2020 US Presidential Election

[PeteJ]

Because no one cares about private property statues. People don't want their tax dollars going to them. As far as your article, be rest assured that that's not constitutional.

And by your attitude, I mean ur obscene disregard for others in this thread. This is a thread for civil discourse, there is no place for personal insults and nasty behavior and you've been talked to about this before. I don't understand why you can't be cordial in this thread.

I posted about liberals demanding private property owners to remove Confederate flags and they even requested government authorities to see if they could get it removed. That's one instance but probably not the only one.
There's not even one regarding the Lenin statue. FGG arrogantly said it was "apples and oranges" and only right wing people made the distinction. Perhaps, it's because such a large group of liberals are too stupid to recognize it.

 

[FGG]

Certainly I'm not going to sit here and pretend like tinnitus research is some mission of the left. I think of it more like the issues surrounding disability. Liberals support greater social safety nets, which is very important for people who are chronically ill.

I know we like to bash the way tinnitus research (or lack thereof) is conducted, but it's true that some of the reason we don't have a cure is because the problem is so difficult. There are plenty of diseases that are correctly discussed, funded, and still don't have cures. Social safety nets matter.

You mentioned Obama. Obama didn't do anything for tinnitus research, but he did allow young people to stay on their parents' insurance until 26. I've been chronically ill since I was 24; this kind of stuff matters.

By the way, the ironic part is that you are upset that people are misrepresenting your views. I'm not even a leftist -- far from it actually. I'm somewhere between Biden and Sanders on most issues.

On policing and law and order, I'm center right. Fully support dreamers, but otherwise moderate on immigration. I think police should be funded more, not less. The way I see the problem is that policing needs to become a more desirable, but elite job. Make it a more desirable job, increase the supply, and then set high bars for maintaining status; significantly more training as well. The left has the correct spirit in wanting better policing, but they take for granted that cops just show up and risk their lives. It rubs me the wrong way. I want good people to become cops, and the left wing approach doesn't make anyone want the job. Of course, abolishing police is just lunacy. It's also lunacy is that if someone (of any race) resists arrest and tries to assault the officer, the officer is in the wrong for protecting themselves. Like I said, being a cop is a hard and risky job.

For the statues, I have mixed feelings. For the highly controversial figures -- like Jackson and Robert E. Lee -- I don't give a rip if someone tears them down. I don't support tearing down the founding fathers because I think they provide historical perspective. We can't just pretend that history doesn't exist. It won't work.

It may seem like I'm a hardcore leftist because I think Trump is the devil, which he is. If the republican party had real standards, and weren't just a bunch of privileged white guys who never looked in the mirror, my values would be a mix of center left and center right on most issues. Far left on economic justice and social safety nets. Far left on gun control and climate change. Center left on education.

I like this post. Political views are like fingerprints and if people would civilly engage more they would understand each other better.

I'm an (overall) leftist who thinks the second amendment is important and worth defending. We are all different.

 

[PeteJ]

Certainly I'm not going to sit here and pretend like tinnitus research is some mission of the left. I think of it more like the issues surrounding disability. Liberals support greater social safety nets, which is very important for people who are chronically ill.

I know we like to bash the way tinnitus research (or lack thereof) is conducted, but it's true that some of the reason we don't have a cure is because the problem is so difficult. There are plenty of diseases that are correctly discussed, funded, and still don't have cures. Social safety nets matter.

You mentioned Obama. Obama didn't do anything for tinnitus research, but he did allow young people to stay on their parents' insurance until 26. I've been chronically ill since I was 24; this kind of stuff matters.

By the way, the ironic part is that you are upset that people are misrepresenting your views. I'm not even a leftist -- far from it actually. I'm somewhere between Biden and Sanders on most issues.

On policing and law and order, I'm center right. Fully support dreamers, but otherwise moderate on immigration. I think police should be funded more, not less. The way I see the problem is that policing needs to become a more desirable, but elite job. Make it a more desirable job, increase the supply, and then set high bars for maintaining status; significantly more training as well. The left has the correct spirit in wanting better policing, but they take for granted that cops just show up and risk their lives. It rubs me the wrong way. I want good people to become cops, and the left wing approach doesn't make anyone want the job. Of course, abolishing police is just lunacy. It's also lunacy is that if someone (of any race) resists arrest and tries to assault the officer, the officer is in the wrong for protecting themselves. Like I said, being a cop is a hard and risky job.

