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Tinnitus went down to an 8/10 from a 9/10 today. Bad again tonight. That isn't supposed to indicate an improvement but it is the first time it "calmed down " somewhat where I can tell a change. Although, it wasn't much. It probably doesn't mean anything.

My left ear has been in pain throughout the day. I can't distract myself when the pain is bad.

I just hate being like this and nothing anyone says makes me feel differently, sorry. I have a hard time wondering how anyone can have it this bad. :-(
 
I have a hard time wondering how anyone can have it this bad. :-(

I really hate it to break it to you, but I have it THAT BAD. I will not go into details, but I face some brutal obstacles caused by my beyond intrusive tinnitus and beyond horrible hearing loss. You are not the only one that has it bad. I face being alone with dogs that are sick and constantly being in the hospital. My tinnitus has robbed me of my social life to some point and I am naturally an outgoing person that loves people. I could have had so so much more success in my life if i just had better hearing. The tinnitus is horrible, but not being able to hear is much worst! Having to lip read when the devil screams at you is horrible!

I get asked so so many times why I am not married. Tinnitus has ripped me big time and I still wake up saying "WOW THIS S*** is so DAMN loud". Tinnitus has pinned me against some harsh elements and I HAVE to stand up to it. I HAVE NO CHOICES but to kick tinnitus in the @$$. Everyday requires strength to hear a screaming devil in my head. SO do know this, Although things are SUPER hard in my life, you DO NOT see my being negative on this forum. I come here to help people and care for them.

I don't enjoy these afflictions at all, but IT IS WHAT IT IS. I am thrown TONS of lemons, so you are DAMN right I will make and sell the best lemonades you ever tasted :)
 
I really hate it to break it to you, but I have it THAT BAD. I will not go into details, but I face some brutal obstacles caused by my beyond intrusive tinnitus and beyond horrible hearing loss. You are not the only one that has it bad. I face being alone with dogs that are sick and constantly being in the hospital. My tinnitus has robbed me of my social life to some point and I am naturally an outgoing person that loves people. I could have had so so much more success in my life if i just had better hearing. The tinnitus is horrible, but not being able to hear is much worst! Having to lip read when the devil screams at you is horrible!

I get asked so so many times why I am not married. Tinnitus has ripped me big time and I still wake up saying "WOW THIS S*** is so DAMN loud". Tinnitus has pinned me against some harsh elements and I HAVE to stand up to it. I HAVE NO CHOICES but to kick tinnitus in the @$$. Everyday requires strength to hear a screaming devil in my head. SO do know this, Although things are SUPER hard in my life, you DO NOT see my being negative on this forum. I come here to help people and care for them.

I don't enjoy these afflictions at all, but IT IS WHAT IT IS. I am thrown TONS of lemons, so you are DAMN right I will make and sell the best lemonades you ever tasted :)
You are made of much better stuff than I could ever be.
 
I wasn't going to reply but because someone claims their tinnitus is bad but they're not negative, that doesn't help me. It doesn't lower my tinnitus.

I know some members of the forum are cruel and get angry and malicious towards others that they feel are negative or not "coping as well" as them. I am requesting that they don't read this thread or participate here. I have already used the ignore function on such people.
 
Tinnitus went down to an 8/10 from a 9/10 today. Bad again tonight. That isn't supposed to indicate an improvement but it is the first time it "calmed down " somewhat where I can tell a change. Although, it wasn't much. It probably doesn't mean anything.

My left ear has been in pain throughout the day. I can't distract myself when the pain is bad.

