would refer me to SSRIs or similar medication because I had a high libido? I loved sex? SSRIs would've completely destroyed my sex drive, yes, but they might've permanently altered my libido in a negative manner in addition to other symptoms.

Anyways, with 2 doctor referrals I went to a psychiatrist. A very well known and highly rated, expensive psych. I got Pregabalin for anxiety and fears. I took it for a week and was instructed to raise my dose. Mind you, I've never had suicidal ideation or anything of the sorts before. I was a VERY ambitious individual, highly optimistic and extremely confident.

At this week mark I felt bad. Then within a few days my depersonalization WORSENED, anxiety and sudden paranoia (people trying to kill me or me them) and I started thinking about death. The point of why we're here, I turned really nihilistic. I didn't know what was going on.

Within a few more days I got tinnitus, my hearing worsened, my vision worsened (light sensitivity, floaters, visual snow, my eyes hurt), migraines, electric currents throughout my body and nerves, my sleep worsened with nightmares and I decided it was time... to taper off and end this medication. I went through the WORST withdrawal of my life. The acute phase lasted 2-3 weeks and I thought I was going to die.

Ever since then I've been plagued with suicidal ideation, intrusive thoughts (such as "you're gay" "you're going to become a terrorist" "kill your loved ones" "drive off a cliff" "jump from that balcony and die" while doing random tasks like showering or driving or bicycling), tinnitus, visual snow, insomnia, increased anxiety and dp/dr and more fun stuff. I've wasted thousands of dollars on various tests and treatments, I've seen every type of doctor you can name and I also found a group with 9,000 others like me. So my conclusion? It was the medicine. I didn't really need it, but I trusted the doctor was going to help me. I was wrong.

And that's just Pregabalin. After 3 months of suffering I thought it's time to take an SSRI to try and fix this after changing my diet, exercise, meditation, massages, etc. didn't affect my mood at ALL. Do you know what it did?

IT INCREASED MY NEGATIVE SYMPTOMS AND MY TINNITUS SPIKED to new levels. Again, I found thousands others with similar symptoms. I dropped Zoloft within 2 weeks and felt a bit better, back to my new "norm" fear state.

I'm not against medicine or drugs. I've been very pro-drugs my entire life. But now I stand nearly 9 months past dropping Pregabalin, and I have some sort of brain damage. There's so many stories of people changing 180 and becoming suicidal or commiting suicide because of their new mental AND physical symptoms. I haven't been able to work, nor study nor function like a normal person.

I believe psychiatric drugs help some in severe states, but for those who didn't necessarily need them... it can produce actual clinical depression, paranoia, psychosis and other fun stuff.

Do I want to die? No. I love my girlfriend, I have a good family, I have plenty of opportunities to make a lot of money, I could easily conquer many challenges as I used to... if I were just able to function. It's not just the tinnitus I have to deal with. But now I have so many physical symptoms that sometimes I'm in so much pain (where by the way, painkillers don't do anything for my migraines...) that I can't sleep or shower without crying or suffering from PAIN.

So even though I don't want to die.. I don't feel alive. I feel like I'm stuck in hell.

So don't go touting that drugs can fix those with suicidal thoughts. For some, it may worsen their condition. For some, it may improve but may cause new symptoms. I don't think anti-depressants are the option of choice. Benzos, SSRIs, TCAs, MAOIs, anti-convulsants and anti-psychotics can indeed bring someone with tinnitus closer to death by whatever horrible damage they can cause.

I've tried also the illegal substances too. Psilocybin, Ketamine, various rc's and supplements and soon MDMA... but to no avail so far. Do I think that for some they may work? Sure. But also for some playing around with psychedelics and similar compounds they may get into even more distress. I think for the normal population that has a bit of anxiety, psychedelics or MDMA or ketamine would do a lot more good than psychiatric drugs.

I deeply regret I didn't just choose MDMA or Ketamine instead of going to a doctor. When I was 16-17 and felt depressed and had a LOT of trauma, MDMA helped me and opened my eyes. I had a very good year at 18-19. All it took was to roll 3x. While with psychiatric drugs they force you to take higher and higher doses of something that just doesn't work. It changes you.

I'm no longer the person I was my entire life. And everyone around me agrees.

Not everyone can be helped. I'm just being realistic, at least at this point in time. For the future? We'll have better medicine and treatments. One day tinnitus will be cured and there will be better ways to fight depression. But for now, I'd be wary.
 
It's always loud and there but I can focus on other things and it doesnt bother me like it used to so please stop being a pessimist and weak minded and shitting on my positive post for someone suffering

How about you stop shitting on someones suffering and stop propagating the myth about those who are unable to habituate being "weak minded"?

His Tinnitus is different than yours, so is his genetic make-up, brain chemistry and personality.

Those are all big game changing factors.
You are trying to compare something, that cannot be compared.
That's just for starters.
 