For the statues, I have mixed feelings. For the highly controversial figures -- like Jackson and Robert E. Lee -- I don't give a rip if someone tears them down. I don't support tearing down the founding fathers because I think they provide historical perspective. We can't just pretend that history doesn't exist. It won't work.

It may seem like I'm a hardcore leftist because I think Trump is the devil, which he is. If the republican party had real standards, and weren't just a bunch of privileged white guys who never looked in the mirror, my values would be a mix of center left and center right on most issues. Far left on economic justice and social safety nets. Far left on gun control and climate change. Center left on education.

Yeah, the Left supports safety nets but not for you. Certainly, not for me. I am just tired of the constant lies from left wing people. At least, non-liberals are blunt and honest even if you don't like their politics. I posted early on, I was not a Trump supporter and I believe he's just another politician who is a Puppet President but some here still accused me of being a "Trump fan." I can't get through to anyone here. You won't accept a different perspective except for those close enough to your narrative.

I am calling out an agenda that I perceive is harmful, hostile and hypocritical which liberals support. Either way, supporting it won't help improve tinnitus research. It won't improve the healthcare system in general. I am in the wrong demographics so I am nothing to those people. I can't be cordial about that. I believe it will only get worse. Worse in general and tinnitus research and support will get worse. Leftists are hypocrites and evil. I perceive an agenda of giving them more power to oppress others who don't capitulate to them. I feel alone already and that exacerbates that further.

 

[PeteJ]

Btw, I am against removing the statues for TWO reasons.

1) they are part of history. If you hate them that much, write whatever you want about them. Put up plaques that you don't like them. I don't care.

2) I am against for a 2nd reason because I see it as part of a bigger agenda. It's part of a Marxist anti-white agenda for more authoritarian measures. It's also a larger part of an anti-white agenda. If you question it, you are called a white supremacist. I see this censorship and hostile intimidation. Especially online. More division is being created. I will be dead but eventually it will be much worse. What we see today is nothing. This programme and agenda of intimidation and cancel culture is also seen with questioning COVID-19. Only one narrative is accepted and tolerated. I think these are scary times for people who don't subscribe to the leftist indoctrination camps.

 

[Born To Slay]

I posted about liberals demanding private property owners to remove Confederate flags and they even requested government authorities to see if they could get it removed. That's one instance but probably not the only one.
There's not even one regarding the Lenin statue. FGG arrogantly said it was "apples and oranges" and only right wing people made the distinction. Perhaps, it's because such a large group of liberals are too stupid to recognize it.

You said I was the same as a bunch of hypocrites when I never even said if I agreed with the individuals you were talking about.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

I think the problem goes back much further than the sixties--or at least Mark Twain thought so...

I believe that special interest and greed goes back before the Roman Empire, but computer high speed trading has taken things to a new dishonest level.

The news media and hedge fund managers are kissing cousins. I don't support either party or any corporate system as I value human life over greed.

Most hedge mangers and retirement account managers and most of their clients including retirement account investment holders are now liberals. Before the high tech revolution, more conservatives owned long term positions in stocks.

 

[Watasha]

In my view the American people are either going to have to accept one of the two premises:

A. Cuts to doctors and hospitals, assembly line healthcare and rationing care

Or

B. Severe cuts to the healthcare social safety net or massive tax hikes

I don't think we need to accept either one of these premises, though they are both the path of least resistance in the short-term. President Trump passed an executive order on healthcare pricing transparency. I think if you combine this with a form of HSA for low income Americans you can see changes in the cost curve pretty quickly.

 

[Watasha]

Republicans fixated on Obamacare as if it was an imminent existential threat to the republic (remember "death panels"???). When it passed, they then tried to repeal it over and over and over and over again. In a functioning democracy you concede when you lose and move on but it completely took over the legislature's business, grinding everything else to a halt.

Because it was designed as a "historic" giveaway to the rich.

Trickle-down economics has done nothing to lift all boats. The only success the Republicans can claim is to have brainwashed red states otherwise while the rich get richer and the poor, poorer.

In a functioning democracy you concede? By concede do you mean like how the democrat party establishment conceded the 2016 election by undermining/protesting/discussing impeachment from the very beginning, etc. the Trump Administration ad nauseum from the day he won the election? Please...

So your logic here is LIBERALISM GOOD/CONSERVATISM BAD. Liberals have reasonable justifications for their actions and are immune to outside influences, perfect saints to run your government, conservatives are bought and paid for con-artists, their actions are only explained by greed/power/and undue influence....