I just hate being like this and nothing anyone says makes me feel differently, sorry. I have a hard time wondering how anyone can have it this bad. :-(
Hi PeteJ. I felt the need to give you some much needed words of encouragement. I know how you feel. Frankly, I'm in no position to help anyone as it feels like I'm really dangling above the abyss and the rope is about to snap. I'm currently in a dire situation, much like yourself. But I wanted to tell you that there's hope for tinnitus sufferers, for most of you. I guess that this post, in a way, is also directed at myself as I feel utterly hopeless and desperate for relief. Life can be horrendous; it can corner you and break you, take away everything and everyone you've ever loved... I never thought I'd have the "right" to say how hard life can be at the age of 24. I have loud tinnitus as well, which was just recently exacerbated by a severe neck injury. It is really tragic cause I've had chronic neck pain for years (it feels as if my neck is on fire for years), only to re injure it once more. Now it has a somatic element to it, which gives me such incredibly loud tinnitus spikes that at times it may feel as if my head is about to explode. But that's not even the worst part... The worst part is the ruthless, brutal chronic ear pain/hyperacusis. I cannot leave my home, hell I cannot even leave my own room! Even with earplugs and headphones permanently glued to my head, I can barely tolerate a shower of 2 minutes. Every move I make, I have to do in slow-mo so as to not make a wrong move and make too much sound. I haven't heard my own, or my mother's voice for months. I am completely dependent on my family to take care of me, as I can barely wipe my own ass without hurting myself. I'm scared to death and in pain every, single day. Not a day goes by that I don't question the meaning of all of this and how I can make this stop. Suicide comes to mind every, single day. I'm lonely and I long for death on a daily basis.

Still, I'm trying to make the best of it. Am I happy? No, not in the slightest. I'm not even sure whether I know what that means anymore. However, I do force myself to keep reading and learning everyday. I refuse to believe that everything I have ever done is and will be in vain. After all, we've come this far... It's not over until it's over.

There are various universities and pharmaceutical companies working on treatments for tinnitus, and I believe that they're closer than they have ever been. I've seen some really promising results and I have high hopes for FX-322, Lenire, Susan Shore's device, and many other upcoming treatments. Can't you see that there's more hope for tinnitus than ever before? Please hold on and don't give up. I know it is torture, but you can do this. I believe in you and you have to believe in your own strength.

Unlike potential treatments for tinnitus, there's far less hope for my horrid affliction. There are currently no clinical trials in progress for hyperacusis (apart from a sound limiting device) that might give me any sense of relief. I've tried everything for my hyperacusis, but unfortunately the options are very limited, if not non-existent. A proper treatment might be another 20 years away, taking into account the amount of time needed to conduct clinical trials. And yet... I refuse to give up. Everyday I will hope for the best and wish for a better tomorrow and it will only get better if we do everything within our power to make it better. I really hope you can do the same. It's not over until it's over!
 
Hi PeteJ. I felt the need to give you some much needed words of encouragement. I know how you feel. Frankly, I'm in no position to help anyone as it feels like I'm really dangling above the abyss and the rope is about to snap. I'm currently in a dire situation, much like yourself. But I wanted to tell you that there's hope for tinnitus sufferers, for most of you. I guess that this post, in a way, is also directed at myself as I feel utterly hopeless and desperate for relief. Life can be horrendous; it can corner you and break you, take away everything and everyone you've ever loved... I never thought I'd have the "right" to say how hard life can be at the age of 24. I have loud tinnitus as well, which was just recently exacerbated by a severe neck injury. It is really tragic cause I've had chronic neck pain for years (it feels as if my neck is on fire for years), only to re injure it once more. Now it has a somatic element to it, which gives me such incredibly loud tinnitus spikes that at times it may feel as if my head is about to explode. But that's not even the worst part... The worst part is the ruthless, brutal chronic ear pain/hyperacusis. I cannot leave my home, hell I cannot even leave my own room! Even with earplugs and headphones permanently glued to my head, I can barely tolerate a shower of 2 minutes. Every move I make, I have to do in slow-mo so as to not make a wrong move and make too much sound. I haven't heard my own, or my mother's voice for months. I am completely dependent on my family to take care of me, as I can barely wipe my own ass without hurting myself. I'm scared to death and in pain every, single day. Not a day goes by that I don't question the meaning of all of this and how I can make this stop. Suicide comes to mind every, single day. I'm lonely and I long for death on a daily basis.
@Daniel Lion mentioned a Dr in Florida that does a surgery for hyperacusis. Maybe he has more info. Idk if you've already looked into this.
 