I feel bad energy from your post but I'll ignore that.... I have very intrusive very high pitch ringing 24 hours a day. But I realized there are many beautiful things in life and silence is just something I'll never have again. I came to terms with it. I accepted it. My brain focuses on other things. It's always loud and there but I can focus on other things and it doesnt bother me like it used to so please stop being a pessimist and weak minded and shitting on my positive post for someone suffering
That person posted a while ago and didn't reply. I can't even find the original post. No one knows what your t is like but that poster sounded like he was suffering and you calling me 'weak minded ' is insulting. What insult do you have for him/her if his/her outlook is not to your standards?
 
How about you stop shitting on someones suffering and stop propagating the myth about those who are unable to habituate being "weak minded"?

His Tinnitus is different than yours, so is his genetic make-up, brain chemistry and personality.

Those are all big game changing factors.
You are trying to compare something, that cannot be compared.
That's just for starters.
Your ears just started ringing. You're still bothered by it. You wont be forever. I didnt compare anything. I stated things about myself.
 
Your ears just started ringing. You're still bothered by it. You wont be forever. I didnt compare anything. I stated things about myself.

Thats interesting, because I could have sworn that the post I read was calling others weak minded and pessimistic?
Maybe that was someone else.
 
Thats interesting, because I could have sworn that the post I read was calling others weak minded and pessimistic?
Maybe that was someone else.
Because he was indeed being pessimistic the weak minded I could have left out I suppose. But I've seen a few of your conversations on here and you are clearly at a bad point and have a negative mindset. I posted that to purely say I have very intrusive t, that gets louder all the time, but I realized I either come to terms with it and live a life of the highest quality I can, or kill myself. I chose the first one.
 
Your ears just started ringing. You're still bothered by it. You wont be forever.
I obviously hope this is true for @Harley but we can't know this for sure. Hope, support, and encouragement are important but so is realizing that tinnitus can be debilitating in itself and not everyone can live a normal life with it - and that's not just a matter of having the right attitude. However, if someone is clearly seeking support, we don't have to bring up that not everyone can habituate but we can encourage them without ignoring the severe side of tinnitus.

It's great that you can still live your life despite intrusive tinnitus but not everyone can. We shouldn't imply that tinnitus is just a matter of having the right mindset, though I'm not sure if you were implying that.
 
I obviously hope this is true for @Harley but we can't know this for sure. Hope, support, and encouragement are important but so is realizing that tinnitus can be debilitating in itself and not everyone can live a normal life with it. However, if someone is clearly seeking support, we don't have to bring up that not everyone can habituate but we can encourage them without ignoring the severe side of tinnitus.
See thays the difference. You're saying cant habituate. I promise you. You can. It might take YEARS but it will happen. I'm not saying you wont be bothered by it every single day for the rest of your life. But it wont bother you to the point of wanting to die. The first few months I cried in the shower daily. Loaded a gun and put it in my mouth. Swore I'd never be able to live like this. Promised myself if it didnt stop in 2 years I was going to kill myself. If I could tell myself back then that I would be "okay" I would have never believed it.
 
The ringing is torture. But the biggest battle is trying to control your anxiety and depression when under such torture. But it is possible. Obviously my quality of life is lower than a non sufferer but I find that I'm much happier when I dont compare my suffering to those who suffer less... it's all how you perceive it. Like anything in the universe.
 
See thays the difference. You're saying cant habituate. I promise you. You can. It might take YEARS but it will happen. I'm not saying you wont be bothered by it every single day for the rest of your life. But it wont bother you to the point of wanting to die. The first few months I cried in the shower daily. Loaded a gun and put it in my mouth. Swore I'd never be able to live like this. Promised myself if it didnt stop in 2 years I was going to kill myself. If I could tell myself back then that I would be "okay" I would have never believed it.
We'll have to disagree on that. I've had tinnitus for six years and have developed 4-5 new permanent tones so far. My tinnitus went from mild to severe within about three years and I went from having no hyperacusis to being unable to even whisper at some point. My brain also doesn't tune it out. I don't want to die but I'm very limited in my life due to this condition.

Millions of people can't even work due to chronic tinnitus anymore, they won't be able to resume their lives more normally until we find medical treatments for them. What they need is medical help, not just a change in their attitude or perspective because tinnitus can be debilitating in itself.
 
We'll have to disagree on that. I've had tinnitus for six years and have developed 4-5 new permanent tones so far. My tinnitus went from mild to severe within about three years and I went from having no hyperacusis to being unable to even whisper at some point. My brain also doesn't tune it out. I don't want to die but I'm very limited in my life due to this condition.

Millions of people can't even work due to chronic tinnitus anymore, they won't be able to resume their lives more normally until we find medical treatments for them. What they need is medical help, not just a change in their attitude or perspective. Tinnitus can be debilitating in itself.