Get our of here dude. I know people like you and you are a waste of time to discuss politics with. I implored you in the past to stick actual matters of policy, instead your message is liberals can do no wrong and conservatives are the spawn of the underworld.

Bottom line is I just body-slammed your notion that progressivism has not advanced over the last 100 years and it had votes on the right in the process, but you don't want to address that, you'd rather do the he said/she said dance on the periphery. Quit wasting my time.

 

[FGG]

I posted about liberals demanding private property owners to remove Confederate flags and they evn requested government authorities to see if they could get it removed. That's one instance but probably not the only one.
There's not even one regarding the Lenin statue. FGG arrogantly said it was "apples and oranges" and only right wing people made the distinction. Perhaps, it's because such a large group of liberals are too stupid to recognize it.

How is it arrogant to point out that statues on private property and government property are not equivalent scenarios? Did the phrasing "apples and oranges" set you off for some reason?

You are bordering on "how dare anyone have a different viewpoint than me territory" and this is entirely why I don't want to engage with you.

 

[Born To Slay]

I don't think we need to accept either one of these premises, though they are both the path of least resistance in the short-term. President Trump passed an executive order on healthcare pricing transparency. I think if you combine this with a form of HSA for low income Americans you can see changes in the cost curve pretty quickly.

With price transparency, the cost of care will go down. Which means someone has to make less money.

 

[Zugzug]

2) I am against for a 2nd reason because I see it as part of a bigger agenda. It's part of a Marxist anti-white agenda for more authoritarian measures. It's also a larger part of an anti-white agenda. If you question it, you are called a white supremacist. I see this censorship and hostile intimidation. Especially online. More division is being created. I will be dead but eventually it will be much worse. What we see today is nothing. This programme and agenda of intimidation and cancel culture is also seen with questioning COVID-19. Only one narrative is accepted and tolerated. I think these are scary times for people who don't subscribe to the leftist indoctrination camps.

Are you really surprised people assume you are a right winger? That paragraph screams right wing indoctrination as well. You sound more like a right winger than most people who vote for Trump. You fear authoritarianism, and yet completely ignore that the actual president is an authoritarian. Like I honestly wonder if you're a Trump supporter and don't realize it.

At least, non-liberals are blunt and honest even if you don't like their politics.

So you see Donald Trump as someone who respectfully "agrees to disagree" with people and is the face of honesty?

The reason why you get accused of being a Trump supporter is because you spit out tons of right wing conspiracy talking points, have super soft criticism of right wingers, and fear things that right wingers are more guilty of.

 

[Watasha]

With price transparency, the cost of care will go down. Which means someone has to make less money.

If that's what you mean by "cuts to doctors/hospitals" then sure, but making less money is a good thing if it is trimming the fat and re-allocating resources within the healthcare system. I am willing to bet those making less money will be largely administrative costs and not those involved in true costs of care.

 

[GlennS]

In a functioning democracy you concede?

In a functional democracy you acknowledge that there are two sides to any policy decision. Simply ramming things down like a dictator without giving an inch leads to the climate of division we have today.

But it's even worse than that because Trump obstructs justice to protect himself, like his recent move against the US attorney. That kind of behavior got Nixon to resign but now the GOP is so brazen and tribal they just knee-jerk circle the wagons around him. Party first, constitutional law second.

It's one thing to support Trump's policies. I can agree to disagree on that...but it's the tactics that are even more dangerous.

By concede do you mean like how the democrat party establishment conceded the 2016 election by undermining/protesting/discussing impeachment

Last I checked, Trump was legitimately impeached and Bolton only reinforced the case against him. So blame Trump, not the Democrats. This whole persecution/martyr complex on Trump's part is just a smokescreen. He gets into so much trouble because of his own actions, not a vendetta against him on the part of the Democrats. For instance, just recently his statement that we should slow COVID testing down, forcing him to retcon himself by calling it a "joke" (like a pandemic is worthy of a joke in the first place). Every day is a new screwup from him. Every...single...day.

So your logic here is LIBERALISM GOOD/CONSERVATISM BAD.

No, my logic is that conservatism as practiced in the US is equivalent to Al Qaeda or the Taliban. It adheres to no sort of Geneva Convention, no rules of conduct. The ENDS ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, even if it takes conspiring with foreign powers to mud-sling. That is what undermines democracy. The rest of your paragraph is simple strawman tactics.

