Suicidal

I'm increasingly reaching the same place. COVID-19 has nothing to do with it in my case (and hopefully you will feel better when you aren't so isolated from it). I highly doubt you will be sick enough to need a ventilator, please try not to let that add to your worries. The world does look like shit right now, though, doesn't it? At least i can hopefully add comfort by saying your Lenire spike is most likely temporary based on testimonials I have read here. Hang in there.

But i do relate to some of your sentiments and it worries me. There really is no *reason* for me to keep going other than the fact that I want to wait to try regenerative medicine so I can hopefully hear a song again in my lifetime. But with Macrolide ototoxicity that's way more of an unknown than with noise induced (though I'm confident regen medicine will fix my tinnitus).

I missed my chance at life. I missed my chance to have my own family as I married a self-absorbed man with a cruel streak who left when I was no longer able to keep my job (emotionally first and then physically). I know I have talked about this before but he literally disappeared for 3 days when I lost my hearing more or less to punish me for pleading with him to change his drinking plans with his sister and then, eventually, he wouldn't even look at me or sit next to me and would refuse to turn down music or the TV when I had my initial hyperacusis and then filmed me hyperventilating from crying so hard to show people what a "child" I had become. I even heard him once on the phone laughing to his sister about how i probably belonged in an insane asylum. And since I had both hearing and visual symptoms he accused me of lying and/or just being mentally ill because that's just too improbable apparently. I don't think you can ever recover from loving someone and trusting them with all your heart and then having them be so cruel. I will carry those scars for whatever length of life I have. I just can't "unsee" how this world can be anymore and maybe that's the crux of my problem.

I'm 42 now. If I heal from regenerative medicine in a few years, i will still have to start completely over.

I have decimated my retirement account. And in addition to Erik leaving, my father (who would have been so wonderful and supportive right now like he was when I had Lyme 15 years ago) passed away a decade ago. My mother is completely impatient with me and has even had her friend (who is local to me) stop to take some of her heirlooms back since I wasn't going to have grandkids.

Only two of my long time friends have tried to really relate to the new, sadder me but they have small children and have their own lives. I realize there are some people would miss me if I was gone but I think many more would be glad i was suffering anymore. They really don't know what to say to me anymore and I don't blame them.

I read once that a lot of Holocaust victims killed themselves *after* they were freed. They were the ones who lost their whole families and didn't know how to start over.

I feel that. I don't/wouldn't know how to start over. I'm too traumatized at this point. And I also have substantial neck arthritis that will need invasive surgery within the next 5-10 years so i am potentially facing serious additional health problems.

Really, the only thing that could make me see the beauty in life again is music. And that's because more than my ears have been damaged, it feels like who I am is lost forever.

The problem is that macrolide ototoxicity is unique in that in addition to hair cells, it also damages certain ion channels in the auditory brainstem (not the same ones Dr. Thanos is working on) so music might be the thing I have to live without but it's also the thing I can't live without anymore.

I'm not immediately suicidal but I can't help but think often that this would be a good place to get off this ride. This feeling will hopefully pass but it's real and i can't pretend it's not here and maybe that's why we all come here to talk about it.
My god FGG.

Your pain - your story - your wretched husband - the impatience of your (so called) mother.
So hard for me to even read and contemplate.
It is so important for us to talk to each other and listen to each other on here.
We are literally the only people that 'Know.'
If only it were possible to love each other better, to heal the scars caused by the ultra callous and hateful treatment of 'loved ones?'
I am not a 'believer' but I do believe in the love and kindness of 'good' people.
Please try to absorb something from the knowledge that you are recognised, your pain is recognised, that you are held in the thoughts of loving people.

Thinking of you so much right now,
love
Dave x
Jazzer
 
Suffering is suffering, and people deserve to be believed. This forum has to be a godsend for people with abusive family members. Hell, it's a godsend for me just for the nuances of this problem that I understand that my family and wife don't.
'People deserve to be believed.'

Family members having sufficient respect for us to believe in the extent of our suffering, is absolutely crucial to the possibility of us maintaining honest relationships.

This - is - vital.
 
I'm sorry to see new people joining this thread, and old friends still stuck here. @FGG , I was familiar with part of your story, you are a star really. I really hope you can get a second chance in life and go back to hear music. Regenerative medicine should help us, the problem is getting there. @hans799 I really hope the spike settles. Hopefully COVID-19 will not impact you directly, although it is making a lot of us sad and more depressed with the isolation and disruption on other conditions. It killed Len ire for me after nine months of waiting. I also think I had COVID-19, I had high fever and a lot of flu symptoms for two weeks, but now it's gone, I haven't even been seen by a doctor, not even by phone, I only entered my symptoms online as the UK system is stretched a lot and they advise you via web. To this day I don't know whether it was the virus or a normal flu, the NHS web page says it might have been the virus, but I haven't been tested. However my real problem is always tinnitus that keeps slowly worsening. It is maddening, I am totally debilitated now, I need to hold on for my two kids but it's becoming increasingly hard to do anything, even teach them some basic homework. My wife basically thinks that it's all in my head and I'm totally alone with this, trying to keep my kids together but as soon as this COVID-19 will end I fear my wife will want to split up. I am in no condition to face a separation now, I hope it does not come to this. I have been having dark thoughts for a while now but this whole situation is making them worse too and most days all I can think of is finding a way out. But I can't do anything due to the kids, only suffer unbearably. Can't even go to the ER as COVID-19 is the real emergency now and they could do nothing for me anyway except locking me in a psychiatric ward, with disastrous consequences like poly-drugging and distress. This horrible condition leaves you so alone that you don't even know where you can turn up for help in case it becomes unbearable. Sorry I am not writing more in the forum these days, I'm really KO and I am struggling and suffering too much.
 