Is it possible to get a pension or disability in Germany for hearing issues like tinnitus or hyperacusis?
 
I intend to end my life in the coming weeks. I promised myself that I would try to last for two years, but I can't do it. It is very loud now, and it will definitely get worse, not better. I have almost no hearing cells, and my hearing is getting worse. There is no hope for people like me, there is nothing to cheat on.
 
I intend to end my life in the coming weeks. I promised myself that I would try to last for two years, but I can't do it. It is very loud now, and it will definitely get worse, not better. I have almost no hearing cells, and my hearing is getting worse. There is no hope for people like me, there is nothing to cheat on.
Do you think you could give Neuromod/Lenire a chance? It's supposed to come out this year in Germany! Or is your hearing loss too severe for the device?
 
I intend to end my life in the coming weeks. I promised myself that I would try to last for two years, but I can't do it. It is very loud now, and it will definitely get worse, not better. I have almost no hearing cells, and my hearing is getting worse. There is no hope for people like me, there is nothing to cheat on.
How do you intend to end your life?
 
I agree medical help would be lovely. But were dumb monkies. We dont knownhowbthe inner ear or brain works. So the literal only option is a change of attitude and perspective... or the very permanent and sad option of suicide.
Another option would be to volunteer and push for medical treatments. Also, Neuromod, the University of Michigan and the University of Minnesota seem closer than ever to finding the very first medical treatments for chronic tinnitus. Neuromod launched their device Lenire three months ago in Dublin and will hopefully make it available in other countries soon.

Obviously, if someone with tinnitus can't find anything that helps to genuinely reduce their suffering the only thing they can do is to try to endure it. But changing their attitude and perspective won't necessarily allow them to overcome any limitation tinnitus might impose and not everyone will be able to live a normal life with tinnitus.

Suicide isn't the only other option. The other option is that you continue to suffer and hope for medical advancements, ideally try to advocate for the dire need for them, and try to do as much as you still can despite having tinnitus. Millions of people are unfortunately in that category, they're still alive but their lives have become incredibly limited due to this condition. At the end of the day, millions worldwide will continue to suffer, watching their life pass them by until we find actual treatments.
 
Because he was indeed being pessimistic the weak minded I could have left out I suppose. But I've seen a few of your conversations on here and you are clearly at a bad point and have a negative mindset. I posted that to purely say I have very intrusive t, that gets louder all the time, but I realized I either come to terms with it and live a life of the highest quality I can, or kill myself. I chose the first one.

You could have left out the whole last paragraph.
Either way do not assume, that your Tinnitus is anything like someone elses Tinnitus.
The whole "if I can do it, you can do it" simply does not apply here.
 
I intend to end my life in the coming weeks. I promised myself that I would try to last for two years, but I can't do it. It is very loud now, and it will definitely get worse, not better. I have almost no hearing cells, and my hearing is getting worse. There is no hope for people like me, there is nothing to cheat on.

If you have almost no hearing cells, you must have profound hearing loss. Is that the case?
If so, you are probably a good candidate for a cochlear implant, which has a reasonable chance at helping your T. There are clinical studies about it that you can read.

However, the tradeoff is that if you go down the CI path, it may prevent you from taking the regenerative route later on (there are companies working on this), but if you are about to cross the line, then CI is something you should look into.

Good luck!
 
If you have almost no hearing cells, you must have profound hearing loss. Is that the case?
If so, you are probably a good candidate for a cochlear implant, which has a reasonable chance at helping your T. There are clinical studies about it that you can read.

However, the tradeoff is that if you go down the CI path, it may prevent you from taking the regenerative route later on (there are companies working on this), but if you are about to cross the line, then CI is something you should look into.

Good luck!
Otoemission showed that in my left ear I have no hearing cells and in my right ear residual 1.5-3 kHz. I have a cavity but not deep. I have a hearing aid on my left ear because it started with my tinnitus.
 
Change what, decisions? No. You've had tinnitus for twenty years. Are you used to Not from what I see. I don't see anything wrong in suicide, everyone should have the right to when to end their life.
I was used to it up until October last year. I wish you well.
 
Can you disclose them? Maybe PM me. I was looking for a specific drug but from what I got, it's impossible to obtain.

Would one of you be able to share this info with me via PM as well?
It is always good to have different exit options, should Tinnitus reach the non- survivable level.
 
Can a very strong blow to the head against the wall damage hearing cells?

This type of hearing loss for you is termed inner ear concussion, commotion labyrinthitis, and otitis internal vasomotoria.

It appears that you underwent thorough physical exam, audiologic exam including pure tone audiometry (PTA) and speech audiometry. Also, temporal bone and brain computed tomography were proceeded to evaluate any accompanied skull fracture, intracranial bleeding or inner and middle ear injury.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3936518/

Give this a little more time.
 

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