Get our of here dude.

You don't own this forum nor do you have a right to pretend you represent some sort of presumed moral majority here.

Bottom line is I just body-slammed your notion that progressivism

Just like Trump you just arbitrarily declare victory and storm off? Doesn't work that way. Bullying tactics don't win real arguments but I know Trump voters don't seem to realize this, which is why the country is screwed.

 

[Watasha]

Are you really surprised people assume you are a right winger? That paragraph screams right wing indoctrination as well. You sound more like a right winger than most people who vote for Trump. You fear authoritarianism, and yet completely ignore that the actual president is an authoritarian. Like I honestly wonder if you're a Trump supporter and don't realize it.

So you see Donald Trump as someone who respectfully "agrees to disagree" with people and is the face of honesty?

The reason why you get accused of being a Trump supporter is because you spit out tons of right wing conspiracy talking points, have super soft criticism of right wingers, and fear things that right wingers are more guilty of.

Are you going to address any of @PeteJ's points or just try to debate whether or not he's a closet Trumpist?

 

[Born To Slay]

If that's what you mean by "cuts to doctors/hospitals" then sure, but making less money is a good thing if it is trimming the fat and re-allocating resources within the healthcare system. I am willing to bet those making less money will be largely administrative costs and not those involved in true costs of care.

Yeah that's what I meant. And I agree that that's what needs to be done. Can't wait to hear the industries response...

 

[Watasha]

In a functional democracy you acknowledge that there are two sides to any policy decision. Simply ramming things down like a dictator without giving an inch leads to the climate of division we have today.

But it's even worse than that because Trump obstructs justice to protect himself, like his recent move against the US attorney. That kind of behavior got Nixon to resign but now the GOP is so brazen and tribal they just knee-jerk circle the wagons around him. Party first, constitutional law second.

It's one thing to support Trump's policies. I can agree to disagree on that...but it's the tactics that are even more dangerous.

Last I checked, Trump was legitimately impeached and Bolton only reinforced the case against him. So blame Trump, not the Democrats. This whole persecution/martyr complex on Trump's part is just a smokescreen. He gets into so much trouble because of his own actions, not a vendetta against him on the part of the Democrats. For instance, just recently his statement that we should slow COVID testing down, forcing him to retcon himself by calling it a "joke" (like a pandemic is worthy of a joke in the first place). Every day is a new screwup from him. Every...single...day.

No, my logic is that conservatism as practiced in the US is equivalent to Al Qaeda or the Taliban. It adheres to no sort of Geneva Convention, no rules of conduct. The ENDS ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, even if it takes conspiring with foreign powers to mud-sling. That is what undermines democracy. The rest of your paragraph is simple strawman tactics.

You don't own this forum nor do you have a right to pretend you represent some sort of presumed moral majority here.

Just like Trump you just arbitrarily declare victory and storm off? Doesn't work that way. Bullying tactics don't win real arguments but I know Trump voters don't seem to realize this, which is why the country is screwed.

More of the same from you. Left good, right bad. Here's an article on confirmation bias, my gift to you... and again... I proved you wrong on the advancement of the progressive movement in the last 100 years and how compromise and votes from the right allowed it to happen and I hear nothing but crickets from you on that, round and round we go. Hopefully you and I can turn our direct collaborative attention towards a more productive matter such as advancing tinnitus research.

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-confirmation-bias-2795024

 

[Zugzug]

Are you going to address any of @PeteJ's points or just try to debate whether or not he's a closet Trumpist?

Yes. To understand why I bang so hard on the anti-Trump drum is because I believe a lot of the crazy, far left stuff is a backlash to the far right. Trump is the ultimate reminder of white privilege. The guy is white privilege on steroids. Of course, there's going to be built up resentment. I realize the white resentment existed under Obama, but not like this.

With that being said, I still hold leftists to high accountability. I'm not saying every extreme lefty action is a right winger's fault. But I see it as sort of like...what do you expect when you lower the bar that much for a straight, white, male pseudo-Christian?

Really picture a black person acting like Trump. Make it a black woman to make things interesting. Do you really think they could ever gain the levels of support that Trump has acting exactly like him? It's a pathetic joke. Candace Owens is probably the closest person to my description, but even she doesn't have near the legs to become president.

Can you imagine if a black person acted that uncivilized, anti-intellectual, criminal, violent, greedy, sensitive to criticism. Imagine all of the stereotypes that right wingers would surmise.