My wife basically thinks that it's all in my head and I'm totally alone with this,
Devastating!

Doesn't she know you well enough to respect your integrity - your patent honesty?
Those of us with this plague deserve to be held in the arms of our loved ones.
I weep for you.
I weep for all of us.
 
Devastating!

Doesn't she know you well enough to respect your integrity - your patent honesty?
Those of us with this plague deserve to be held in the arms of our loved ones.
I weep for you.
I weep for all of us.
The people who claim that it is all "inside our heads" got only part of it right.
Yes, tinnitus is hiding inside of our heads.
But the sound we hear is as real as the keyboard you and I are typing this on.

This is yet another reason why hidden conditions are by far the worst out of the bunch.
The constant need of having to explain, because nobody believes us.
 
Your wife might think it's all in your head but Tinnitus Talk members know your suffering is real. I am so sorry that you do not have your wife's support during this difficult time.

Your distress is real, but you are NOT ALONE, we are all here for you, so don't ever forget that :huganimation::huganimation:
 
I am disturbed by the school of thought that states behavioral modification and pills that make me docile are all I need. They put psychology above physical health. They only care about modifying human behavior, they were all dozing off in biology class, but they took B.F Skinner's bullshit literally.

Modern medicine is not about reversing biological damage, it's about modifying human behavior. That's the ultimate goal, the behaviorist held back biomedical sciences decades!
 
I don't get why we exist to suffer, the elite psychologists pull all the strings. They are the ones applying for (and getting) dozens of NIH grants so they can shove more CBT, ACT, TRT down our throats. People with tinnitus, chronic pain or whatever don't get to decide where the next NIH grant goes. Patients can't raise awareness for their own disease.
 
Mass suicide of tinnitus patients in Times Square would probably get some attention or would it all be labeled as depression?
 
Mass suicide of tinnitus patients in Times Square would probably get some attention or would it all be labeled as depression?
They don't raise awareness to begin with. They obey the psychologists.
 
I consider it evil to blame depression and anxiety and mental illness on problems associated with confirmed physical abnormalities and bodily damage.
 
@PeteJ How did the convorsation go when you asked your Dr. for a benzo? Were you brutally honest about your situation?

I'm in Canada as well and was fully expecting my Dr. to laugh in my face, but she was surprisingly supportive. I told her that I'd done some research and found others have had success with clonazepam taking the edge off of their T. She made the risks clear (dependency etc) and wrote me a script for 0.5mg. I'm to follow up with her at the end of the month.

I've been taking 25mg amitriptyline, which helps sleep, but has little to no effect on my T. Going to switch over to the clonazepam tonight and see how it goes.
My Dr. refused to prescribe a benzo. Period.
 
My Dr. refused to prescribe a benzo. Period.
At my onset I managed to get my doctor to prescribe benzos for a couple of months.
Then I read somewhere a warning that benzos can increase Tinnitus volume - so I stopped dead.
I've never taken them since - and would not consider them again.
 
Remember ACT, CBT and TRT for nerve pain and tinnitus is considered medical advice, and if we discourage new comers from seeking out help, we are the villains. We cannot disagree with the medical authority or that would make us outlaws.

Telling someone with nerve pain not to take an ACT course is like telling someone with cancer not to take chemotherapy, we are putting peoples lives in danger by discouraging psychological help. This whole forum of vicious lay people should be shutdown for challenging the elite psychologist.
 
I am disturbed living inside a damaged biological vessel, I don't know how normies manage to exist inside a broke biological vessel that is only destined to get worse. I feel like a consciousness inside a meatsuit that is 100% shot.

This is probably an illusion, because even if panspychism is true that won't mean reincarnation is real, my death is probably a ticket to oblivion. Fuck it!


Panpsychism implies I'll go from 100% conscious to 00.0000000000001% conscious. So technically I can't die. lol.
 
Whenever you want. Why should there be a time element? Am I supposed to suffer for a few months or a few years? Why should it be a certain time frame?
It was an open question.
There are quite a few stories on here of people who were suicidal for some time, sometimes years, and then they found a way to deal with their tinnitus and say they are glad they didn't.
So yes, after how much time can one be certain that it's not going to get better?
Even with euthanasia, you're in it for the long run since you have to prove you've exhausted treatment options and are suffering unbearably with no end in sight.
 
At my onset I managed to get my doctor to prescribe benzos for a couple of months.
Then I read somewhere a warning that benzos can increase Tinnitus volume - so I stopped dead.
I've never taken them since - and would not consider them again.
Did you feel they helped?
 
All Medicine is Palliative Medicine.

That's the consequence of living in a world where psychologists get all the NIH grants. How is a disease going to have a treatment if the only people getting the grants are psychologists and not biomedical researchers? The logic is bad!
 
My wife basically thinks that it's all in my head and I'm totally alone with this, trying to keep my kids together but as soon as this COVID-19 will end I fear my wife will want to split up.
I am so sorry. Your will power is impressive. Keep fighting.
 
I am in the 0.01% of young people who have EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY OF LIVES.

B.F Skinner's behavioral modifcation doctrine ought to discipline me back into the work force and quit feelign sorry for myself. BF Skinner said "consciousness is just an illusion", "biology technology isn't important" and behavioral studies is the most important of all sciences.

The father of modern pyschology/behaviorism promised utopia and look where it got us.

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/519485/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/519491/
 
Their hypothesis either sinks or swims rather the patient has resilience.

If you are non-resilient, the entire behavioral modification model falls apart.
 
The goal is to be as thought provoking as possible towards the people who believe in radical behaviorism. They are the reason why we are stuck with TRT, CBT ACT ad nasseum. They had bad ideas and they view themselves as authority.


You can't force a defective biological puppet in severe pain and despair to continue existing.
 

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