Hi PeteJ. I felt the need to give you some much needed words of encouragement. I know how you feel. Frankly, I'm in no position to help anyone as it feels like I'm really dangling above the abyss and the rope is about to snap. I'm currently in a dire situation, much like yourself. But I wanted to tell you that there's hope for tinnitus sufferers, for most of you. I guess that this post, in a way, is also directed at myself as I feel utterly hopeless and desperate for relief. Life can be horrendous; it can corner you and break you, take away everything and everyone you've ever loved... I never thought I'd have the "right" to say how hard life can be at the age of 24. I have loud tinnitus as well, which was just recently exacerbated by a severe neck injury. It is really tragic cause I've had chronic neck pain for years (it feels as if my neck is on fire for years), only to re injure it once more. Now it has a somatic element to it, which gives me such incredibly loud tinnitus spikes that at times it may feel as if my head is about to explode. But that's not even the worst part... The worst part is the ruthless, brutal chronic ear pain/hyperacusis. I cannot leave my home, hell I cannot even leave my own room! Even with earplugs and headphones permanently glued to my head, I can barely tolerate a shower of 2 minutes. Every move I make, I have to do in slow-mo so as to not make a wrong move and make too much sound. I haven't heard my own, or my mother's voice for months. I am completely dependent on my family to take care of me, as I can barely wipe my own ass without hurting myself. I'm scared to death and in pain every, single day. Not a day goes by that I don't question the meaning of all of this and how I can make this stop. Suicide comes to mind every, single day. I'm lonely and I long for death on a daily basis.

Still, I'm trying to make the best of it. Am I happy? No, not in the slightest. I'm not even sure whether I know what that means anymore. However, I do force myself to keep reading and learning everyday. I refuse to believe that everything I have ever done is and will be in vain. After all, we've come this far... It's not over until it's over.

There are various universities and pharmaceutical companies working on treatments for tinnitus, and I believe that they're closer than they have ever been. I've seen some really promising results and I have high hopes for FX-322, Lenire, Susan Shore's device, and many other upcoming treatments. Can't you see that there's more hope for tinnitus than ever before? Please hold on and don't give up. I know it is torture, but you can do this. I believe in you and you have to believe in your own strength.

Unlike potential treatments for tinnitus, there's far less hope for my horrid affliction. There are currently no clinical trials in progress for hyperacusis (apart from a sound limiting device) that might give me any sense of relief. I've tried everything for my hyperacusis, but unfortunately the options are very limited, if not non-existent. A proper treatment might be another 20 years away, taking into account the amount of time needed to conduct clinical trials. And yet... I refuse to give up. Everyday I will hope for the best and wish for a better tomorrow and it will only get better if we do everything within our power to make it better. I really hope you can do the same. It's not over until it's over!
Don't ever lose hope my friend! I understand just how hard your ordeal is, I have lived it and still do. Tinnitus can pin us into a corner that is just horrible. It takes strength and lots of it to face it and move forward with our lives. It's all about making choices that will impact our lives and help us move forward. Don't lose that faith, the clouds can eventually lift. We will never know when, but they can lift.

If you ever need support, do reach out to me. I am here for all that suffer on this forum, all of us take a stand against this venom....all of us!
 
Yep. Going to try it soon :)
Wow... mind blowing...
Please keep us posted and start a thread. The doctor is very clever and a pioneering surgeon. Completely transparent, no B.S.

I take it you did the preliminary interview and questionnaire survey?
Was that done with the intern?

Regardless, please keep us posted and wishing you great luck... you deserve it...
 
I wasn't going to reply but because someone claims their tinnitus is bad but they're not negative, that doesn't help me. It doesn't lower my tinnitus.

I know some members of the forum are cruel and get angry and malicious towards others that they feel are negative or not "coping as well" as them. I am requesting that they don't read this thread or participate here. I have already used the ignore function on such people.
I hear you PeteJ.
Stay strong, you got your support team here... we are not going anywhere buddy.
Like Carlos1 said, he's a fellow Bostonian... "stay strong"
One day at a time, step by step.
Keep well.
 
Wow... mind blowing...
Please keep us posted and start a thread. The doctor is very clever and a pioneering surgeon. Completely transparent, no B.S.

I take it you did the preliminary interview and questionnaire survey?
Was that done with the intern?

Regardless, please keep us posted and wishing you great luck... you deserve it...

I'll be doing it in my own country, though that may take a while due to many circumstances. It is not scheduled yet. Thanks :)
 
I'll be doing it in my own country, though that may take a while due to many circumstances. It is not scheduled yet. Thanks :)
The Dutch really have their act together for hearing related stuff for such a small nation... well not that small, but I am always impressed by the amount of research and quality medicine coming out of the Netherlands.

I had no idea they even did this operation there... I am impressed. Who knows, you may gather some progress recovering and not need the operation. Good luck Labyrinthine... stay strong and well.
 