You don't get to turn your brain off to Trump and then just talk about the reaction. It's so disingenuous.

 

[Watasha]

Yes. To understand why I bang so hard on the anti-Trump drum is because I believe a lot of the crazy, far left stuff is a backlash to the far right. Trump is the ultimate reminder of white privilege. The guy is white privilege on steroids. Of course, there's going to be built up resentment. I realize the white resentment existed under Obama, but not like this.

With that being said, I still hold leftists to high accountability. I'm not saying every extreme lefty action is a right winger's fault. But I see it as sort of like...what do you expect when you lower the bar that much for a straight, white, male pseudo-Christian?

Really picture a black person acting like Trump. Make it a black woman to make things interesting. Do you really think they could ever gain the levels of support that Trump has acting exactly like him? It's a pathetic joke. Candace Owens is probably the closest person to my description, but even she doesn't have near the legs to become president.

Can you imagine if a black person acted that uncivilized, anti-intellectual, criminal, violent, greedy, sensitive to criticism. Imagine all of the stereotypes that right wingers would surmise.

You don't get to turn your brain off to Trump and then just talk about the reaction. It's so disingenuous.

Still not seeing any replies to @PeteJ's post.

 

[Watasha]

Yeah that's what I meant. And I agree that that's what needs to be done. Can't wait to hear the industries response...

Hopefully our pols won't cave to lobbying pressure and will allow inject some competition into the industry. If people realize that they will be rewarded for shopping around, great things could come of that.

 

[PeteJ]

You said I was the same as a bunch of hypocrites when I never even said if I agreed with the individuals you were talking about.

I did? I don't recognize your nick here. I am talking about the other liberals here. You sound upset that you were left out... by all means... if you want...

 

[PeteJ]

Still not seeing any replies to @PeteJ's post.

Don't expect any.

 

[PeteJ]

Are you really surprised people assume you are a right winger? That paragraph screams right wing indoctrination as well. You sound more like a right winger than most people who vote for Trump. You fear authoritarianism, and yet completely ignore that the actual president is an authoritarian. Like I honestly wonder if you're a Trump supporter and don't realize it.


So you see Donald Trump as someone who respectfully "agrees to disagree" with people and is the face of honesty?

The reason why you get accused of being a Trump supporter is because you spit out tons of right wing conspiracy talking points, have super soft criticism of right wingers, and fear things that right wingers are more guilty of.

I don't care what you assume. I already said what I think about Trump. If it's not good enough for you, that's your problem.

 

[PeteJ]

Yes. To understand why I bang so hard on the anti-Trump drum is because I believe a lot of the crazy, far left stuff is a backlash to the far right. Trump is the ultimate reminder of white privilege. The guy is white privilege on steroids. Of course, there's going to be built up resentment. I realize the white resentment existed under Obama, but not like this.

With that being said, I still hold leftists to high accountability. I'm not saying every extreme lefty action is a right winger's fault. But I see it as sort of like...what do you expect when you lower the bar that much for a straight, white, male pseudo-Christian?

Really picture a black person acting like Trump. Make it a black woman to make things interesting. Do you really think they could ever gain the levels of support that Trump has acting exactly like him? It's a pathetic joke. Candace Owens is probably the closest person to my description, but even she doesn't have near the legs to become president.

Can you imagine if a black person acted that uncivilized, anti-intellectual, criminal, violent, greedy, sensitive to criticism. Imagine all of the stereotypes that right wingers would surmise.

You don't get to turn your brain off to Trump and then just talk about the reaction. It's so disingenuous.

You're so full of crap. But, you, FGG and Lane don't respond to people here unless it's another liberal like yourself.

Whenever, someone makes a point you don't like, you ignore it or go on a tangent about something else.

Who cares about what Trump says or does because the narrative will always be the same. The status quo and mainstream portrayal of him is of a fool, a white supremacist and your words, an authoritarian. The minority are "Trumpster", "white supremacists" on Twitter or wherever they respond and some other people who don't have much of a voice. No one cares what they say.

My point is this is all by design. It is an act and you are puppets. It is all for distractions.

Liberals and leftists alike are delusional, brainwashed and don't have any principles anyway. I find it difficult to reason with you types. You choose not to discuss but evade and accuse.

 

[PeteJ]

P.S. I will reiterate, I don't support Trump. I live in Canada and I don't like any of the parties here either. Even before tinnitus. Trump campaigned on "draining the swamp" but to me, from what I learned, he just filled it more like everyone before him.

Just because I might have some opinions "similar to right-wing talking points " doesn't automatically mean I support Trump or your Republicans. That conclusion is simple minded. But, a lot of the political mentality (on the left) is so insane and ridiculous that I suppose assumptions are made that I am pro-Trump - since my perspective doesn't adhere to your leftist views.

Don't make rash assumptions. One, I don't care enough due to tinnitus and two, I have a mind of my own. The BS and propaganda might be obvious to me but I guess it appeals to most people.

 

[Zugzug]

Who cares about what Trump says or does because the narrative will always be the same. The status quo and mainstream portrayal of him is of a fool, a white supremacist and your words, an authoritarian

You are saying the guy has a bad reputation because of the "portrayal of him." Almost every criticism of Trump is a direct quote from him. Are you upset with the media for airing his comment about us doing too much testing? Or the total lies about mail-in voter fraud? You are actually telling the media to just not cover things he says and tweets. He's the president of the United States. It's such a pitiful display of victim blaming. We have fallen to a place where the most powerful person in the world can't be covered. Do you realize you are succumbing to fascist talking points?

I can actually agree with you on certain aspects of the media. Sometimes the media comes up with narratives that are harmful. But covering Trump directly? Come on.

 

[Zugzug]

I'm done with this conversation. It's pointless. Go tinnitus/hyperacusis sufferers!

 

[FGG]

You're so full of crap. But, you, FGG and Lane don't respond to people here unless it's another liberal like yourself.

Whenever, someone makes a point you don't like, you ignore it or go on a tangent about something else.

Who cares about what Trump says or does because the narrative will always be the same. The status quo and mainstream portrayal of him is of a fool, a white supremacist and your words, an authoritarian. The minority are "Trumpster", "white supremacists" on Twitter or wherever they respond and some other people who don't have much of a voice. No one cares what they say.

My point is this is all by design. It is an act and you are puppets. It is all for distractions.

Liberals and leftists alike are delusional, brainwashed and don't have any principles anyway. I find it difficult to reason with you types. You choose not to discuss but evade and accuse.

I'm sure I will regret this but you keep goading me to respond. Why? What is it that you are trying to convey?

 

[Lane]

Does anybody else ever wonder why it's almost always Republicans that say such dumb stuff...

Republican Dr. Winnie Heartstrong thought that George Floyd was still alive after his death at the hands of police. Only to, the following month, insist that he died in 2016 and Deep Fake video technology created a hoax.​

 

[Zugzug]

What is it that you are trying to convey?

I was put in my place. Now I just won't vote. Only idiots vote. The only way to be smart is to distrust both parties equally.

 

[PeteJ]

You are saying the guy has a bad reputation because of the "portrayal of him." Almost every criticism of Trump is a direct quote from him. Are you upset with the media for airing his comment about us doing too much testing? Or the total lies about mail-in voter fraud? You are actually telling the media to just not cover things he says and tweets. He's the president of the United States. It's such a pitiful display of victim blaming. We have fallen to a place where the most powerful person in the world can't be covered. Do you realize you are succumbing to fascist talking points?

I can actually agree with you on certain aspects of the media. Sometimes the media comes up with narratives that are harmful. But covering Trump directly? Come on.

No, I am talking about media propaganda and spin, ignoring certain events that happen and promoting one narrative.

As for Trump, he's like an actor to me. Even when he might do something I agree with, he will later do something else, what I call a 180. I am also saying that liberals are hypocrites when it comes to criticism of him but ignoring other things.

You also implied that 'right wingers" are authoritarian or was it just Trump? If it's the former, that is false. Only liberals and leftists demand bans and censorship. Most corporate social media are blocking right wing opinions or calling people racists, extremists and white supremacists. It's insane. "Right wingers" have no power, no political power. They can't do anything and the entire mainstream media is against them. I know liberals will disagree and yell to me, "What about Fox news?!?" That's funny since it's only one and I disagree. But, it's not worth arguing about. One source means squat so you can have that one.

There's attacks by blacks on white people every day and many people are posting it on social media like Twitter. Even the perpetrators post it. But, the MSM ignores it. Liberals ignore it. It doesn't adhere to the mainstream agenda. That's just one example of many. You ignore them all anyway but I thought it might help if I clarify things with at least one example of the hypocrisy.

Since, you don't seem to accept constructive criticism and think my critiques are unjustified.