This is really weird but I just unlocked my phone, opened my net browser and on it was a post by Danny Boy called 'The Noise that Kills'.

I have no idea how my phone has navigated it's way to that thread. Last post was in 2014.
 
This is really weird but I just unlocked my phone, opened my net browser and on it was a post by Danny Boy called 'The Noise that Kills'.

I have no idea how my phone has navigated it's way to that thread. Last post was in 2014.
Weird...

Just saying hi Allen, I know it's tough... I am just trying my best right now... in pain... but putting up with it the best I can.

You mentioned "glue ear" , can the doctors help you with that.

I live in the third world, it's a long story. There are advantages and disadvantages of course. 1 nice thing I wish I could share with you is the local herbal steam baths. An old lady, they are every
where, near me built a steam bath in her garden and she puts on leaves with good smells. I go in and sweat and chill. It helps me as an ex smoker as well.
It would be nice if there was a gym or somewhere you could so something like that... but I know the UK is expensive. I lived there for 10 years, and was absolutely skint the entire time, but pretty darn happy. Pre-Tinnitus years.

I do hope you are hanging in and hope you are trying to get some exercise in if you can...

Let me know what happens with your ear... I sympathize. I got a cold the first time in ages two weeks ago, and lost all hearing in my right ear... I started to freak out, but my eldest son, Noah, calmed me down and actually said my E tube was blocked and ride it out. I listened to him, it took 2 weeks to resolve, now back to my 24 hour constant high pitched eeeeee.
Stay in touch.
 
Do you guys use ear plugs? I wanted to buy custom plugs a month ago but cancelled an appointment. Now, my tinnitus is worse. I now think it would be hell to wear any for any length of time because of isolating the tinnitus tones/noise.

So, to protect my hearing, I have to torment myself in this way? So, I should just "hold on" and torture myself until some fantasy treatment comes along or lock myself in my place or what?

I carry around muffs just in case but it's the same thing.
 
I'm in the similar situation. Maybe you could try experimenting with ear plugs that do not block too much sound? Some ear plugs block only about 10 decibels, so maybe you could tolerate wearing those better?

Maybe try listening to some silent white noise on ear-phones, while wearing ear muffs that will block out external sounds? I don't know, how about noise cancelling headphones or ear phones.
 
@Daniel Lion, @fishbone, @Labyrinthine,
You guys shouldn't have to go through that torture and especially you young guys.

Whenever I get angry about lack of concern, care and support for this condition, people insult me, no matter where I do it. It's crazy.

When tinnitus changes from "only hear it in a quiet room" to more severe, it's torture and the suffering goes unnoticed and is not understood. People with it are ignored.

It's a unique condition that it is invisible and the only state or condition that I can think of which is somewhat similar in nature is when you have chronic pain but no visible physical handicap.
 
It's a unique condition that it is invisible and the only state or condition that I can think of which is somewhat similar in nature is when you have chronic pain but no visible physical handicap.
That's absolutely true. People can't and won't understand. We can't expect them to. I bet you didn't know much about this affliction before you got it. I know I didn't.

like probably no one here gave people with cluster headaches a thought today. I have a friend who has it, it's not the same as tinnitus but brutal nevertheless.

I think it's futile to be angry about others lack of compassion. We're better off channeling our energy into dealing with this on a day to day basis. Which as you know, is never easy. But sometimes during the day it's just that little less hard. In the beginning of learning to deal with it ,we need more of these moments. Try to make time for them, to create them artificially if you must. Whatever that means for you (cooking, exercising, reading with some masking noise, chores) try to accomplish some things every day, however small they may be. They will make you feel better about yourself. In the long run, your tinnitus may start to get less important. Not quieter, but you can hear it for what it is. A sound of no importance that happens to be there all the time. It may still make you angry and that's ok. Let it be. You say yours sounds like cicadas. When you heard cicadas outside before you had tinnitus, we're they at the center of your attention all the time? We're you listening to them all the time? You could still get on with whatever you were doing, I reckon. I see this with my kids. In summer the crickets are out, but they don't even notice it. They don't mention it ever. It doesn't make them sad or keep them from playing. That's when I realised I'm partly doing this to myself, too. I believe that herein lies the key to improvement. Now tinnitus is all you can think of but once you break the negative thought spiral, you will start to feel better and notice it less. But you've got to set it up carefully. By trying to do the things you like. This may mean you'll have to find new things to like that accompany your life with tinnitus. Say if your hobby was motorcross, better find something quieter. But it's possible. You'll get there PeteJ but you need time. As do we all.

I hope I don't come across as some habituation pusher, but there's some truth in it. Sure, a cure would be nice but there isn't one yet, so it's what we have for now.
 
I hope I don't come across as some habituation pusher, but there's some truth in it. Sure, a cure would be nice but there isn't one yet, so it's what we have for now.

Bartoli, you most certainly did not come across as a habituation pusher, not in the least. You came across as a caring person, one who knows this tinnitus bully only too well. :huganimation:
 
I hope I don't come across as some habituation pusher, but there's some truth in it. Sure, a cure would be nice but there isn't one yet, so it's what we have for now.

It's not even about pushing habituation, it's pushing for what actions we can take today, to make our lives a little easier to live. I tried every known supplement in the early years with my tinnitus. I had such hopes that I'd hear silence again and It never happened. I was crushed and it did send my life into negativity and spirals.

I was a fragile soul like most of you good people, it was just horrible to hear some odd ringing in my head. I told myself that hey, right now there is no cure, do what you can to live your life. It's a very slow process, it takes lots of energy, lots of strength, lots of self talking (in a positive way), lots of talking to others that love and care for you. It take LOTS of everything to get the ship moving forward again.

It's a slow process, it's a planned process, it's a process of progression. As I always say in my posts, come up with a game plan and slowly get at it, there are no overnight successes but if we keep taking some action things can eventually make sense.....
 
It's not even about pushing habituation, it's pushing for what actions we can take today, to make our lives a little easier to live.
Fully agree. I don't like the word habituation because of the association to TRT which I feel has been counterproductive in the quest for a cure. But habituation in the strict sense of the word, as in : "I'm so focused on something else that I didn't hear it" is a revelation when it first happens. Still coming to terms with my new tinnitus, but back when I had mild/moderate tinnitus some 10 years ago, the tone in the tinnitus community was different. After Neuromonics didn't live up to the hype I stopped browsing about tinnitus.

In fact, when I found myself back on the forums this year I noticed the mindset had changed so much. Now we actually dare to speak our minds that we hope for a cure, nothing less.
 
Weird...

Just saying hi Allen, I know it's tough... I am just trying my best right now... in pain... but putting up with it the best I can.

You mentioned "glue ear" , can the doctors help you with that.

I live in the third world, it's a long story. There are advantages and disadvantages of course. 1 nice thing I wish I could share with you is the local herbal steam baths. An old lady, they are every
where, near me built a steam bath in her garden and she puts on leaves with good smells. I go in and sweat and chill. It helps me as an ex smoker as well.
It would be nice if there was a gym or somewhere you could so something like that... but I know the UK is expensive. I lived there for 10 years, and was absolutely skint the entire time, but pretty darn happy. Pre-Tinnitus years.

I do hope you are hanging in and hope you are trying to get some exercise in if you can...

Let me know what happens with your ear... I sympathize. I got a cold the first time in ages two weeks ago, and lost all hearing in my right ear... I started to freak out, but my eldest son, Noah, calmed me down and actually said my E tube was blocked and ride it out. I listened to him, it took 2 weeks to resolve, now back to my 24 hour constant high pitched eeeeee.
Stay in touch.
It's just time Daniel... I'm not sure what's going on... I've had lime green sticky stuff, just little, come out of my right ear. I suspect there might be a small perforation. Those steam baths sound great.

Hope you are well good sir.
 
I don't like the word habituation

Hi @Bartoli -- I don't much care for the word either. I tend to think more in terms of reaching some kind of "accommodation" with tinnitus. And doing what it takes to achieve that accommodation seems to change from day to day, even quite often moment to moment. Habituation seems to imply "accepting our fate", whereas accommodation--for me--has more more of a connotation of beginning to (creatively) effectively control various aspects of having and dealing with tinnitus.
 
Habituation seems to imply "accepting our fate"

Habituation simply means: It's a low or lack of response to the ringing. The ringing is not a huge SHOCK to our system like it use to be. In all honesty tinnitus has not set a fate for me. It has it's challenges,but I am pushing as much against them as possible....
 

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